Air Nations in War Thunder EXPLAINED: Part 4 - Italy & France | War Thunder Plane Countries Guide

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as someone who mains the Etendards they are a very decent and competent support fighter and not just a CAS aircraft and again like as said for the F8U for air combat but if you give it a try and learn to exploit others speed then it can be a absolute menace to those thinking its a free kill.

The P-47 is first and foremost a great FIGHTER..

I love the SM.91. I wish it wasn't put down to rank 2, or else I'd use it for some of my daily missions or trying to have fun grinding events

I just started playing War Thunder and picked the French tree.......

We are rivals

Good, now make the same review for sweden and Israel tech tree

Thanks you so much for videos like this! Its almost impossible to find videos about low tier planes, but as a new player i find them very useful. Thanks a lot

Sweden??

Thx for explaning the france aviation tech tree, now i just wait to know if sweden is worth using

Gonna have to update
The beginner friendliness rankings so far
1. USA
2. Germany
3. China
4. UK
5. Italy
6. Japan
7. USSR

8. France

Thanks for part 4 these videos are always a pleasure to watch

Re 2000 series (all planes with re 20xx in them) are pretty much just for support (they're not good)

Now, my quick input on the French tree.
Early tiers 1 and 2 is not that bad. They don’t master anything, but they are also not bad in anything. American tree is great rank, especially for mixed battles (F4U7 for the win baby).
Early jets now…
Ouragan barougan are great at 7.7. Not the best at air superiority, but still very much usable. Now, they suffer more than others in uptiers. And that’s the same for all other low tier jets. They scale in battle ratings because they are technically better than the previous French jets, but they don’t scale as well against other nations counterparts. The French equivalent to the mig 15, which I think is the 452C or maybe the muster IV, aren’t even close to being as good as the mig.
However, they are still very decent for CAS. Not the best bomb load out, but they can bomb and defend themselves pretty well.
On my part, I used to love French 9.0 to 9.3, but like all nations that aren’t Russia or the US, you’ll have to face f104s, mig21 and 30g missiles, which is not great for subsonic aircraft’s without flares. Étendard IVM is solid in ground, and can defend itself against similar 9.0-9.3 (the important bit being similar, as it is, like most at this br, left in the dust behind supersonic f104s and mig21s). The vautours aren’t worth it anymore, especially without the air spawn. Consider this plane dead.
Mirage IIIs and 5 now… it recommend only the 3E. The 3C and 5 don’t have flares, which is a death sentence at 10.0. The mirage 5 can be used for CAS in some manners, but the Super Étendard and Jaguar are better at it. The mirage IIIE isn’t the best, but is very usable, after the pretty steep learning curve. The mirage F1s are solid picks I think today. And they should be even better when the top tier will go up one extra BR, keeping them away from to many uptiers against f16s and MiG 29s. The magic 2s are a joy, definitely the best IR missiles below 12.0. The super 530 F isn’t great, but hopefully one day Gaijing will manage to actually implement the counter counter measure of the missile making it much, much better. Mirage 2000s are almost god tier, just below the f16c and MiG 29 SMT/G, and the combination of the 2000D and 5F, one being a bomber and the other one being classified as a fighter, might make the most bonkers CAS lineup. For the very low price of about 1200 SL, you can basically delete the entire enemy ground force, even if 1 or 2 pantsir are sitting around, thanks to a total of 4 of probably the best laser guided ground missiles, 5 guided bombs, and 5 dumb bombs, all of that controlled thanks to 2 great thermal pods designators.


Edit : special note on the vautour IIN, which is a stupidly bad, yet fun aircraft. At 8.3, nothing can kill you, and you won’t kill anything either, except the 1 or 2 times you actually wipe someone out of the sky with a lucky radar missile shot. Truly a joy

Great video. I'm waiting for video about Sweden. :D

Wait the French F8E gets no Countermeassures?

I hate italy or i just dont like props i dont remember where i had a prop plane with good speed and turn rate or iam just a piece of sh*t pilot.

Nice presentation video but you'r struggling so hard to maintain a french accent all the time, that at the end it's became unintelligible :s

when sweden guide

The french conclusion is the best of the serie:-))

Audio quality much improved from last video, i approve 👍

The Italian 50s are strong especially the air belt

Are u from Slovakia? SKdoger?

Yea i agree the sm91 is great. Also the AA nords on the g91-r1 are great it help the lack of firepower I personally really like using the r1 I think it's great.

He forgot the Re.2005 :(

As a proud and unapologetic Italian main, I approve! Couldn't have said it better, in fact.

Low-tier and mid-tier props are some of the best fun you'll ever have in Air RB, and once you master them, you'll feel it like never before. Fighters are lean, attackers are mean, and bombers are... okay. I think they're actually pretty good, just very poor defenses. Speed and bomb load made them very smooth and simple grinding.

Jets are unfortunately not as good, but we do get some interesting options, including some not added yet, like the AMX ground attacker. I had one hell of a nightmarish time spading all of the planes up to top-tier though, let me tell you about the F-104S stock grind before it had countermeasures...

F-16A ADF won't stay one of the best for long, but it'll eventually get AIM-120s. AV-8B gives us AIM-9Ms, so there's that. Typhoon... someday!

Is Leo a Dutch/Belgian guy doing a French accent?

I love my sm.91 the problem it has is the fragility as soon as a stray bullest touches you sligtly the plane falls apart

And now in the next years when we're get the f22 and the Rafale. This is where the fun will truly begin.

you cant JSUT fly AwAy when there is a Mig29 or F16 behind you the F104 is the worst plane at 11.3

I love the italian tech tree. I am currently subjecting myself to hell and grinding out the G.91 preproduction with only module research bonuses. so far I am 25k in so I am a quarter of the way there without doing anything.

I feel it should've been mentioned to any prospective players looking to get into France that for tiers 1-2 you may get 20 mil cannons (only 60 rounds), but only ONE per plane mounted through the engine. I'm actually amazed this wasn't mentioned. Trigger discipline is absolutely paramount to your success with these planes!

yet again the best french plane is not actually french... i hate this game

What, like your French accent is about as good as the domestic French aircraft in tier 1 thru 4? It is a good thing the US was there to step in........AGAIN or the French tech tree would have been mighty thin indeed!

You didn't mention the Re. 2005 but damn thanks for making Italy intresting for new people :D

plane go brrrr

Just a note for any new players, "support fighter" is usually a code word for "its not very good"

It’s just factual truth that France has best aviation in the entire world fight me.

this man has the guts to claim “there’s nothing interesting in tier I” … the fuckin’ CR.42 is in there you crackhead are you NUTS
THATSA ITTTA IMMA BEAT YOU WITHA MYA SALAMI, ARREVADERCHI

I love you

Italy is a good Nation, but the aircraft keep getting moved up for no real reason, for me I think the C205s are all equals to the 109-G2 and the Typhoon which are at 4.3, and for a more extreme case the re2005 at 6.0 despite it having the flight performance of a 4.3 fighter(Ie. Spit Mk9 or A6M3 otsu)

Get the french yak-3 for grinding the french tree since the sales. You'll not suffer.

I have been checking nearly daily for over a month for this video

I feel crazy, never figured out how to actually get the use out of the SM.91 because I'm constantly beamed out the sky when I use it or 3 people spawn planes as soon as I shoot through their roofs

This One came alot quicker than expected

J'ai bien aimé l'accent.
Great video !

Yes what I was waiting for, now to see if italy really is a purgatory or if I just suck