Deadly Belief | Burlington Air Express Flight 721

Deadly Belief | Burlington Air Express Flight 721

It's important to ask, "What's wrong with this picture?"

Similar to Crossair 3597. Unbelievably stupid flying not to heed the controller's warning.

Why do they think the pilots did not respond to Tower?

When I first read the title I thought it read Deadly BEEF instead of Deadly BELIEF

Ugh we do have mountains on or near approach and in these area’s we suggest that you do not drop below 1500’ until you have visual of ILS.

I used to work in San Diego with BAX, great group of people to work with... how sad...😢

Being used to more modern aircraft, going back to the old school layout of the 707 cockpit makes me think of a B-52 on a bombing run.

"Target in sight! Where the hell is Major Kong?"

rode many miles aboard 707s, grand ladies of the skies. back when if you flew, the whole passenger cabin was "first class". extremely expensive if you weren't military.

Three pilots and none of them noticed that the plane was below the glideslope. Very difficult to comprehend.

Hy Allec, could you make the Ramstein Air Show disaster ?

Two low altitude warnings from the tower ignored with no response was the last straw. Very sad. Thank you Allec

So sad this would happen on such a short flight (the two cities are about 200 miles apart) Looks like a lot of errors and non-responses here.

Also. The Flight Engineer SHOULD have been Monitoring the Approach and Not his panel nor the engine instrumentation. Especially when the crew were flying an ILS down to minima in poor visibility conditions. A Third pair of eyes from behind would likely have spotted the Captain’s mistakes and alerted him to them, as the First Officer had failed to do so. The crew’s poor CRM, the Captain’s failure to level off after intercepting the ILS Localiser had all culminated in putting the aircraft in an extremely dangerous position relative to the terrain. Neither Pilot seemed to be aware of the aircraft’s position relative to the Glide Slope, nor the correct altitude for that particular phase of the Instrument Approach. A totally avoidable accident brought about by poor situational awareness, poor X-Cockpit Standard “Call-outs”, Altimetry discipline and the failure of the First Officer to call for a “GO AROUND”, and/or the Captain’s failure to Initiate a “Go Around” once Situational Awareness was lost! “Push it up” is NOT a Standard Call and besides, the Go-Around was initiated far too late to avoid disaster. I’m not sure of the exact ILS Approach at the time, however many ILS Approaches CANNOT be conducted Without DME in CAT I or below conditions. I’m also assuming that this particular Boeing 707-300C was not equipped with, nor approved for, CAT II and CAT IIIA ILS Approaches.

Buffalo Airways flying in BAX colors.

Three people in the cockpit and no one is listening to the control tower???

Jesus!!! Was anyone in the cockpit not stoned???

Sad Comprehensive video- unnecessary loss of life.

The warning from the ATC should have been sufficient for them to realize that they were too low.

Quite similar with a more recent Airbus crash. The final reports are also quite similar: they point out crew's failures and briefly touch on the fact that no terrain warning sounded in the cockpit.
Ok, with the Airbus, the warning did sound, but after the impact...
Idk, but from my perspective, this was a contributing factor for both crashes. Maybe if those warnings would have sounded in the cockpit, the pilots of both aircraft might have managed to avoid the crash, or at least limit the damage...

Easy to ask, were these guys stupid or what ? But as a training captain (now retired).. I can attest that highly competent, highly experienced crews are able sometimes to become fixated having missed an essential task or instrument indication and continued in a frame of mind that all is ok.. I wonder if fatigue played any part in this event.

I’ve never seen an Alec video where it says, “NO RECOMMENDATIONS WERE MADE AFTER THE ACCIDENT”… 😢

The ATC did not know the correct range to the aircraft......they seriously need to up their game with Radars, in my opinion they should have an air defence radar for accurate tracking and search as these can tell precise altitude, speed, range as well as displaying ground hazards. They would also have far less trouble dealing with Ground clutter, they would have far greater range and would be a useful asset to have for the countries defence. Aircraft should also have a Laser based proximity sensor for detecting the ground in addition to the GPWS

This crew was obiously fatigued. Get good sleep, use standardized procedures and call-outs, and don't be afraid to speak-up and take away the airplane from a non-responsive Pilot Flying-- being nice and/or submissive will get everyone killed.

The crew info was skipped

Two urgent low altitude warnings from ATC and the captain does nothing? I don't get it. Pilot error crashes are usually baffling and caused by stupidity but this one ranks near the top.

Seems like this one is an example of not enough experience to be able to handle multiple things at once. RIP

can you make bek air 2100 because you dont have this video
and this bad

Perhaps the flight engineer was a professional engineer, and not actually a pilot. BN was a supplemental carrier mad may nit necessarily have a pilot in the third seat. Could make a difference.

No recommendations made? How about, “uhm, we recommend that you don’t fly below the glideslope.”

707-351C..A former Northwest aircraft. Just an FYI that you probably new already...

Was the aircraft repaired and returned to service?

The airline was also a railroad.

That plane was huge!

I was on that flight and we had no problem. I will make a YT video soon to show you what really happened. It will be shocking.

in 1987, KMCI had NO DME???? WOW....

Wow this brings back lots of memories I worked as an A&P mechanic for Southern Air Transport on burlington 707's. I was around 23 or 24 yrs old at the time flew several hundred hours and without much automation available then the cockpit could get very busy very quickly. Its so different now!

Do pilgrim airlines flight 458

Is this a new trend to not narrate the video?

I work on 707's (military versions) and there are many still alive and well right now, although most people don't realize it. Our newest one is a '64. And our fleet has many years left. At least 20.

Fundamental failures.

No recommendations??? How about Burlington Air Express audit the training of all their pilots ???

And that boys and girls is why modern planes have EGPWS.

i hate to be callous but this was 1000% the pilot & FO fault. the tower told them to clear to 2400 and maintain 2400 and they DID NOT. i don't feel bad at all about this crash.

This one is a mystery. The 2 most basic steps in performing an ILS approach are: (1) Established on the Localizer and (2) Glideslope captured. Kinda the point of the ILS

Bro Summon Railfan and avgeek

what kinda game is that