Dark Season 3 Ending Explained | Netflix

We finally made it to the origin in Dark's final season. Let me know what you thought about the ending and any questions you have.

I’m years late but finally got around to watching it. Without a doubt top 10 shows of all time. I preface with that because I think they broke their own grandfather paradox rule in order to wrap up the show. Once the Time Machine is created it can’t be undone because in order to do so a Time Machine must exist. No matter what Jonas and Martha did HG tannhaus family had to die similar to the reason Jonas couldn’t kill himself. Time wouldn’t allow it. They could go back a million times and watch that poor family die a million different ways. It’s exactly the final reveal of the HG Wells Time Machine novel. Though I loved the show I think a better ending would have been they are tragically destined to live in these loops forever. Now that would have been DARK.

That means martha is not only aunt but great great grand daughter of Jonas ?? 😂

CLEFT LIP
AUNT MARTHA

Overall it was brilliant. I watch the last half of the last episode periodically because it is really so beautiful. The two lovers dissipating into nothingness.
However, the last scene with Hannah made me recall something from my philosophy of religion class. We were studying Judaism and whether there is a soul and a heaven in that belief system. I remember the rabbi who came to our class relaying a saying from Judaic philosophy, "In god's world nothing precious is truly lost." It makes you wonder, does the last scene mean that a Jonas and Martha will be born in the origin world so that they are not lost? They did, in fact, sacrifice their existence, so maybe they were not lost. (However, you cannot trust me, my ancestors came from Germany in the 1890's and I am thoroughly indoctrinated in US culture. In German culture such a happy thought might ruin the show. I don't know because my German classes were 40 years ago.)

none this happens without Mikel going back.

I wish Martha and Jonas lived at the end and was the apocalypse real ?

My question is the following: if the two worlds were created in ‘86, how did Agnes, Noah, Tronte and others exist if in order for them to exist, Bartosz should have already been in the past? I guess the events from 1986 had to happen until 2020 before the loop started, since that’s when Bartosz travelled in the past and procreated.

Hey can anyone please explain to me.. In the 3rd season the finale episode when both martha &jonas went to the original world and Jonas witnessed the young alt martha.. And then after on the bridge he told Alt martha that he saw her and she said "It was you" ? Then how it is possible that this thing was happening the very first time.. It means both of them have previously gone to the original world na.. Only then young Martha can see Jonas

I’ve been thinking about this “creation of two worlds” part (how they split) and I realised something.
The only difference in alt-world(Martha’s world) is that Mikkel never travelled through the tunnel so Jonas doesn’t exist.
Then I thought about the fact-what started everything in Jonas’ world. And it was this - Mikkel travelling theough the tunnel and consequently people trying to find him, travelling as well … and Jonas sending himself a letter that his father left and the map and telling himself about time travel.
And then I remembered what Mikkel said. Jonas BROUGHT him through the tunnel. Which means Jonas is the one who started everything in his world by his free will to do this. (He caused the existence of himself so basically he created himself knowingly).
And then followed by Martha also telling herself about time travel (her older self sent Jonas to get her from her world). And she already had that apple travelling machine. She provoked Jonas with the apple to follow her and tricked him into having a baby (see the parallel with the Biblical story) and then tried to keep the baby alive. Causing all this events to happen and the world to be created and keep existing.
So older versions of Jonas and Martha were actually responsible for creation of the worlds (I mean as a consequence of Tannhouse opening the portal - he made it possible - so we can look at him as this sort of like God figure) and older versions of Jonas and Martha = Adam and Eve. So Adam and Eve were responsible for the creation of the worlds (by influencing their younger selves and ensuring their own existance) but God made it possible. There’s also the apple and baby and all that.
I think Eve’s storyline is particularly interesting because we don’t get to know, how all the time travelling developed in her world and how everyone was created (like Ulrich, Agnes …).
And in the end everything is stopped by the younger selves of Adam and Eve.
And Claudia plays the role of “knowledge” or “consciousness” impersonalised. We could also say that she gives then the knowledge about their free will in the situation. She gave Adam and Eve knowledge about where their actions would lead them so their young selves would stop it. I just thought about how we can compare her to Jesus (if we are doing a comparison to the Bible). The young versions would stop it and clear the world of “sin”.
And she also sacrifices herself in the process but survives.
That’s my comparison to the Biblical version.
I’m not Christian but I thought that might be interesting.

Oh and another little part. As I said before if we compare Tanhaus to God (because he created the tunnel and subsequently enabled the worlds to create themselves) - on the tunnel it says “Let there be light” which is how in the Bible God creates the world.

the 3rd season was the weakest I have to say.

In the end it all goes back to the way it was before the Dark Globaalists and their Agendas

Thats funny that Adam couldn't do away with Martha.

Sadly the pulled off the "Mass Effect 3" type of ending... where it's just a giant contradiction. In this case, it's called the grandfather paradox.

Interestingly enough though, Claudia that doesn't value "life" very much (so much so that she kills her alt world version and various other people) doesn't ask Jonas and Martha (also killers) to simply kill the Tannhaus Scientist that created the time machine in the first place in the original world which was the absolute most secure way for it never to exist and instead asked them to save his son and family!! I mean, of course it makes for a less "Dark" and much better and honorable story but it's not as if Claudia, Jonas or Martha cared about a single life in the great scheme of things. Beside, if someone's destiny always remains the same eventually then why it's NOT the case in the origine world where Tannhaus' son and family doesn't end up dying later on and thus pushing the scientist to create Time Travel in the first place no matter what? That's also pretty important since it begs the question: Is our DESTINY entirely already written no matter which path we take or do we have Free Will? Personally i believe that Past, Present and Future already exist and that everything is Pre-written. Free will sounds like fun but also wishful thinking, lol...

Not sure the show explained why they could suddenly traverse the multiverse and not just time though.

Glad you explained the family trees. Makes so much sense why so many ppl can't exist now. I just didn't catch the infinity trio hooking up during the show.

I think it's like this: in Jonas's world, both Mikkel and Michael exist however in Martha's world as there is no need for Michael, Eva uses the apocalypse to ensure her world is intact. Also, Katarina's name should be different as we saw Katarina got her name from her mother's role model(!) who was actually time-travelling Hanna. Also also, it is more likely that since Martha and Jonas did not exist, the Unknown did not exist and so t(he)y did not pressure Winden mayor to permit nuclear plantation (hence the blackouts) which is why Regina did not get cancer as well.

Critics are not talking about how time (in a loop space) in dark is actually a whole character in itself. The show personified past, present and future events and people in it, as if those things live on independently in an eternal vacum of time and space. This was mentioned in a few episodes. Remember when the person in the 1800's said that people don't die in reality (also the lady narrator mentions this) that they actually stay eternally in a moment in time forever. So in theory, the loop was never undone. Maybe the loop was excised from one reality but not erase from the memory of time itself. After all the infinity loop sign is on top of the characters tree map.

Only one thing stikl confuse my mind, how the heck is old claudia still alive?

I just really don't understand why they had the scene of them seeing their childhood selves. To me it more clearly implicates some kind of omniscient god in the story and that sorta muddies it.

The biggest mystery in this show: Why is it always raining???

If Jonas and Martha stop the accidence, then Tannhaus has no motivation to create the time travel machine, then there are no two worlds of Jonas and Martha; so who are the one can come back time to stop this accidence?

Just binged the entire series and as a physicist I was very impressed with the merging of pop-science with science fiction! Extremely well done!

Is the 1954 abortionist, Mrs. Obendorf, related to the missing boy from 2019, Erik Obendorf?

A perfect ending to a well thought out show. The plot twists were insane and the acting was absolutely astonishing.
A solid 10/10 for me.

Season 3 got so confusing for me but I really like how they say that it didn't matter as it was just perpetuating the loops and that the Origin world was what mattered in the final episodes. That they were able to pull that off and not make it feel cheap, really made me happy with the ending. I was a bit confused by the final scene with the friends at the dinner table. I was thinking that some other people were suppose to be there, but after looking up some articles found the reason why they weren't there. Overall an excellent series. I feel it's like some sort of modern Grimm fairy tale of sorts. Somewhat refreshing that they just put some topics most American creators tend to avoid like incestuous relationships and kids getting murdered as major parts of the story.

My unpopular opinion is that the ending was complete crap. The first season was the best and then show became convoluted, repetitive and full of intense crying scenes that don't mean anything. There's nothing clever or good about the ending.

It also makes no sense for the characters to disappear "when" Jonas and Martha "change" the past. It already happened, didn't it? Why wasn't Helga's head fine "until" Ulrich went back to beat him up? The first season made sense, by season 3 they forgot how time works - the past has already happened!

Or did none of these realities exist in the first place? In which case, what was the point? It's a lame cop-out. Someone else could also just invent time travel later, including Tannhaus. There's no resolution to the immoral choices so many characters made. You know Hannah's gonna cause more problems in the new (is it new or was it always there?) reality.

I dont feel so good...

Maybe regina didn't get cancer in the origin world because the nuclear plant didn't exist in that world?

All well and good, Pete. However, there most certainly an apocalypse. What was it?

they could have made love with each other but they hold hands instead

The real question is: When will Dark end???

I was left with the idea that Jonas is born in the end leading to it all starting again......

I actually expected Claudia to be tricking Adam one last time and Jonas and Martha are actually in the origin world to cause the crash so that Tannhaus creates the Time machine and the Worlds becoming the cause and effect of the infinite time loop.

Tannhaus is the reason for creation of the worlds because of his family's death which in turn is the reason for his family's death causing an infinite loop.

Why did they kill all those kids with that weird machine?

and I thought Mr Robot was confusing.

I believe that even after the ending, there's still some sort of a loop going on:
... -> Tannhaus' son dies -> Tannhaus invents time travel -> Jonas and Martha eventually prevent the accident -> time travel is never invented -> Jonas and Martha never exist -> they couldn't have prevented the accident in the first place -> accident happens (happened?) -> Tannhaus invents time travel -> ....

i was just disappointed that nothing until the last 2 episode mattered. everything else was pointless. the executed kids, helge in any timeline, the power plant, the special investigator in season 3. also a lot of questions werent answered like where the real aleksander köhler is from or why the longer the show went on literally EVERYONE can timetravel willy nilly. in the beginning half of the time you travel by going through the cave and the other half with the machines. at the end the cave doesnt matter at all because everyone has the golden ball thingies.

I watched all 3 seasons continuously in a 6 day binge, so I apologize if my facts are wrong, but didn’t the portal (the one accessed through the doors under the power plant) always exist in all 3 worlds, meaning time travel was always possible regardless of the ‘86 time machine Tannhaus built to save his son?

Dark is similar to 12 monkeys. In my opinion, 12 monkeys is better.

Why has Claudia disappeared too? She does not belong to the knot...

I think Bartosz should not exist too, despite his parent existing are not caused by time traveller....

The theory is this, since no time machine, there is no nuclear plant, ulrich and kath not exist, therefore regina and alex will not met in the first place (he saved regina from bullied by Ulrich and kath in the wood.) This is proved by the last scene of the series, Regina is still single.

Am I right?

You notice Regina doesn’t get cancer in the Origin world because the nuclear plant was never built . Brilliant show!

In episode 1, season one the first full shot of claudia’s wall shows a red line connecting Michael and Mikkel. The only red line on the board and its barely notieable. It’s crazy now I’m rewatching it seeing all the foreshadowing in plain sight that you never would have noticed before

How katherina's cave map end up with Jonas?

Apocalypse happened in june 27 2020, tannhaus accident was in june 21 2986, how is it the same date ...??

But doesn't the fact that there are always two different paths to take indicative that the loop is actually still preserved in a reality and the finale was us viewing the timeline where the loop is closed? The fact that Martha remembers seeing Jonas in the tunnel from when she was young shows that this has happened before and was not the first time as Claudia believed.