Top 9 Worst Guns and Weapons from Fallout 4's Survival Mode (Including DLC) #PumaCounts

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About hunting rifle: I installed a couple of mods that change the skin, damage of .50 Cal and adds better range to rifleman perk (like gunslinger perk).

With base damage perks, it can deal 250 damage per shot, not being better than the Gaus rifle with 500 damage per shot but lighter and with common ammo after lvl 28. I love it.

Automatic weapons in general are just not optimal for survival mode. Bethesda's "balancing" makes it so you need more ammo to deal equivalent damage to their non-automatic counterparts, and by their very nature you will be eating through more ammo inherently, meaning you have to carry a lot more ammunition with you than if you stuck with non-automatic weapons.

The big exception to this is Aeternus, since even though you need a 4 lb fusion core for it, having that single fusion core gives it unlimited ammo.

The best way to get by with over encumbrance in this game. Is to heavily invest in the Strong Back perk and action point related perks. You trade the ability to sprint for the ability to carry as much inventory items as you please.

Not so fun fact. The lever action reload is not a bug, this game just has no scripted reloads. Bullets are not counted. Every single gun has 1 reload animation, nothing more. Note that this is easiest to understand if you don’t know guns when you look at the revolvers. You can fire 1 bullet, but your character will load all 6. For magazine fed guns, there is no tactical reload. No matter how much ammunition you have left, no matter if you have a bullet in the chamber or not, your character will cycle the action. If you don’t know what that means, refer back to first part of this comment, it’s all you need to know.

I"ve actually found a legendary neverending lever action rifle before. that pretty much solved the reload issue. ended up setting it up as a sniper that could better face multiple enemies without the reload issue.

Why wouldn’t they have a .50 cal Sniper rifle option

when I used the submachine gun I mowed through 2,000 bullets in 5 minutes and when I sold the loot from the battle and to repurchase ammo it lost about %25 more

Ammo doesn’t want anything in the game

Fallout New Vegas+Anti Materiel Rifle+V.A.T.S+Incendiary .50 rounds= gave .50 rounds Justice

The lever action rifle still having the bugged reload after all this time is a fucking disgrace

They ruined fallout. Having bad weapons is ok, but honestly there are so many USELESS weapons and I find it hard to turn to anything other than Overseers Guardian. I hate that legendary effect.

The .308 pipe rifle with a good legendary effect is great because you can max out the modifications with very few skills, the ammo is abundant and the weapon and ammo are very lightweight.

Spray N Pray has saved my ass so many times in Survival. The Ammo is abundant too, so dont know why youre harping on it.

I’m using the pool cue/rolling pin combo because I’m a masochist

All these years later I don't play survival, too much inventory and resource management for me. But ammo weight seems to me to be the biggest change compared to a very hard playthrough- I routinely have thousands of each of my favourite ammo and make runs to my water farms specifically to trade in for more ammo from every available vendor. And my standard loadout is an explosive shotgun (short to mid range-never point blank), a double shot lever action rifle full specced to a sniper build (long range), the deliverer (stealth and when I wanna top up my crits) and a double shot auto hand made rifle (spray anything that moves).

You know the problem here is you really only talk about the damage and ammo weight. There’s more to it. Is the SMG nearly as bad as you say? No. Here’s why. Much higher magazine capacity, better recoil control, better iron sights, more accurate in full auto fire, and easier to keep on target in full auto fire. I’ll take my .45 SMG over a pipe gun thank you very much, I like to actually hit what I’m aiming at

Honestly, the lever action rifle's reload never bothered me. Just think of it like a mag change, they are set to a time, the same way that changing a mag is. I only ever use the Old Reliable version though, because it doubles your potential damage per pound, changing it with my perks from about 110 to 220, so it's amazing for mid or even long range, especially with a short scope.
The handmade rifle, i always find that i end up missing more for some reason. The faster the fire rate, the more likely i'll just spam and miss cuz i suck.
I tend to stick with 2 rifles and a pistol,
The deliverer, the handmade rifle, and Old Reliable.
The deliverer for short range spamming, the handmade as a bread and butter, and Old Reliable for one shot damage, like if i need to kill a stronger enemy and i'd die if they hit me.

I did oneshot Grun, in the vim factory, with a non-stealth headshot with Old Reliable.

me who has Strong Back 4 and Action Boy 3 on Survival difficulty.

As you can see I'm still running.

Yea 7 years later the lever action rifle is STILL broken like smh.

This motherfucker be out here saying thay one pound cannon balls and NUKES weigh too much. Smfh.

I mean its a cannonball, I dont expect them to be light

Any weapon can be changed to .38 with the proper perks and a spare combat rifle to switch the ammo to a .38 receiver just use the weapon mod swap glitch and now ammo weight is irrelevant

Any and all unarmed, any and all melee, any and all pipe weapon, all automatics and shotguns unless with OP Legendary effect. At the beginning of the game you'll be sticking to your 10mm until you get your first hunting rifle and from that point for the most part you'll be sticking to stealth and long ranged sniper rifles + semi automatic rifles with occasional grenade or mininuke on sturdier enemies.

I disagree with nearly every single choice on this list. I've been watching a few of your videos... and honestly I think it's just your play style but I don't agree almost at all with any of your lists.

But hey, keep racking in views.
Also, I play with the ultra hard mod on my f4 and still use some of these "worst" survival weapons on my heavy gunner. I love the idea that anything in the game can be the best if you... ya kno, like to play with it.

Since when ammo does weight any weight?

Just an FYI for recent viewers, the lever action reload isn't actually bugged, all the guns in Fallout 4 have one reload animation, so like how a revolver will still have 6 new bullets put in with each reload, the same is true with the lever action. The confusion stems from the game just replacing the old ammo count with the new count after the reload, unlike say NV where the ammo count when up in increments during the reload and could be canceled mid reload.

.50 cal is actualy a heavy hitter... with a heavy stocked sniper rifle that is... silenced and deadly...

its funny how you mentioned all 9 2handed types of weapons as worst... dude, what weapons are good for survival? revolvers?

Video game logic is hilarious in the case of FO4. IRL weapon damage is dependent primarily on ammunition used and secondarily on barrel length. The SMG has the same barrel length as a radium rifle, though the damage is 1/3 of the latter. Also in FO4 .50 caliber does like 15-20% more damage than .308 when in reality it's nearly 5x as much muzzle energy. FO-NV did weapons much better in that regard.

I like how 50. Cal is supposed to be used to pierce armored military trucks yet it's so bad in fallout bruh

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I find the lever action to be a great sniper so it's great for those types of players

Him: Combat Shotgun is underwhelming compared to other guns

Also him: proceeds to massacre all the deathclaws

Meh. In Survival you use what ever you can get your hands on. It survival.

Your shot gun tactics are lacking. They're good go close quarter combat. You only need to carry 20 - 30 rounds to clear out a building. If you can't carry the ammo it's time to start lifting brah.

"A shot from the fatman is usually a hitkill in survival mode"
Mirelurk tanks 2 mini-nukes -Nope!
hahahah jk xd

Every time someone gives me a "trigger warning" I feel like I've just been demeaned. As empowered adults we do not need to be treated as children. And treating an adult like a child is, simply put, condescending. Please forgive my rant!

Pray and spray is the god weapon in the game

Another completely bullshit video. Hunting rifle is arguably one of the best weapons in the game and its indisputably the best sniping rifle in the game when it comes to efficiency - with proper build and use it is capable to one-hit-kill absolutely everything in game, including ancient behemots. But if you are using it like a completely braindead monkey, charging into enemy and shoting in melee range without even aiming...

Oh lol I just got a random explosive 45 smg, not the spray and pray

"The lever action rifle has a reloading glitch"

Me chilling with my legendary lever action with unlimited ammo

I strongly disagree that the Missile Launcher is a bad weapon. I spent over 72 hours with it on my Brotherhood character, it saved my life more times than I can count. Simple answer is: Just don't carry too many missiles, use them sparingly. I know this is an old video, but wanted to express this. Also, four missiles fired before reload makes the damage output ridiculous.

"Not to compliment Bethesda or anything" what

If the submachine gun had the ability to modify it with a .38 calibre receiver it would be a lot better because it would basically be a cooler looking pipe rifle with a higher magazine size

In resume:Use pistols and bladed//unarmed weapons

I respect the early game Submaschine Gun. Because i melted Skinny Malone with it with only 1 HP left. Without it i would have died...

Imagine designing a smog off of arguably the most iconic smg irl, the Thompson, with it shooting .45 ACP, which is one of the hardest hitting pistol calibers, and you make it deal as much damage as a .38 caliber, handmade piece of shit pipe weapon.

For that reason alone I miss Fallout New Vegas. (I think NV is a better game than 4 for many other reasons but that’s still one of them)

How on earth was the institute laser rifle not on this list

Love my explosive combat shotgun, you can even snipe with it lol