Debunking Keffals & Vaush 'Out Of Context' Allegations ONCE AND FOR ALL...

Put an uncomfortable amount of thought into the defense of possession

Consuming CP victimizes while I can use my phone at it does not inherently victimize anyone so yes the production can be but CP causes harm and only use is harm- the I’m so smart people like this are just so dumb!!

Can we admit that a lot of Japanese media heavily fetishizes Japanese schoolgirls and it is creepy.

like a lot of the overall points vaush makes about like act and rule utilitarianism and how exploitative capitalism is i agree with but like why does he have to use arguments about cp 😭😭😭??? like why are you framing capitalism is really exploitative as “child porn should be legal in capitalist societies” or “sometimes singular actions can be good but that does not mean that most of the time those actions are good” as “sometimes child adult sexual relationships are healthy but not most of the time”? like there’s so many more examples one could use that would work much better but he decides to like kind of defend pedophilia for the sake of the argument. it’s like those “devils advocate” kids in school it’s just all sort of🤨🤨🤨

Keffals is only clinging to Vaush bc Vaush pretty much started her online career for her.

I love how Irish creators are alcoholics or zophilics, also they support killalestina 😂

This man is beyond dangerous and disgusting!

Time to talk about Kris Tyson's fangirling over Shadman. Tyson was in his twenties when he made those tweets.

Beyond being disgusting, Keffals is so unlikable, monotone, boring, and generally repellent. All the bad adjectives.

No context matters. 18 U.S.C. §2252 and §2252A have no mens rea.

I mean the comments Ethan clipped are pretty clearly out of context, but Vaush still had cp on his computer don’t changed nothing. I guess that’s hard to make drama videos about so we’re all going to be subjected to a million streams analyzing if Vaush thinks cp should be legal or child labor should be illegal instead of the real issues which is that he has cp on his computer

"I'm not a pedo! I thought they were goblins!" is the most batshit fucking absurd defense I have EVER heard in my ENTIRE FUCKING LIFE

Dude, what normal person has an "out of context" pedo cloud floating over their head? Lol

I think Alex Rosen needs to pay a visit to Vaush to discuss the “internet bullshit”.

It’s kinda confusing because he’s saying it’s possible for it to be good for both parties, but he actually believes that it’s unethical no matter what because he’s a rule utilitarian. Isn’t that a hypocritical statement within itself? Cuz if he thinks it’s unethical no matter what why would he even say that good can come from both parties? This is a Socrates ass argument

When I say it’s confusing I mean he’s intentionally making it confusing so that he can seem like the smartest person in the room while also saying some pederastic relationships are okay because he’s a pedophile

You literally did clip them out of context. That's ireffurable fact any one can go check. There is NO excuse for that behaviour. None. Even if V turned out to be a real piece of sh1t, that just makes TWO dishonest pieces of shit, manipulating people like that.... Shame on you H3. You lost a viewer here for your bad faith tactics, not because you attacked vaush.

it took a few years, but now H3 is on its redemption arc

He could've used literally any other example to explain the difference between two utilitarians. The fact that he came to p**ophilic sex as his analogy is just terrible, it just shows how often it's on his mind.

“I swear officer, I thought she was a goblin!”

Utilitarianism is one giant joke

After watching Vaush's context video and analysing every clip I do admit the loli(?) part is very fishy, I'm not sure what to believe on that one. However I am also disappointed in h3 for just fully ignoring any context that really paints a different picture than what they're saying. Like in some of those clips he's quite literally saying the opposite of what the out of context clips are showing. It just feels a bit like a keemstar pedo witchhunt to me without actual evidence and obviously not really out for finding the truth unless its pointing towards him being a pedo. Vaush could be a pedo but I don't understand how they are this sure, like he could also easily not be. By all metrics he verbally seems to be against any kind of sexualizing minors at least and is spreading an entirely different message than what I've been told by h3 podcast in the last week or so.

> Clips statements out of context
> Gets called out
> Says they'll show the context
> Clips the context out of context

Ethan W

What a disgusting mischaracterization of Vaush and Keffals. You listen attentively to the incriminating parts of the clips and then talk over the explanations dismissively. Then you have the gall to pretend like you were neutral in your analysis and that you showed the full context. Shame on you

Keffals jumped on the sinking ship.

A “To Be Sorted” folder implies he has a sorted folder of Horse cox and Lolicon

Why are you calling Lucas-dude a she? Keffals is a man named Lucas.

Ethan and Hila and crew, please consider the more-updated abbreviation CSAM (child s**ual abuse material) instead of Cee Pee because it places the necessary emphasis on the ab*se and doesn’t use the word 🌽 which is a word used to describe consensually made materials! 🫶🏻

I love how you still intentionally clip the full context. On every single clip. You’ve lost my subcription after 8 years. I remember when you were just a podcast, and covered things honestly.

is keffals making this to troll for attention??????? this is awful.

Lets face something really really important here. Besides Ethan trying to mimic Keemstars content style... And the fact that Mrs. H3 got rich on the back of child slavery... Dan is clearly the real bloodthirsty fiend here, who was salivating for years to get Ethan to get full DramaAlert on Vaush. Dan, is so incredibly obsessed. Just look at his eyes. Look at his eyes. Look at his face. Dan, is not an actual human anymore, he is a machine, a machine dedicated to suck Vaush dry, and turn his husk into a fine dust, and smoke it. Dan... is clearly a man of great dedication to his immense, irrational hatred.

Also lets face another important fact, they won't be watching Vaush's video that addresses all these accusations without the desire to turn it into dramaalert bullshit.

Addendum:
They are zionists... which should tell you everything about their character right away.

The funny thing is Ethan and keffels are both just as annoying for the same exact reasons lol they're the same person basically

bro the way he speaks sounds like "well rules are rules so we follow them, obviously" when talking about KIDS having inappropriate relationships with ADULTS. He says that could affect SOCIETY negatively what about the fact that it's an ethical and moral responsibility as an adult to protect children from harm like that???? There is no reason you should even dance around these ideas unless you're literally a creep. He sounds like "we don't do it because it's illegal" not because IT'S ONE OF THE MOST WRONG THINGS in the world??? Scary. Sincerely, a trans person who would probably be called a gr00mer by ppl like this oml

the difference is that CP can not possibly exist without the harm done, the whole purpose of it is the harm in itself and is only consumed by people enjoying the harm it does.
Owning any other item that might is produced unethically is just not the same thing, has not the same purpose and does not say the same about the psyche of the person purchasing the item.

This is fanservice so Hassan’s community lambasted you for your wife being an idf killer

it means Vaush is a burn it all down neo marxist, A malevolent ideology that has one very special provision at its core All malevolence, cruelty ,degeneracy, and demoralisation are acceptable in the diminishment of Christianity,The family structure and the concept of the Nation State Yes that includes defiling body and mind the children of their perceived enemies... The far left are vile and demonic in intention.

How many Vaush simps would defend with "that's out of context"-arguments if DeKlein went on the attack against someone they didn't like?

Pathetic ethan

H3h3 is short for bad faith

Like I get what he's saying but it still doesn't negate the fact he has Loli 🤷‍♀️

Vaush subreddit are hard coping over the fact that he's getting dragged by everyone. It's clear that many of them need to be on some sort of Watch List.

“he’s trying to sound so smart while the point he’s making is so dumb” bingooo

Dan what’s wrong with casually rping and fucking the mindflayer??? It’s not me it’s my character honest!!

You’d choose to pretend u understood his argument better than he did rather than engage.. but u didn’t… U clearly weren’t built for this level of debate… go back to doing leftovers before defamation lawsuits leave u eating leftovers….😂

or even better, go back to doing ACTUAL CONTENT… we miss those fire ass skit videos. We miss those fire ass video essays.. now you’re like a news/drama/pop culture podcast that likes to cosplay as a debate space.. If you’re gonna debate things online, don’t be mad if u slip up and get dragged for being bad faith or incorrect… this is what comes with the debate space. We hold you accountable bc the topics are too serious for us not to…

Do better ethan we saw how u refused to acknowledge what vaush REALLY said.. they are in the same category in a broad sense but they are not the same thing and he never said they were…. You just straw manned his argument. I hate to do this but he was correct. They are both amoral actions and I don’t see how anyone would disagree with that. They are both slave labor and any products purchased under that system should be condemned. Just say you agree with that instead of acting in bad faith and trying to pretend that you have some kind of meta analysis that clears your name from appearing to act in bad faith..… and then repeating the same process with anyone who criticises you for it…

In male gay communities I’ve heard of plenty of gay men whose first sexual encounter was with a mature adult man while they themselves were teens.
There are plenty of examples of teens who are still legally kids having sex with adults.
When you argue with trad people who want to lower age of consent, they will bring up these cases where it wasn’t harmful to the teen.
You need to be able to say no it’s still bad.
You need to remember vaush debates conservatives he has to think about these things and debate Christian’s who want to marry 15 year olds.

Pretty fucking weak to call defenders of Vaush as ped*s themselves. Some people are just stupid. Not ped*s. Unless you actually think they are stupid enough to actively defend CP because they have it themselves? Smarten up.