Is the GeForce 4 Ti 4600 the ultimate Windows 98 graphics card?

Is the GeForce 4 Ti 4600 the ultimate Windows 98 graphics card?

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@pistolasex
@pistolasex - 19.01.2024 09:13

thanks for the videos, they are very well done, if possible I would like to suggest that you also include older games in your tests, such as duke nukem, hexen, doom and games from around 1994-1995 to see how these graphics cards behave in terms compatibility, thanks in advance!

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@JAP917
@JAP917 - 02.11.2023 08:16

The Ti4600 was my first "high end" GPU back in 2004 or so. Finally got decent frame rates and shading in Halo. I epoxied a massive Pentium Pro passive aluminum heatsink on it, and it ran super cool. Took up three slots at that time but worked really well with just case airflow. Now I wish I still had it.

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@n.ludemann9199
@n.ludemann9199 - 31.10.2023 01:41

Video revisited after 6 years ;) 2023 perspective: Get a Geforce 4 ti 4200... the lowest price for a quadro 4 XGL or ti 4600 I could find was 175EUR. One gets a tested ti4200 for 35EUR - the massive extra premium isn't worth it. Radeon 8500 (LE) is much to expensive in 10/2023, roundabout 100EUR, while a 9800 XL is 50EUR. Parhelia 650 are out there for 35EUR, the full version 80EUR... I only take cards into consideration which cost less than 50EUR...

My favorites, AGP, maximum 50EUR:

DX6 - Elsa Synergy II, 32MB or Elsa Erazor III (Pro, Pro ViVo or Vivo) ( 32MB versions of the TNT2, 128bit bus; I prefer the Pro with the bigger fan) - 25 - 50 EUR
Rage 128 pro with DVI - for everyday gaming purposes I prefer those with a DVI-Port, hooks up to CRT and modern HDMI Monitors well.. 25-35EUR
Matrox G400 32MB - 10 - 15EUR [(or a G550 for 5-10, even it has some T&Lish stuff and a vertex shader ;) - DX6 with DVI...)]
DX7 - Geforce4 MX 440 or 460, Radeon 7500; as above, I like the DVI versions... 10 -25EUR (with DVI)
DX8 - Geforce4 Ti 4200, same for everyday gaming: pick one with DVI, 35EUR
DX9 - Radeon 9800 XL, 50EU or 9600 TX, for 25EUR
Radeon x800 non/pro/GT/GTO - sometimes available for under 50EUR
Radeon X700 non/pro - sometimes available for under 35EUR
DX10 - Radeon HD 3650 - 25 - 35EUR

(Remember, I checked for AGP-Cards, not PCIe!)

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@Goldman1156_
@Goldman1156_ - 19.10.2023 12:43

Good job man

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@FatalityOCC
@FatalityOCC - 14.09.2023 16:00

X850XT is last supported GPU

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@ATomRileyA
@ATomRileyA - 29.05.2023 17:01

Loved my 4600 Ti i went from a geforce 2 to the 4600 and it was a big difference in performance, i remember getting it to play Morrowind as my computer was not up to it at the time, played on a barco projector and was so immersive on the big screen probably why Morrowind is one of my favorite games.

I also had it water cooled and still have the waterblock somewhere for it, was pretty cool setup also had a watercooled cpu as well so it ran cool and quiet with a big radiator.

I keep meaning to build a retro computer as i never throw anything out and am a bit of a hoarder haha, so have everything from that era including the water cooling kit.

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@mariastevens6406
@mariastevens6406 - 13.03.2023 07:57

So does this run glide api at all?

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@samuelstyles5031
@samuelstyles5031 - 01.03.2023 18:21

can the ti 4600 run FEAR?

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@rhysholdaway
@rhysholdaway - 31.12.2022 21:08

I have one of these cards paired with a Dual CPU Intel Pentium III Slot 1 1000Mhz 100FSB 1.7v SL4KL.

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@marvelv212
@marvelv212 - 28.12.2022 21:13

voodoo 3 and forget it.

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@D4RKBRU73
@D4RKBRU73 - 25.12.2022 16:09

The last ultimate DX9 card was the ATI X800 which came waaaay later than the GF4

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@jopiebaksteen3856
@jopiebaksteen3856 - 23.12.2022 14:17

Man I owned the Leadtek ti 4200 64mb. I overclocked it using Rivatuner I believe. Loved this card. Playing GTA 3 and other classics, what an era. I purchased a Leadtek 4200 on ebay and still own it.

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@ccoonansr
@ccoonansr - 09.12.2022 12:49

This was such a magical era regarding the games. From Max Payne to Shenmue there were alot of great games across all platforms at this point. PC was the clear winner.

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@franckcalais188
@franckcalais188 - 09.12.2022 01:25

Nice Phil. Really expensive GPU on ebay, I keep my GeForce 4 :(

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@Gaban-Force
@Gaban-Force - 27.09.2022 18:52

nfs underground 2 my first try the game with mya amd athlon x2 5200 (2.7ghz) with 9600gt 512mb

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@prezeskodaty4637
@prezeskodaty4637 - 27.09.2022 16:49

geforce 2 mx400 works better than geforce 4

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@prezeskodaty4637
@prezeskodaty4637 - 27.09.2022 16:41

Graphics card geforce fx 5200 ultra agp8 is for windows 95 windows 98 best for retro computer processor via C7D 1800 is the best sound card sound blaster live 5.1 24bit or gravis ultrasound memory ram ddr1 1024 megabytes 4x256mb

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@dan167
@dan167 - 08.09.2022 07:49

this is super late but that keyboard issues typically happens due to drivers causing the gpu to underclock then quickly try to catch up, happens on my 3090 atm and I have to use an xoc vbois to force it to always run at full speed to fix it.

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@troglodude980
@troglodude980 - 06.09.2022 01:56

I feel a 9800 xt would be the best option for windows 98 no?

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@rzober89biologia
@rzober89biologia - 09.08.2022 14:43

Why not 4800?

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@davkdavk
@davkdavk - 07.08.2022 08:55

I had a Sparkle Ti 4200. used to beat my mate's FX 5600 to his upset

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@SpeedIng80
@SpeedIng80 - 21.07.2022 23:11

I had the Leadtek GF4 Ti 4400 back in the day, it looked exactly the same as far as I remember. It was a great card in the Pentium III - S era, which I have kept until today. Meanwhile I have teamed it up with a Voodoo 3 3000, but I also have a GF4 Ti 4200 to swap. I think the later Windows 98 games can also be run on Windows XP, therefore I think the Voodoo 3 is the even better Windows 98 card in case you have a WinXP system as well.

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@ers-tj4to
@ers-tj4to - 09.05.2022 01:42

When graphics cards were actually cards and not the power-hungry bricks they are like today.

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@Imgema
@Imgema - 05.05.2022 22:59

Funny how, originally, they pushed the Geforce 3 as the DOOM 3 card and in the end, not even the flagship Geforce 4 can run it good enough.

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@janwitkowsky8787
@janwitkowsky8787 - 02.05.2022 22:25

Have found an nVidia Quadro 4 for sale.
300 DKK (~60 AUD)

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@GewelReal
@GewelReal - 27.04.2022 02:06

I am blown away it can play HL2

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@Legal-104
@Legal-104 - 25.04.2022 05:53

what would a good price be for a geforce2 ultra?

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@robwebnoid5763
@robwebnoid5763 - 22.02.2022 06:45

I still have my 4600, which I bought in 2002. I researched the hell out of this back then & made sure I get the right video card for its price-performance ratio. And after all that research, I decided on the 4600 & never looked back. I got the MSI-branded version. I still use it to this day on one of my Win 98se rigs.

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@kirkmooneyham
@kirkmooneyham - 07.02.2022 01:42

I had an AGP Ti 4400 and used that card for a long time until I got my first PCI-E motherboard. That Ti 4400 did way better than it should have for longer than it's specs would have suggested.

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@RanieroSupremo
@RanieroSupremo - 16.01.2022 22:06

Can I find issues when I play DOS games?

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@hartsickdisciple
@hartsickdisciple - 31.12.2021 00:26

One of these with a pair of Voodoo 2 cards in SLI would be ideal for a Windows 98 setup.

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@alexandreconfiant-latour2757
@alexandreconfiant-latour2757 - 30.12.2021 21:07

Thanks for this video.
This card is also available as Quadro version (Quadro4 980XGL) with same clock speeds, but tends to be hard to find as well.

This era (1999-2002) was really a turning point regarding graphic hardware and APIs with rapid jumps from DX6 to DX9.
Three years, especially at that time, was a very unreasonable amount of time to make hardware obsolete. Computers were still expensive and seen as "durable" goods. Like a TV or a washing machine.
If you paid a lot of money for your Geforce256 in 1999, it would have been a big blow to drop its support only 2 years after. (Sorry for you Rage Furry Maxx owners)
And it was the same for the few following GPU generations (GF 2,3,4, R100, R200).

The adaptative rendering modes seen in games like HL2 and FarCry is really unique. Half life 2 supported DX7 to DX9 (even if DX7 support was removed later).
That reflects the really fast evolution of 3D hardware at that time. (while software rendering was still a thing not long ago)
I run HL2 on my Geforce256 SDR with a Pentium III. It's playable. Minimum resolution, minimum details. But playable, as i could complete a whole game chapter.
Really interesting era.

Radeon R300 started some kind of a "plateau" with DX9 support. Graphics APIs were stable again for a while. Next cards generations were just faster and had more shader processing units and more memory.
That means that newer games were "technically" supported by old cards. Skyrim from 2011 could potentially run on a Radeon 9700 from 2002 (slideshow mode probably)
Now, games don't need to support a lot of rendering modes to cover older cards. Graphic APIs evolution is much slower.

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@lepidotos
@lepidotos - 09.12.2021 03:38

It certainly makes for the best Mac OS 9 card, no contest. eBay sellers have been sure to hammer that fact in with their pricing.

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@vmirv0games14
@vmirv0games14 - 23.10.2021 14:33

really good card for this age

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@fuzzycat7313
@fuzzycat7313 - 10.10.2021 18:36

I still have this card somewhere it was my first real video card

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@GTFour
@GTFour - 07.09.2021 05:23

One can often overclock a Ti 4200 to 4600 speeds, ultimately the entire Geforce 4 Ti range is the same chipset just binned for clock speed.

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@lucastorres997
@lucastorres997 - 25.08.2021 23:40

ati radeon 9700

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@Phenom98
@Phenom98 - 22.07.2021 14:24

YT comments be like: "StiLL BeTtEr ThaN mY GpU T_T"

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@ERREX
@ERREX - 07.06.2021 20:36

The geforce 4 ti 4200 is 1,5v right?

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@bobbrown8661
@bobbrown8661 - 03.06.2021 11:46

Whats its ETH hash rate? 🙃

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@Trancelistic
@Trancelistic - 09.05.2021 22:22

I had back then a GF4 TI 4200SE volt modded by some 1. It was a bit better then a 4600, or so he said.. But I loved that card.

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@logipilot
@logipilot - 28.04.2021 12:18

prices of Ti4600 are sky high, better get a MSI ti4200 with quick 3.6 ns ram ;)

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@Globalelite-gm8dj
@Globalelite-gm8dj - 24.03.2021 22:00

The FX 5200 and 5600 are joke to this card.

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@gamewizard1760
@gamewizard1760 - 22.03.2021 13:35

It's not the "ultimate" Windows 98 video card. Windows 98 supports DX 9, the GeForce 4 Ti doesn't. You need a DX 9 supporting video card before you can start saying that one is the "ultimate" Windows 98 card. Just on a guess, I would have to say that the Radeon X800/850 cards are probably the best Windows 98 supporting cards out there. They generally run faster than the GeForce 6 cards, and Nvidia started cutting out some support for legacy features that are required by some older games to run when they released the GeForce 6.

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@mordigan
@mordigan - 16.03.2021 10:24

Hello! Can i make translation for your videos to russian! And download in my chanel of course i leave link to original video

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@buffhorses
@buffhorses - 10.03.2021 01:14

Just got one brand new in the box for 60 bucks!

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