Waves Cosmos VS ADSR Sample Manager . Shootout Review, does AI mean More Better... Best Workflow?

Does cosmos sync in time with your DAW? so you can trial samples with whatever you are working on?

After using both, I can say that ASDR is really obscure about what samples it displays. You might as well not even use it as a sample manager for what good it does you. If you want to do a lot of housekeeping with your samples, then I'd say it's perfect for you.
Cosmos on the other hand, tagged everything at a correct 85% success rate, (some bass samples were showing as a pad, and visa versa) but overall, even thought it took longer, (a sign it was actually analyzing each sound, and not just saying f*ck it) Cosmos has found a permanent place where I can actually use my 150 GB of samples in Production.

Does anyone know if there is something that works well for foley samples to help tag those?

I migrated to Cosmos because of one MAJOR advantage. It actually analyzes the sound and tags it accordingly. If you have a file called Big Whack, ADSR will not know what to do with it, since the name is not easily tagged. Same for unnamed files as you mentioned. If you have a file called Silky Smooth, Cosmos will discover that it is a Saxophone and tag accordingly. If you search for Saxophone in ADSR, it will only find files named Saxophone. The sample manager that can best identify and tag samples (regardless of name, misspellings, etc), is what I prefer. This is particularly true if you do not want to maintain a meticulous and well-organized folder structure. Personally, I hope ADSR gains some AI and makes this more apples to apples. YMMV. Cheers

THanks for finally breaking it down simply and completely ... took me an hour of not-so-helpful videos titled exactl the same

ADSR is great but it crashes too much for my liking

I have brought synonom and samplism on black friday sales.... got COSMOS and ADSR free... COSMOS so far seems the worst to me just because it constantly rescaning my files and using a bunch or memory on my M1 Mac.... samplism is the best so far...

I left ADSR for Cosmos because ADSR kept saving rendering files for samples I auditioned in my DAW. It was annoying, but I wonder if Cosmos will ever have the auditioning feature like ADSR.

so far I'm loving adsr and also pair it with XO love the midi export funcution in xo but adsr works pretty well i mean It takes quite long to analyze the samples but once it's done it worked well ...

..yes cosmos is amazing, BUT adsr have ableton link and it works perfect with new logic x version its amazing to find acapellas or loops instantly in the project...regards

Thanks! Very usefull!

I got a 8TB terrabyte harddrive and i just started analyzing with Waves COSMOS 😭

how adsr scan keys?
i have 1k of mp3 song to chop and it scan only 50-60 songs key

Using both here.

It took me a while but I loaded each of my sample folders as a library. This made the updates a lot faster. I then loaded Waves CR8 sampler plugin and that opens Cosmos in my DAW as with ADSR. ADSR crashed a few times and that made me too nervous to continue using it. Thanks for the video.

Since Cosmos isn’t a sample player, I can’t even really compare the two.
ADSR is far more useful to me…

I've Had cosmos for some time now, I honestly don't think its super useful. xo is way better for drums. Cosmos is incredibly inaccurate and slow. As a producer, its good to separate drums from tonal one shots and samples and loops, textures, etc. The point of having a 3rd party file manager outside of your computers filing system is for speed, being able to explore your options with ease and finding inspiration more quickly. Being able to save things you like into collections without having your files all over the place and not having to duplicate and rename things just so you can keep track of the source of your files. Ai will probably never be that useful when it comes to Loops, samples, and drum loops. xo and any other programs like it are best used for one shots (Drums and possibly tonal one shots). What seems to be the best thing I've done is to have a folder for:

1. Drum stash (literally just drums, rip your kits apart so there's only drums, especially if you're using xo so it doesn't have to scan irrelevant items)

2. Samples/melodic loops, texture loops

3. Drum Loops (texture loops can go here too or you can even have a dedicated textures folder if you really use a lot of them)

4. Midi packs

5. Tonal One shots and Fx

The only folders that my xo scans are the ones in my drum stash (It's nice to be able to filter the exact drum kits and not just rely totally on the Ai and search bar)

Also, browsing and organizing in cosmos is just not a pleasure. It's a great idea but poorly executed. It kinda reminded me why I stopped using splice. The tags are not really that useful and its a pain to use when you know what you want but the system doesn't have the ability to narrow down to your exact needs. I'm interested in alternatives for cosmos which is why I'm here learning abut adsr. I don't need Ai for melody samples and drum loops. what I need is deep organizational capabilities and speed and pleasant browsing. And most importantly, I need something that integrates well with the way that I already have my files organized.

One last thing, Good luck using cosmos when you're not connected to the internet. Get ready to pull your hair out. That connecting to the cloud crap makes the program so much more wonky than it already is

I love your channel. I found a way to have ADSR scan for keys if you click the gear icon on the left side under database right under where it says what sound are you looking for at the bottom it says Rescan Keys after I clicked that I was able to see the key of each sample. The only problem I have had is after purchasing a new sample pack the application does not recognize the new folder added to my sample folder. If I click on it under my the my account icon it crashes. If anyone has a tip on how to solve that please reply. Needless to say ADSR is improving and its almost there. A few more bugs to fix and it will be #1 for sure.

iTunes is the best sample manager to me lol

I've had ADSR sample manager on 3 separate machines over approx 4 years and ALWAYS end up bailing on it because it's glitchy and laggy and loses my tags or crashes my DAW, to the point where I can't even carry out the DAW's recovery process successfully... Just got an M1 machine and have had no issues for a couple days, got really excited that I could finally use the bloody software, but nope, just crashed my now unrecoverable project. Have barely given cosmos a go after downloading it but it cannot be any buggier than ADSR

Rant aside, great video man! 😅

I'll stick with ADSR's sample manager. I'm extremely tired of all of this connecting to the cloud crap just to find and organize my samples.

I'd imagine this is waves way to cut down on their hacking.. A legit vs of waves central will render your ALTERNATE waves useless and cancel it

great video

I've just installed Cosmos and once I try and launch it I get a message ''COSMOS is connecting to sample database.This may take a few seconds.'' This is before I am asking it to look at any folders. The UI hasn't even opened. I just get a Cosmos search symbol on a black screen. So is it automaticaly searching my hard drive? This has been going for a couple of hours so far. Very frustrating.Not sure whether to leave it or not as I dn't know if it is supposed to be doing this for hours?

Cosmos also doesn't register samples that are larger than 45 seconds.

Thanks for this video.. Is it just me or does COSMOS not have subfolders? I can only important one folder at a time, or all at once, which is not what i want!

nice vid!

Good info as always here. Keep it up!

One-shots are relatively easy to analyze. How does Cosmos do with more complex samples and loops?