Hereditary Watch Party and Occult Analysis w/ Aaron Leitch & Marco Visconti

All really interesting. Thanks for doing this. And the bit from Aaron about people saying any spirit is evil reminded me of when I was young and my mother tried to expell a ghost from our house and I felt so sad and offended by it. To me it seemed like it was something that had probably lived in the area longer than we had and we might want to not prejudice it

So what is the spiritual symbology of decapitation in Thelema / Western Tradition? I have my ideas but want further explanation

Cool vid esoterica, hi guys and hi to all the fans etc ❤😊 happy Halloween 👻🎃😊

In regard to "The Shining." It's pretty interesting to read about how disappointed Stephen King was in the movie and the reasons why. Particularly the vast deviation from the book which I really need to read. I believe in the book there is no question, it is the spirits that are driving this guy insane due to weak character, while ironically Wendy and the kid are the pillars of strength that the spirits can not penetrate and corrupt.

It would be wonderful to have a series on The Seals of Solomon. If only to hopefully get answers to some uncomfortable questions I’ve been carrying around for years.

I finally got round to watching the movie with you! Learned a lot so thank you very much, gents. 🥰

Aaron, in the end, you stated, "She was just on her damn own with these forces." But that speaks to how well the writing was. She is on her own; this is a Hereditary fate. God can't/doesn't "fix" or help with hereditary ailments. If you're parents pass on some genetic mutation, you have to deal with it on your own. It's your burden, and that's how it played out for Ellen's family.

🐉🖤 this was awesome. I’m definitely gonna check out hereditary.💯 I like your movie idea at the end🥰 it would be awesome🐉🕷🐉🏴‍☠️🐉🎩🤌🏼

Love your video series. My profession is engineering so I don’t have the same time to invest in these topics that I find so interesting. It’s fantastic that you have a channel breaking these topics down. I bought a Thoth shirt from your shop. 😊

I think the Ari Aster movie we are owed is a John dee biopic that treats alchemy/magic seriously and frames it as what it was (both practical science and also the state of the art spy craft of the day). Also I feel like he’s good enough with his characters and writing to make the wife-swapping dynamics really uncomfortable and hilarious. Kinda how midsommar leaned into the relationship stuff. David Eggers arguably accomplished this with The Northman, but I want that for the early modern era in Europe.

I think what filled me with horror and a sense of doom as the film went on, from the miniature art in the beginning to watching each character’s demise or transformation- they had no say, they were pawns in a long game. They were figures in someone else’s plan. Their lives were spoken for by the matriarch of the family. But at the same time, the movie makes you go back and forth in your sympathy for the characters in the movie.

I am feeling drawn back to the Goetic spirits, I haven't recently had much from the "other side" and that could be part of it. Still, its good to hear other persepectives but also scholarly ones. Especially for people like me who only dabbled here. I had a brief interaction with King Paimon and I knew the movie had made him out to be worse than he truly is. However, you must respect these beings. He is not all bad and very savvy about PR ;)

super interesting conversation, as to be expected! I will say that the point that Aaron and Marco make about viewing a person's place in life as validation for their spiritual path is ill considered. plenty of horrible people with terrible beliefs live long and happy lives at the expense of others.

Dr. Sledge mentioned how the characters were locked in their fate. Yes, and everything they do to fight against their fate only brings it to fruition. I think exploring the futility of the characters' actions is what makes Hereditary such a scary film. We see that trope over and over, from Oedipus to The Wicker Man, and yet I think Hereditary is the scariest and saddest example that I've ever seen.

What a great conversation! Such a nice listen while I took down my Halloween decorations.

The Ninth Gate next? 🤞

Only problem I really have with ceremonial magicians is how similar they sound to fundamentalist christians sometimes. Firm statements about how demons act, as if they are wild animals you can capture on film.

Great video though, I do like hearing you guy's perspective even if I don't think anyone KNOWS what's going on.

EDIT--I spoke too soon. You guys did mention that you're talking about your experiences, and the actual historical information.

I think horror movies are always tangentially interested in occultism, but this was a time where there were a cluster of extremely well made arthouse/occult horror movies, instead of the regular run of the mill film. What's specifically interesting to me about this era of movies, is that this era of arthouse horror film tended to all finish on a held note of euphoric grotesquerie. I'm thinking specifically of Goodnight Mommy, The Witch, Hereditary, Midsommar, Annihilation, and A Dark Song (I'm sure there were probably a few others). Other than Eyes Without a Face, I sincerely struggle to think of a horror film that culminated like these movies did, and I wonder if there has any comparison/analysis of that?

I am freaking out over the mystery science theatre reference. Seriously, this whole commentary with the three of you was such gold that I’m hoping it becomes a regular series on your channel. Commentary on any esoteric media. So fun and so informative.

Bought some merch like a good Esotericia girl 😂

This video came out at the perfect time for me <3 thank you guys!!!

the climax of this movie is one of the most insane sequences in any horror film. god, I wanna watch it again right now.

At first it was kind of annoying that everything about the occult in films is scary but I think it’s a good barrier mental barrier for people to have. It reminds me of the Bible verse “The fear of the lord is the beginning of wisdom..”

This was probably the best 2-and-a-half-hours I've spent. THANK YOU for this content!

Notice how the arrival of Paimon at the end of the movie is heralded by tinkling bells? Very much intentional from the director. 😊

For me, Horror as a genre is always fundamentally about grief and regret and sadness, more than jump-scares or gore or even fear.

Loved your guys' discussion. I'm not sure if having the Celestial or centering a Practitioner would have the same... themes and emotions that Aster returns to with each of his movies.

I think that's part of why his horror is so affecting. He starts from a strong but inexpressible emotion & sorta builds outba metaphor from there.

A practitioner centered piece would be something like... catching a glimpse of The Divine from someone else. & toiling away, doing everything prescribed, shunning all worldly things all chances at some other meaning, & to yet one's calls to the heaven remain unanswered.
The knowledge that the Sublime is REAL & the dread despair that it wants nothing to do with one.

Thanks for this. Many interesting insights

Keep up the good work

You know, at its heart Hereditary is a movie about family.

hell yea brother

you guys should do this for the film of The Witch

Head over to Joe Girard's work if you appreciate an analysis of The Shining. It might be one of the most through I've seen. I've gone over it 15 times, at least.

Awesome episode ⚡️🤘🏻

Oh man! 😅 so this don’t pick up til close to the end, but it’s very unnerving toward the end 👀 this is like a fundamentalist view toward demons though 😅

It's starts with multiperspectivalism.

Watching this is how I'm spending my Halloween (or, after the kids go to bed, Samhain).

Hereditary is my favorite film of all time. It’s actually the reason I started watching this channel. I was brushing up on my demonology. 😅

What a great way to spend a Halloween evening!

Always an absolute pleasure to hear commentary from all of you.
JSK—-> his work was also monumental to my practice of Goetia

Great talk,i love your work. Its nice to see you in a more spontaneous philosophical chat with like minded people.

Really intersesting stuff. Would be cool if you did the korean movie " wailing" it deals with korean shamanism

Guilt in the human psyche has been manipulated by questionable authorities when a person is at their weakest point, which is as demonic as it gets for human behavior.

"been threatening to do this for a while"
xD

Obituaries? You mean the Irish sports pages?