Search War: Elasticsearch Vs OpenSearch

Valuable video, thank you

That is opensource, but AWS are scary happy to compete with their customers. Happened to us too!

and you think Amazon won't do the same? just look at Google. Doing the same shit. Amazon is just mad it got beaten at their game

What a great explainer. Explained such complicated stuff around licensing so clearly in just 11minutes. Got to learn so much about licensing more than any other resource.

Was bit confused thanks for the explanation. 🤓

Thanks for this good video :)

I guess I'll go with Solr

This was very explanatory.

Also do a video of tech companies that started out as simple open source projects & went on to list on the stock exchange & become multibillion dollar behemoths

This was so clear and concise. Great job explaining! This is one of the best explanations I have seen in a while.

Amazon claiming to support open source they should collaborating with the company behind elastic search instead of trying to kill it.

Waw that's dirty

As much as I dislike so many of Amazon's business practices, I do find Elastic's nerfing of their sdk/beat clients by blocking connections to OSS implementations of the server software very anti-open. This prevents any open use of ElasticSearch being usable by it's client ecosystem after v7.14.

Explanation for this couldn't have been better! Kudos :)

You've been reading too much Elasticsearch propaganda! If "XYZ Elasticsearch Service" is trademark infringement, then almost every web hosting company infringes trademarks like WordPress, MySQL, Apache, NGINX, Linux... As long as the core software package identified by the trademark isn't modified, it's not trademark infringement to identify the product. Also, it wouldn't be trademark infringement to denote compatibility like "XYZ Service for Elasticsearch" or "XYZ Elasticsearch-compatible Service" – even if the package was modified.

It's shows big problem that open source is orphan. People work doesn't matter.

Great video to sort out the mess. I eventually chose OpenSearch for my project as it's just easy to use an AWS service, although I don't like the way Amazon as the bigger guy just infringed ElasticSearch's trademark bluntly and did not even want to give a proper apology at the very beginning.

Amazon is a nasty I thought 💭 f working for them now will never do.

Loved the explanation, thanks a lot

how about u? are u team elastic? or opensearch?

Elastic's License should be on the end user's side whereas the AWS benefits from their managed IAAS

Phenomenal video. Subscribed.

shame on amazon

Excellent review! Congratulations on the readiness!

Conditional open source has been a thing since the introduction of copyleft in the 1980's, don't pretend like it's some new hideous subvertion of open source principles

Cloud services aside, if you wanted to run elasticstack in your own premises, the main reason for choosing OpenDistro was that it included security features like role based access, ldap integration and TLS - you know, the bare minimum, whereas the only elastic alternative was to pay for Xpack. For small projects or customers this was not feasible.
Without this debacle, elastic would probably never have felt the urge to include these features into their products. So that’s a good thing.

Linux Centos (free) vs Redhat (paid) - So many vendors use Linux at no cost. Why is this any different? I thought Opensource was not about the money. AWS is charging for the hardware and the management of its backend. Elasticsearch needs to be competitive with its managed offering and API integration. Like Redhat and other vendors who you pay for support.

Really good until that "fair share in taxes" nonsense. Lost a lot of credibility with that.

Quality vid man

Excellent video. Thank you.

Both companies have the same motivation, money. The thing is, when all the cards were on the table, only Amazon actually chose the open source route.

Elastic wants the money and the good will, but doesn't have the fortitude to commit to actually being open source. They are just source available, or "open source with a booby trap". They want their cake and to eat it too.

I don't like Amazon, but at least they have so far commited to true FOSS principles, they have a roadmap for setting up an foundation for the OpenSearch project to get it out from under the corporate heel. I don't think "wanting people to develop the software for them" is a fair criticism, isn't the point of OSS exactly that people can choose to contribute and all parties benefit.

If only enterprise software companies were half as good at explaining their solutions as you are! Great explainer video!

you got a really nice channel here.

Cheers for the video, good insight.

Thanks for this neutral explainer, really informative

what about apache solr , at least mention it

Amazon just seem to become more scummy by the day

I find myself in elasticsearch's side why do people het mad about the company trying to make money? its not the forst time amazon has undercut competitors