Why I switched back to Intel...

Amd is trash

AMD is 🗑️! I am not kidding. That caused me so much frustration that I sold the laptop after owning for 2 months. Yet they keep on pushing and showing these processors down our throats.

Yes the bad part about AMD is it’s not just gaming and if you think it’s just gaming than you fooling yourself. I have seen it with multiple tasks including video and audio processing. It was supposed to be the best chip on the market yet my intel 2 generations older cpu never did any of the freezing , slowing down…. Even when playing games. I got the Amd for the fact that it was a faster chip😂! Never again and I am done for good with AMD. Had to part with the laptop that crap was unacceptable to me. The architecture is definitely inferior!!!

Why u switched.. cuz its u got money for it or its free 😊

Indeed. Let's go back to 10 nm. Good idea!

On a 3800x with 6900xt, amd ftw

Hey there, thanks for the vid, I mainly play Fortnite which is more CPU intensive. I'm planning on getting a 7800x3d. Do you think I would have this problem as well?

intel is ok as long as you don't mind big electric bills.

so your throwing in the towel because of one amd cpu! move back off of the 3d if you don't like it!.

Jay somethings not right with your mounted water block. It must not be making good/perfect contact. I'm running a 13900KS SP113 with unlimited power limits at 5.9Ghz up to 60c and 5.8Ghz afterwards on P cores and my E cores set to 4.7Ghz and it never gets above 78c-81c at full load. I'm using an EK Quantum Magnitude Nickel+Acetal 1700 block and 2x EK Quantum Surface X480M radiators.

For any overclocking enthusiast, the only way to go is Intel. Also, Intel has a much better built-in hardware based thread/core designator instead of the software based one, like AMD uses. Not to mention Intel 13900/14900K support much faster DDR5 memory. I'm running 2x24GB 8000 DDR5 at 36-46-46-86 timings on my 13900KS. CPU is OCed to 5.9Ghz on all P cores and 4.7Ghz on all E cores. All run on a Custom Water Loop.

AMD has been bad for me, but I think the Asus motherboard I used had a lot to do with it. I tried everything to add stability. It wasn't even an X3D, but it was AM5. Memory controller is awful. I had to change the RAM brand and run it stock and it still would crash regularly while gamimg. 7900XT had problems with the majority of games I ran, even undervolted. I sold the entire PC after a couple months of problems. I won't buy AMD again. Too many headaches. My 4080 13700k system has a lot fewer issues. I am overclocking, so I occasionally get a crash or blue screen, but it is rare and I just adjust things and it goes away.

BOTTOM LINE: if you compare the latest from AMD and Intel - which would you choose?

I just purchased a 77800x3d motherboard and an Asus ROG Strix X670E-E motherboard. Does anyone have problems with this?

"Why I switched back to Intel..." - the question should be - how much did Intel pay you. I've heard rumors.. ;)

I use 5950x And for my general use and occasional gaming, it was so powerful, that I undervolted the CPU to 3,3 Ghz on all 16 cores and it runs at 0.8V drawing around 40W. The impact is that the whole case and CPU fans can ran on 25% which is dead silent.
If i need more performance, I can simply set it to default....

What about the 7800x3D?

Ive been perfectly stable on 6000 34 34 34 74 shit timings ik. But yah i only crash if i undervolt too far. Been adjusting cores one by one all week.

It is 2024
And X570 Dark Hero still have the weird 1900flck black hole bug....

It sucks you spend so much in a CPU and it sucks like that.

Intel always slightly better, no matter what.

All I heard was "Intel paid me"

5700X on B550 Aorus Pro, curve optimizer -25. Boosts to 4.85 GHz low to mid 70's temps on Arctic AC34 Air. DDR3600 running @ 3733 CL16 with tightened timings - no issues. Nice uptick from the Ryzen 3600 golden sample that preceded it which itself was a significant upgrade from the 3770K that QB'd my little 'farm' of systems for 8 years. I did have a RAM problem with my HTPC after building it with the R 3600 that had been freed up but it turns out it was the motherboard's inability to run the RAM any higher or tighter than 'stock' XMP. It's an entry level B550 board tho so I'm not too disappointed. I've heard there's issues with 2 or 4 DIMMs, single rank vs dual rank, etc. with some AM5 systems so you've probably been one of the unlucky ones Jay. I expected some 'teething problems' with AM5 which is one of the reasons I upgraded to the 5700X instead. I'll probably make the jump when it's Zen 5 or 6 or an Intel equivalent - whatever makes more sense at the time.

I was thinking of going with the 7950X3D and I'm so glad I went DerBauer 14900K. I have never had an AMD product I really felt was quality. And seeing what issues people have with the AMD, no thanks.

Actually just got a 14900k! Scared to chose what to cool this thing with...

AMD fanboys must be ultra sensitive if Jay has to make this video 17 minutes to say "because intel is just better"

"it's my party and I'll cry if I want to, cry if i want to ... " :))) Such "big" problems for spoiled rich techies trapped in their beautiful weak ass systems :) This fall all records will fall :) A new cooling system and 10 GHz CPU will arise :)

The X3D chips from AMD are very very similar to the new intel with P core and E cores and it seems they have just done a worse job overall from what Intel has done, I have heard nothing but issues with multi tasking on X3D chips and even heard users have system crashes from it

5800x3d now and its great. i had the issues you are dealing with in my r5 2600 set up tho

I love my 5900x and 6950xt. I'm happy. Runs Star Citizen at over 100fps with no issues.

this is why ive alsways stuck to intel+nvidia for gaming. stability.

okay. For me it is always about FPS and the highest levels of graphics I can get in a game.

But here is a bit of biology. The Human Eye/Brain interface, i.e. YOU physically and biologically can not recognize anything over 60 Frames per second. MOST people, can just barely see the difference between 40 and 50 FPS, a lot of people can "see" a difference between 50 and 60. No one, just looking at an animation can "see" any difference between 60 and 100 FPS.

Video is filmed at 33 FPS. Old School FILM aninmation, as in the 60s and 50s versions of Road Runner cartoons where the individual frames of the negative FILM were painted in by hand, were filmed at 23 FPS.

Since I watch all my ND movies in 1080P thats a great resolution for me. Thus, I can game at a much lower budget than most really high end tech folk would even consider worth while.

Purchased my current computer not too long ago and gave AMD a chance based on bang for buck at the time and all the reviews saying how much improvement their hardware has gone through.

Somewhat regret it now. It works most of the time, but I have gremlins that almost always seem to point to AMD software. I was increasingly experiencing Windows gray screen which I think (fingers crossed) I traced back to AMD firmware not updating. Somehow the AMD Adrenaline software just straight up deleted the option to update. It was nowhere to be found. So I uninstalled, then reinstalled, and bam, there was the option to update the firmware exactly where it always was. I updated the firmware, and haven't experienced gray screen since.

Then, a video conversion software I use to manage my home media server wouldn't operate until I uninstalled Adrenaline.

Games also seem to crash more than I ever experienced using Intel and Nvidia.

This is on a system with an AMD 5950 processor and AMD 6950XT graphics card. No overclocking, no modifications other than tweaking fan settings to be more aggressive when system temps go up.

Already thinking of getting a replacement system and I used to only upgrade every five years or so.

Staying AMD, they keep sockets longer so I can upgrade and not need a new MoBo.

Yeah, my i9 14900k is running 7000 M/T DDR5 64 GB rock solid sturdy and stable.

Well, I JUST purchased an AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D system parts!

Great Video. I was considering AMD for my upgrade from Intel 2600k (a decade old build that is a great PC) I m jumping on the 14900k (newegg sales). hope to get another decade PC. I am keeping the 2600k pc alive(the new is all new) to revert should I have issues.

I went to intel recently myself. Any time I would use amd I would never really see the fps I thought I would. I just only have a 13700f. So far I’m seeing great results.

Had so many problems with memory and AMD systems, and I'm tired. Just tired. Intel in my testing is just more reliable and stable... although I'm writing this on a 5950X system, please, don't die on meeee___**^**^*^ /carrier terminated

I did experience similar issues with my first 7950 x3d, bestbuy took it without issue as defective and the replacement is stellar! High performance, multitasking and gaming monster gaming...... Running EXPO 6400 zero crashes or boot issues.

7950X3D with 64GB 6000 CL 30 no issues whatsoever other than crushing Intel fans hearts that use 5x the electricity for not as good performance lol

thats what i always say. Intel is stable . intel and toyota always reliabale ... ;)

Never touching AMD again. Had two AMD systems, constant issues. Games running horribly (the fact Minecraft on the same settings ran better on an Intel iGPU over a dedicated GPU), drivers not working, crashes, overheating. Moment I moved to Inte, not a single issue. Intel is just eaiser and better.

Good to see intel is back in the game ... of spending on spreading fud to get people to buy their systems

Shhhhh.....

I'm about 2-3 weeks into my first AM5 build. A 7950x w/ 64Gb of Dominator Platinum and a 7900 XTX GPU. Considered for a bit to grab the 7950x3D and i'm kinda glad I didn't after watching this video. That said i'm super curious to see how the next weeks and months come as I ramp up my use on this new build (still use the old system some). So far everything is stable, no crashes or blue screens. Literally just installed and started going so everything is just set to the out-of-the-box settings at the moment. So far i'm pleased and really enjoy it all; definitely a good experience as i've typically been an Intel guy.

Thanks for the video Jay (and team). I hope you are doing well. :)

Intel and Nvidia for peace of mind, ease of use and reliability - its just a fact..

For gaming I'd go for R7 7800x3D. For productivity the R9 7950x or i7 14700K or above. I don't understand why anyone goes for the R9 7950x3D.

Lmao Intel is still king for everything

Changing the e-cores from 4.4 to 4.3 reduced temps quite a bit for me with my 14900k, even in gaming where I was getting weird thermal spikes that never occurred on my 13900k. Whatever extra voltage is going into them is creating all sorts of unnecessary heat, and my synthetic scores actually increased slightly (with power limit).

There's really no reason why you should be running your e-cores at 4.6. That's just stupid and totally unnecessary.