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Don't know what is worst....These strict judgmental lives that were ruined or the high body count freedoms of today...that ruin lives
ОтветитьTHE VICTORIANS WERE THE GREATEST HYPRICITS WHO EVER LIVED YOU COULD HAVE THE PERFECT WIFE AND FAMUILY WHILE YOU COULD SLIP AROUND THE CONER WELL OUT OF SIGHT AND BUGGER A ASS
Ответить"Stifling corsets"? You prefer everything hanging down your body misshapen? My grandma was born in 1907, so she could recall the Victoria era, and told one young woman at the time that she would have been happier living in that time (and the woman was born in 1958) because of the way MEN acted compared to today!
ОтветитьVery interesting.
ОтветитьAfter the “talk” w my Mom, I was left utterly shocked and in complete disbelief. I had seen what a boy looked like and just could not fathom that was a thing i could ever bring myself to do. I was around 10 I guess. Lol
ОтветитьEdith Bunker said on all in the family, her mother told her she was going to have to something in her marriage and she wasn't going to like it. Edith thought she was talking about the laundry cause she hated laundry. Edith wasn't brave enough to tell her mom she liked it!!!!! Can you see Edith Bunker liking sex😮
ОтветитьMy Aunt Faye was getting ready to go get married and she grabbed my grandmother in the bathroom and said ,"momma I'm going to be getting married in a couple of hours. Ain't there something you want to tell me?" Grandma thought about it a fee minutes and said, "well, i guesd you'll find out like i did". This was 1949 and s true story😊
ОтветитьChaperones are not such a bad idea, even now. A young relative of mine as attacked by a church elder in the church basement. My dad would not allow my brother to camp out with the scouts without my dad going to keep an eye out to keep my brother safe. Older relatives recognize predatory behavior that a young person may not. The societal strictures may not be as rigid as during the Victorian age, but allowing young ones to mature without being preyed upon is always on issue. Someone older and wiser and watching can prevent many an unfortunate act.
ОтветитьQueen Victoria was a trailblazer! Women NEVER proposed to men then but Victoria saw a man that she really wanted as a husband, Prince and a partner.
ОтветитьYeah it’s amazing women were not told what to do…
ОтветитьHow are the upper crust introductions done today?
Balls, business introductions, country clubs, cotillions,
high profile dating agencies,
parties, etc.?
Queen Victoria reigned from 1837 to 1901. Many of the people depicted here are dressed in fashions of the Regency period well before this date - Jane Austen died in 1817. There was a distinct difference in social mores between the two periods. A few of the costumes looked more Edwardian, from the early years of the 20th century.
ОтветитьThe life of the rich in that era is called 'Victorian.' The poor were however living in a 'Dickensian' age.
ОтветитьAhh, the old adage.. The chase is better than the catch.
ОтветитьHello Theodore. Nice to hear you narrating something other than a quiz show.
ОтветитьI'm 72 and my aunt told me that "men use women to dump their filthy garbage into"....YIKES!!
Ответитьi saw our neighbor's german shepard dog have sex, but i snuck the book my mom bought and read the book the GODFATHER about the mafia and the scene with sonny corleone having sex standing up against a door with a bride's maid at his sister's wedding, clued me in, lol i think i was 9 or 10 yrs old
ОтветитьThank you for sharing this history and yes as interesting.
ОтветитьMy Italian grandmother told me not to have sex before marriage because it was bad enough to have to do it when you were.
ОтветитьI remember reading about a couple, the husband came home from work, after a couple of years marriage and his eife noticed he was really ruffked up.
Eventually he explained that the men at work were ribbing him about stuff in the marital bed and then was tellingvhim that the man puts his thing between the womans kegs and theres a hole and other stuff, ie detailing everything about sex.
The couple were shocked and dpoke about it all night, as to whether they wer just pulling his leg or if it were true.
About a week later, they cane yo the conclusion that it probably was more true than not, seeing as she had never got oregnant, but neither wanted to even try it, ss it sounded so animalistic and disgusting.
Their marriage lasted about 70 years.
Byron and Austen weren't Victorian!
ОтветитьHistorically marriage for love has been a luxury rather than the rule. Marriage has been a financial decision by families to advance, preserve or transfer property and prestige. Even having children was primarily an economic decision.
To this day in western countries marriage, while often based romantically is legally primarily a financial contract which is also the reason why the top reason for domestic dispute and divorce is also financial.
Women of the past have just as much culpability in the misery of women in marriage as men. Telling their daughters they have to endure anything for another person’s pleasure is disgusting. And telling them nothing at all is just as bad. Women have a clit for a reason. An old shrew might be offended by mention of female anatomy.
ОтветитьOne only has to glean what ailment caused Victoria and multitudes of others deaths during thus period...
Tertiary Syphilis
More the need for chaperones and discretionary oversight than any etiquette requirements.....
Many a bride was given a gift of death on her wedding night.... untreatable during this time in history.
Rules of etiquette that prevailed right up to The Pill.
Victorianism prevails even today..... ignorance of human sexuality runs rampant throughout society today.....
...thus keeping HIV, hepatitis and a myriad of diseases front row and center.
Society will ALWAYS make a game of human sexuality..... just observe the gender krap being played two hundred years later...
The gadgets have changed but as a species, we are no further along than the knuckle draggers thousands of years previous...... all due to 'society', through governments and religions.....
What a crying shame.
The wedding night was a piece of cake compared to giving birth!
ОтветитьI am a professional who builds historically accurate (anthropological) costume ensembles. About half your visual examples, especially all the Jane Austen references are Regency (considered 1800 to Victorian start 1837) and some even 18th century (although I give a nod to the replay of the "Dolly Varden" style you show that the Worth company brought back), NOT Victorian! You've even got a bunch of 1910 images, and that horrid scene in Bridgerton which suggests the Regency stays (not a corset yet) were for waist cinching. Sorry. Couldn't watch it because it is soo mixed up.
ОтветитьI read somewhere that as a sovereign Queen, Victoria had to propose to Albert, that it wasn’t her choice but the mandate of her advisors.
ОтветитьI like the dance card idea. We should bring it back.
ОтветитьBook/ film Room with a View - chaperone
ОтветитьMy grandmother really suffered on her wedding night.... My grandfather beat her so badly..... She was so scared she had no idea what was going on...... Her mother never told her what To expect...
ОтветитьMy mum was married twice! Which means, she's only been with 2 men. However, none of them ever saw her naked! She was born in 1937!
ОтветитьFlowers were the emojis of their time.
ОтветитьAnd you think dating is complicated nowadays...
ОтветитьWhat kind of channel names itself the diary of Julius Caesar and is about Victorian England?
ОтветитьHuman should be better than animals. Normal wedding night ( without alcohol or drug or entitlement arrogant ) with honest n respect communication ( not looking down on each other ) can figure out the right way to explore the special meaning of the marriage between husband n wife. We have a saying that if you don’t make your wife happy your house whole including husband will not find happiness. A little kindness of humble heart in wedding night can go a long way. Trust on that.❤️👍
ОтветитьMy maternal grandparents were born in the victorian era. My Grandfather was the illegitimate son of a member of the English aristocracy. When the Lord of the manor impregnated his mum (my great grandmother) he didn't marry her (because of the difference in social class) but he gave her a cottage on his land and he took care of her and my grandfather. She was lucky because usually, when an aristocrat impregnated a servant girl, she was sent home 'in disgrace'. My grandfather didn't inherit the family wealth due to his being a bast**d. My grandfather moved to London where he met my grandmother. She was Irish and still a teenager. She had come to London from Ireland to look for work and start a new life. My grandfather said that she was the most beautiful girl he had ever seen. Life was very tough for them. They had ten children and two of them died when they were babies. One of their daughters was my Mother. She inherited my Irish gran's beauty, with black hair and green eyes.
ОтветитьMy favorite chaperone is the Irish gentleman in "The Quiet Man"
ОтветитьI never got the talk from my mom. Learned about things in school presentations & from friends & movies.
ОтветитьThey were not all like this i have my grandmother's nightdress from her first night hand made by her mother.neck to toe job .She wore in once and never wore a nightie again.
ОтветитьA better time than today.
ОтветитьMy husband and I fell asleep on our wedding night. 😂 We woke up the next morning and were like „Oooops, we must have been pretty tired.“ 😮😅
ОтветитьI disagree that VIctorian era was more difficult for romance than now. Women are what makes love a troublesome matter. They're driven by hormones not rationality and establishing a relation with one is more a random act, and strike of luck, or bad luck, and follows the path of a fireball that cannot be planned or predicted. But what makes it insane is that women will pretend to be rational and logic when they are incapable of either. Experienced men will agree and know how to avoid the many traps of women.
ОтветитьNo mention of how most of these people were exposed to multiple contagious, incurable diseases, such as tuberculosis and syphilis which led to premature death, and no mention of women dying terribly young in childbirth, often still in their teen years. All discussion of the surface etiquette and beauty but nothing about the true horrors of the Victorian Age. Of all the painted images, at least some should have shown the graveyard.
Ответить“There's rosemary, that's for remembrance.” from Hamlet. Hundreds of years before the Victorian Era, the immortal bard knew his floriography!
ОтветитьI appreciate the need for images…but the Regency/Jane Austen is before Victorian times, and the Elizabethan material is 300 years off…not to be a nit picker. But it does not help your storytelling credibility.
ОтветитьIgnaz semmelweis is my hero. Love that he gets a mention.
ОтветитьA fascinating era. I would not have done well in that time.
I wish I knew how many of these social constraints applied to Americans, for example in Pennsylvania, in the mid 19th century. Were they just as strict, or did Americans have their own moral code that differed in some respects from the moral code in England? For example, did young women and men in courtship always have to have a chaperone, were their letters more expressive, did they use flowers as symbolism for their feelings, etc.?
Ladies, at 58 years old, fooling around is more trouble than it worth!
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