Why the big car companies are losing China | Business Beyond

If you boy Chinese made Goods you support slave labor !!!

Someday my comment will also get viral 😢

China burns more coal than the rest of world combined!

Good! Crazy how much stealers are asking for car prices in the States.

HA HA! MORE SANCTIONS AGAINST RUSSIA AND GOODBYE EU ECONOMY.

I was in Guangzhou, China last week, all taxis car is EV, unbelievable.

This applies to “work smarter not harder” Germany can make complicated mechanical parts but China they can’t! So rather than trying to build an engine they just started making batteries 😂 ! And Germany aren’t going to simply give up on their mechanical innovation. They are too old fashioned for that and soon this might lead to the end is many brands

If Germany did not impruve the software industry, they would lose the car industry to China and Usa.

Very insightful. Thank you for sharing

This is a bit oversold drama, isn't it? Please show me one developed and well-regulated market, where Chinese automakers are crushing the competitors as much as they do at home. One thing is to be successful at home under a watchful eye and protection of the "big brother", but to compete fair and square based solely on value and quality abroad is a completely different game. I do not deny the rise of Chinese industry, but I am far more impressed with global advances of the the Korean giant Hyundai/Kia.

ps. China wants local China brands mostly and no imports but lots of exports.

This guy is the most handsome DW correspondant. He could present a 45 minute piece on the growth patterns of donkey hair and I would be totally engrossed.

The main reason is not about VW decisions. VW and Tesla spent billions of dollars to develop everything. But China just steal and copies it, saving lots of time on developing something, that's why they could do much cheaper

God made the world, the rest was made in China

Source China Observer: According to mainland Chinese media reports on October 9th, Weltmeister Automobile Technology Group Co., Ltd., once a sensation in the automotive world, is on the brink of bankruptcy.
Since October 11th, numerous owners of Weltmeister's new energy vehicles took to social media platforms, reporting issues with the car’s official systems - “Weltmeister Zhixing” and the "Xiao Wei Companion" Bluetooth key, as well as remote control functions, noting they were malfunctioning. The Weltmeister car mobile APP displayed "network abnormality," hinting that the backend service might have stopped. Additionally, the official Weltmeister car service hotline went unanswered, and their website experienced loading issues.
With the rise of EVs, a new challenge has emerged. As connected services become widespread, these key selling features turn into mere decorations when the vehicle companies face bankruptcy or leave the market. Many netizens realized that the issue isn't just about getting the car fixed after an EV company's collapse; it's that the car might not function at all. This is the immediate challenge facing nearly 100,000 Weltmeister car owners.

Why is this sounding like a shill piece for China?

its like western and European can dominate the world car industry,but china is not allowed to dominate,what is this?when foreign company dominate even Chinese marker they accept their defeat,now western and European havento access defeat and rise and let rise system should be apply.its a shame that west and European look china down.

China works on copying and info theft, and if it can't seal it, then they "invite" companies to learn from them, and then they drive them out by massively subsidizing theyir own brands. They did it with Apple, GM, VW a,d now theyre doing it with Tesla. Already Tesla's cars are restricted to enter any government related building parking lots and areas. West is learning the hard way how the China relationship works.
But it takes time to re-restablish these supplychains in other countries or back on home soil.

For all those who are singing the praises of China's electric cars, I would think twice about buying a Chinese car. Why? For one thing, the quality is nowhere near what is being made to believe here. For another who wants to drive a car whose functionality, when push comes to shove, depends on the goodwill of the Chinese government? And more importantly, who wants to support a system that gains an advantage by disregarding patents and intellectual property of foreign companies and individuals and copying products blatantly?
In contrast to contract awards in Western countries, there are no international tenders. On the other hand, the Chinese government complains when a Chinese company is to be excluded from a tender (see Huawei). There is no legal security, freedom of speech and democracy in China. What a contract with China is worth, one sees what has become of democracy and human rights in Hong Kong after the takeover.
Unfortunately, many foreign companies have not yet realized that they have shot themselves in the foot with their production in China, which will ultimately either cost them their existence or at least be very expensive.
I am curious whether this somewhat critical comment will be deleted again. 😉

Y'all talking about Chinese and Western cars. Wait for Tata and Mahindra!

Software-Defined Vehicles

One of the biggest reasons is the European affordable ($20k-$40k) EV cars are extremely not worthy and unreliable. For example, an entire Volkswagen ID lineup seems and feels rudementary as compared to BYD Song Plus, Leapmotor C11. These chinese cars are packed with cool tech, reliable, beautifully made and most importantly, has a soul. But VW ID cars seems like a joystick, just a simple vehicle that gets you from point A to point B.

chi na car totally rubbish

When china cars come to other country the data will be restored by china in their data base.they can hack any govt.insttilations.

Good report. Wake up Germany, forget work/life balance nonsense and work hard

Uhm driving vehicles that can be possibility controlled / hijacked by the CCP outside China does not seams to be like a smart idea to me.

Western capitals will no longer be able to replenish their billions of dollars ! All profits will go to Asia and the West is not ready to put up with it, I invent and accuse China under the guise of consumer protection! In fact, protecting their capital

Until BYD starts making bicycles. Ill keep cycling. In the UK Saic motor has made £1billion in sales on MG cars. 52% of the population voted brexit. I rest my case.

Remember Nokia, Ericsson, Motorola, and Blackberry, the same will happen with a lot of car manufacturers.

China just simply copied all western technology, made it cheaper using cheaper materials and slave work... very easy!

Cant one import VW from China then?

Copy and paste cheap policy

Chinese Government welcome foreign competition. So that local companies become more competitive.

The biggest mistake the west made was to empower China. It will regret this for ever more.

The beginning of the end

BYD is a nice and good car there vw have no chance, china not longer copy they make it better

They really wonder ? German politics and it obedience to U.S. demands are responsible for this mess. China produces mass products with cheap labor and energy and puts advanced technologies in every car as a standard package. Design of Chinese cars is more exciting than boring German cars as well. Spareparts cheaper. I always will go for any Chinese car over any German manufacturer as they produce in China or elsewhere anyway and adding overhead on it.

Seriously, why don't you report the real news on Tesla? China couldn't compete straight on and fairly with Tesla in China, so they have resorted to outright banning people driving Tesla cars over claimed security concerns...look it up. Since so many Chinese work for the Government, or are in the military, this is unfair manipulative business practice to destroy Tesla in China. I hope foreign markets do the same to BYD to retaliate.

In Brazil, BYD and GWM are selling more and more with their more technological and cheaper models than conventional automakers.

Work harder don't attack the competition

Meanwhile we Indians are still fighting each other

Simple. Chinese can survive off scraps. No wonder their engeneers are so good.

What about the tens of thousands of Chinese EV cars. Built sitting in parking lots, with registration to boost sales numbers and get government kick backs.

BYD is very likely to setup a factory in Mexico soon.

Moeal lesson. Never do buaineas with Communist China

Not that Herbert Diess was likely to save VW from going out of businesses, but he was their only hope. Politics got him fired. RIP 90% of legacy auto.

China is benefitting from previous good years of positive demographics and at being able to marry high technology invented in other countries with its relatively cheap labor.
All of those important underlying factors are on the decline for China.

Chinese govornment has a ultimate skill: the five-year plan. That skill sounds normal, but it can get anything they promised done. Guess what! they just lauched another one to bulid the whole chip industry on their own land.