Rules of the Game: Five Techniques from Quite Inventive Designers

Rules of the Game: Five Techniques from Quite Inventive Designers

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Dylan King
Dylan King - 17.06.2023 19:58

this talk is literally "A man can get lost in the sauce, but the same man. can be lost without the sauce." -Gucci Mane

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Simon Chen
Simon Chen - 27.02.2023 06:46

Great talk overall. I watched all of them except the last one, though. For some reason it felt like a presentation that just talked about "What makes this game cool" instead of giving defined, actionable guidance like all the talks before it.

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mage
mage - 24.12.2022 23:55

"Our player has a brain." Questionable. In fact, I would argue the average player doesn't, and that that fact explains the success of modern AAA titles. Also remember: no matter how robust you make your system, the universe will always create a bigger idiot who is smart enough to defeat it and dumb enough to try.

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Tzisorey Tigerwuf
Tzisorey Tigerwuf - 25.08.2021 03:16

"Where do your ideas come from?"
Through a melding of eldritch arts and perverted dark science I have managed to imprison a muse within a contraption that allows me to syphon inspiration from her like a hellish ichor. It's the easiest way.

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Simpson
Simpson - 20.08.2021 16:07

this is the complete opposite of what i heard i should do. i heard i should wait to put in these really fun special effects and work with programmer art for as long as i can and make the game fun before adding these things, that way the game is even more fun in the end.
however what no one told me is that this makes developing the game a lot less fun for you, the dev and less fun slows down development.
i might try giving my games a bit of polish early on, maybe this way i wont get depressed and give up halfway through.

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gilless429
gilless429 - 14.08.2021 19:31

Quite liked the Lee Perry talk, currently watching the Emily Short one and I'm liking it even more. This is a lot of fun to watch, and very interesting/informative.

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Wiaf
Wiaf - 02.08.2021 19:56

at first i was like "what a weird concept", so glad i didnt click away. binging these hard. 10minutes really cooks out an interesting essential message on which one can build.

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The Daniel Droege Show
The Daniel Droege Show - 30.07.2021 17:16

That talk on the nemesis system took me back to being a kid watching the race to break the home run record. It all seems like pro wrestling to me now though.

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The Daniel Droege Show
The Daniel Droege Show - 30.07.2021 16:47

Wait, you guys use code to pallet swap?

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RenegadeRocks
RenegadeRocks - 18.05.2021 14:45

What is the best software to make flow charts ? And they should be easy to modify too. Any suggestions would greatly help.

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Troy Hayder
Troy Hayder - 04.03.2021 07:04

I came up with a cool one myself that I haven't seen anywhere else... You can use dynamic movable lights on actors to "light up" when they get hit... Looks really sweet... Its not performance heavy either... I'm on a five year old rig... Over 30fps...

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davedaddy101
davedaddy101 - 17.10.2020 18:53

George Fan was great. The others were too.

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Virak Ngauv
Virak Ngauv - 27.08.2020 03:40

I really liked the documentation talk!

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CptnHammer1
CptnHammer1 - 13.08.2020 15:09

The documentation talk was great!

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judgeomega
judgeomega - 12.08.2020 15:16

the talk on documentation was surprisingly informative

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judgeomega
judgeomega - 12.08.2020 14:37

novel ideas and fun are the essence of good games. if you just make something that works, it is just a brainless soulless factory made clone... and i dont care much about those, or more precisely, i actively hate them.

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Rose Juliette
Rose Juliette - 25.07.2020 04:00

I enjoy this talk but that opener still grates on me and the MC is very much impeding the speakers with his rushing on of speakers and negative weighted commentary between speakers.

Even just in his first talking points you see him pushing pretty to bitter attitudes. If good ideas are so prolific then how come bad ideas continue to reach publication. How come the same ideas are being rehashed to the point of stagnation. The reality is that there is often dismissive attitudes toward people who have particularly ambitious or risky ideas. That's fair enough if someone is looking for a budget but at some point we need people to take those risks. The fact that indie devs continue to be the pioneers in creating new genres and new styles of play shows to me that this "ideas are easy" attitude is just industry talk to undermine creatives.

Yes implementation is the hardest part but that is such a general term that covers 90% of the process of development. Implementation includes designing, coding, debugging, play testing, animating etc. If you divide development into catagories of conception Vs implementation then no wonder you will see that one is a larger project.

So yeah I don't know if the MC is a nice person so I'm not judging him as a person but I hope he has improved his MC skills because I shouldn't be here thinking about that when so many of the speakers had such thoughtful opinions they were expressing.

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For Posterity
For Posterity - 29.06.2020 04:04

I dunno, fun is a pretty specific descriptor word. Maybe that's why a lot of games suck, devs don't like the word fun.

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Warp Zone
Warp Zone - 14.05.2020 17:03

WTF? "Feedback is Pizzazz?" Feedback is FEEDBACK. You don't need to make up another term to describe its importance. Have you ever played a game where there's NO feedback when you take damage? Feedback is how your player knows that a thing happened. It's not polish, and it's not "pizzazz." Pizzazz is an extra layer of art direction over the top of feedback. Feedback tells you what happened, EXACTLY when it happened, ideally a little bit about WHY it happened, and its scale should reflect its importance. Don't just throw a bunch of unnecessary particle effects on the screen for the hell of it.When the thing that matters happens, make it LOOK like it happened and like it mattered! That's literally what feedback is. Without feedback, the player doesn't even push buttons because the first time they pushed them, nothing happened!

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TrueRealm Research
TrueRealm Research - 25.02.2020 01:21

Seems flawed since the concept is based around a limited time to develop not "make the funnest game you can". This is why there are few good games that last these days.

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M
M - 12.02.2020 02:36

The talk about enemy variety covers some of the most important ways of looking at enemies, he even went over interesting prioritization that REALLY helps to make a single enemy translate interestingly to various contexts, stopping you from falling in patterns of seeing enemy x and doing y.
I hope people hear this one, this is the thing I spend by far the most of my time on, the enemies, their traits, their ai, the way multiple enemies combine, all in a space that itself has meaning through your and the enemies' mechanics.

I highly recommend just throwing together random levels and discovering how much more there is to your selection of enemies etc. than you though. The level will probably suck, but you end up seeing partial solutions to unbeatable encounters, and a little bit of fun that just needs some conflict in the trivial ones etc. etc.
Basically, do what Jonathan Blow does, poke at your system and be perceptive of what happens and how you can harness that.

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Skyhex
Skyhex - 26.01.2020 07:03

Emerlald: it's alwys one step ath a i tim that allo thiws kinf comple viow o game development

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Dergeick
Dergeick - 07.01.2020 00:51

Lee Perry's talk was really illuminating!

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Sayam Qazi
Sayam Qazi - 31.12.2019 11:32

The game that really hit me hard with a cnosequence of my actions was "dishonored". Due to some choices a certain character dies. I go to the place where he/she dies and crouch on the corpse and press interact (which is used to examine) and the prompt just said "you discovered nothing". Don't know why but it hit me hard.

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Aeneas Ayun
Aeneas Ayun - 29.11.2019 05:54

This is awesome

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SSC van Zyl
SSC van Zyl - 17.06.2019 21:31

Lol, the humour is great.

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SSC van Zyl
SSC van Zyl - 17.06.2019 21:31

Lol, the humour is great.

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Funkopedia
Funkopedia - 23.05.2019 02:21

I loved Lee Perry's work on the Jamaican port of the E.T. game

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Wikum Chamith
Wikum Chamith - 16.04.2019 09:01

Kudos on not showing gay sports

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Gneel Costello
Gneel Costello - 24.03.2019 08:09

Emily dipped out with the quickness.

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Sam x
Sam x - 06.03.2019 01:55

This is a really fantastic talk overall

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Sam x
Sam x - 06.03.2019 01:29

The Pizzazz talk was really interesting and helpful

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Rory
Rory - 27.01.2019 15:37

They don't like to talk about fun - it's no wonder they don't make anything substantial.
Fun isn't abstract concept, and it's objective. But I understand why they would think this way. It's just sad that this kind of knowledge is widespread in the game development industry.

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GlintGamer
GlintGamer - 09.12.2018 03:49

Lee Perry's little segment was just great.

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Axel Kusanagi
Axel Kusanagi - 10.11.2018 19:51

The Witcher 3 used the visualization of their database to fix bugs and glitches. Yes, it could have been worse.

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Retrx
Retrx - 03.07.2018 17:01

Why do we care about people xD

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Brian Long
Brian Long - 20.04.2018 21:08

Plant and fireball differ too because plant has linear movement and fireball has non-linear movement.

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Mark Luck
Mark Luck - 13.03.2018 21:58

george's talk was simple, comprehensive and very informative. loved it!

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Sapiensiate
Sapiensiate - 20.12.2017 02:56

"We don't like the word fun very much" - probably why so many games suck these days.

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xdmx
xdmx - 03.11.2017 22:09

Well that confirmed I'm too susceptible to motion sickness to ever play VR games.

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Fabian Roland
Fabian Roland - 14.08.2017 20:33

I never believed the Nemesis system would make me feel taunted and played through the game and barely died ever.
Then I farmed some Runes and suddenly met a captain with ridiculous immunities, he easily killed me and I went back to avenge my death and I died again and he got became Warlord soon after!
I was REALLY scared of this guy and used every trick in the game to trap, face and defeat him and his army in a 50min faceoff at the fortress with cliffs always going back and forth!

Never would've thought this game could trigger this feeling in me and other than the story ending it's a masterpiece in most ways!
Now even more disappointing and downright aggravating that the successor is turning out to be a shitshow we have to boycott

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EZ ni
EZ ni - 02.08.2017 12:32

还不错~希望出更多。

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