The Tattered Prince's Secret Identity | ASOIAF Theory

What is his horses name?

A horse cloak is called a caparsion

He’s very Dread Pirate Robertson

I’ve only read the books once so I don’t remember everything, but didn’t tatters have two hands?

This sounds nothing like Jaime Lannester, not from Pentos or a Prince

Jaime Lannester isn't a Prince, so plz explain

I always thought the idea behind The Tattered Prince was that he was the Dread Pirate Roberts of ASOIAF. When yhe last one was ready to move on, h picks his successor and trains them. Then the new Tattered Prince takes up the tatters.

Nah I can’t get behind this theory. There’s no way. People say the Tattered Prince is well past sixty. And I’m pretty sure he has 2 hands?

Really glad Martin did not go whit Jamie in the throne, because that would have been a vastly different world than Westeros considering Jamie is not even in the line of succession hell Cersie it not I’m even in the line of succession she just took the throne and D&D did not bother showing realistic reactions. After all if Jamie took the throne then the throne is meaningless and up for grabs for anyone. Hell Robert say on that throne whit a tenuous blood claim to the Targaryens Rhaelle was it

This could be Barristan. He is after all thrown out of the kings guard and wander essos

I will say GoT Jamie failes utterly, giving all his progress up for Cersei. That said i retrospect of course

As a Jamie Lannister parallell it does make me wonder that he did truly run from power, or merely desire their own path to power. I mean his ultimatum is to be given Pentos after all

It does make me wonder if someone knows of and wants to rend Illyrio and Varys' ploy in tatters. If that might be why he wants to gain Pentos. It is interesting to consider if nothing else

Just me or does Joe sound like Mordecai (the blue bird)? 🤔🤔🤔

I thought this was gonna be similar to Tyrion being a time travelling Fetus theory when you first mentioned jaime

Although this would be a horrible way for the brienne jaime storyline to go, it’s kind of heartwarming that they would still be close no matter what

He can't be Ser Barristan, he is already with Daenerys, maybe a bastard or a Valyrian descendant. Part of the Blackfyre

He hanged the Lannister outlaws along with the rest. “It felt like justice.”

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Could be the grandson of Aerion Brightflame? Or could even be the grandson of Dareon the Drunken? Both of them were Egg’s brothers, and so these men would be considered princes 🤴…

Seems like he’d be a great dark souls boss 🤣

Excellent

This is a brilliant video. Instant subscribe and favorite. Thank you, i feel like I knew this but never put the pieces together

You make some great, but I don't think Jamie being the Tattered Prince offering to fight for Daenerys, or any Targaryen in fact, really makes sense after his first hand experience of Targaryen tyranny.
So in my mind GRRM would have cooked up this 5 years in the future version of Jamie whose become the Tattered Prince, but whose he's fighting would be pretty different, then GRRM scraps the time leap, keeps the Tattered Prince plot but changes it around so he's offering to fight for Daenerys. That seems like unnecessary work for such a minor character to me, but then again maybe that level of work is the reason GRRM hasn't released a mainline ASOIAF book since 2011

I don’t buy this theory firstly Jamie’s hand is chopped off before the five year gap also what reason would’ve Jamie left westoros for and lastly 5 years is not enough time to cross the narrow sea become the next prince of Pentos and set up a successful free company with many victories. Travelling in GOT takes long enough Jamie would need at least 10-20 years to do the things you’ claim he’s done in 5. Also btw oath keeper is definitely not worth more then all the gold Castlety Rock just no. How on earth did you come to that conclusion?

Tatters lacks one hand?
Also, Tatters is in his sixties... how is this to be Jaime ?

Not Gerion, naw?

Glad I never bothered with this dross Martin is a bit of a tool in my opinion, Anyone who adds an extra initial by changing his name to sound more like the Master J.R.R. Tolkien as to be a bit of a clown

I was thinking Tywin Lannister. Jamie was a good soldier, but not cold and ruthless like his father ✌️

IDK about anyone else but I play the MMO destiny 2 and now I am lowkey wondering if saint-14 with the whole grey pigion and tying bits of cloth on to his armor came before or after tatters was presented in the book. Well I have my weekend rabbit hole to go down 🤣

Tatters = Bobby B

Wouldn't it fit both timeline wise and canonically that it's Garlan Lannister?

I always thought the tat prince was Tyrion’s long lost uncle

i think tatters might be a secret blackfire through the female line

Great video!The only other remixed character that I know off was Darkstar (a dark version of Ned Dayne?).

If it hadn't been for the fact that Tyrion had med the Tattered Prince, I'd be open to the idea that he was actually Gerion Lannister, just older, nastier and more cruel, with very little left of Tyrions' jovial and funny uncle Gery.

Could the cloak be a reference to Saruman? He goes from being Saruman the White to Saruman of the many Colours

Aww, I wanted him to be Rhaegar

This is brilliant.

I always thought he may have been a Velaryon just not of driftmark.

I forget the guys name but could he not be the Lannister explorer relative rather than Jaime?

I think he might be a great grandchild of Daemon Targaryen…

He's a blackfyre

I also think another part of the beef with Jaime and Ned comes from the fact that Ned killed Ser Arthur. His boyhood hero. I’m sure he senses some bullshit with it.

He's obviously Rheagar everyone. Duh... 😆

I literally been on your channel for hours now. Not too many can hold my attention. Keep them coming.

I never realized about the reused character tropes, and it makes me wonder who else might have a similar setup.

Victarion as the dimwitted warrior begrudgingly following orders in order to marry Daenerys does sound a bit similar to Jorah.

Aurane Waters and Salladhor Saan both abandon their oaths to their respective monarchs when the going got tough, and turned pirate.

A bit of a stretch, but Alys Karstark as the highborn lady running to the Night’s Watch away from a political marriage does sound like something Shireen might have faced if she were a few years older.

I think it's Maegor Targaryen.

i mean to be named prince of Pentos you have to have blood of Valyria in you. Also Tattered Prince speaks in high valyrian. which I don't think even essosi Valyrians do, but I might be wrong.

Even their age would give or less (It was said he is 62, Maegor would be 67. Knowing how much incognito Tatters is, why not even lie about his age a bit?).

Also the fact he always talks about what kind of rogue he is, I think it truly is the son of Brightflame.

A Prince you say, a King's son🤔