Ray Winstone talks about 'Scum'

Where is the 1977 version?

With due respect to Mr. Carlin himself I must disagree with his views. The 1979 film version was way better with Mick Ford as Archer and John Judd as Mr. Sands. Other minor characters also felt more genuinely institutionalised. ❤

He reminds me of Terry Venables, RIP el Tel.

I want no wot you mean big man love you ❤❤❤

I'm 52 was in detention centres lol was nt like that you don't talk fart eat sleep sit breath unless told simple n only hiding s were screws to lads age 14 to 17 I had my 16th bday in there lol 😅

And no association trust , had be 5 was n get red tie n badge n then that was crap lol 5 mins getting ping pong s for screws , n trust was whole place no exception s

I remember going to the cinema in 1979 to see 'Scum' when it first came out - and being totally blown away. It particularly resonated with me because one of my best mates ['Andy'] got sent to borstal for breaking into a chemists. [in fact, my twin brother and I were supposed to meet with him and our other mates - but couldn't make it! We didn't know they were planning to break into a chemists - but it was an incredibly lucky escape!]
'Andy' reminded me a lot of a young Ray Winstone - he was a very strong, powerful kid, as he worked in a butchers and developed his physique humping all the heavy carcasses about. He could really handle himself, and you didn't mess with him. Despite that, he was a sort of 'gentle giant' and would always shy away from trouble if possible.
But I remember him telling me when I went to see him after he was sentenced, that he just wanted to do 'his time' quietly and get on with the rest of his life. The problem was that being such a strong, powerful kid, the other inmates targeted him and gave him a lot of hassle.
So as with Winstone's character in the film, 'Andy' went after the 'Big Daddy', grabbed him and literally picked him up, held him against the wall and told him to back off! He never had any more trouble after that.

'Where's ya tool!'

Mary Whitehouse was a bigoted old bag best left on the scrap heap

Is there a way to see the original TV version?

Can the BBC version be seen anywhere or is it on the red list.

Except Borstal was nothing like the film portrayed.

Who cares ? It’s all shite we could have done without.

Ray's a legend.

Had no idea there was a series of Scum! No idea till this day.

I didn't know there was an original version of this film. Need to go track it down...

Pleased to see this clip, I have watched both versions and I have wondered which version Ray thought was better, now I know

The potting shed scene was absolutely brutal in every way

So that's why a lot of the lads looks really old

Scum is one of those films that young lads still watch with horror today and count their lucky starts they got rid of these places.

I was about 10 years old and lived in South London then,one of the things that stands out to me about Scum now is a lot of the attitudes,accent body language etc is so authentic it really takes me back..I had a number of mates that had older brothers in borstal, its quite poignant looking back one of my mates Darren's older brother was a single mum with terrible nerves and Darren and his mum used to joke affectionately about how clumsy the brother/son was because he was always having "accidents" and getting injuries in borstal falling over things etc..but even at that age me and my mate Darren would look at each other knowing full well these weren't accidents,they were pretty lies to protect his mum that she knew deep down weren't true

he had a missus in the tv version....

Scum summed up the late 70's and early 80's for me...brutal and unbelievably true.

Please explain the ending a riot then 3 main characters dragged bleeding but alive to cells then the warden talking of there deaths am confused

“I’m the daddy now! “

Pikeys?

Classic lines
vegetarians, I shit em
and Mecca, Mecca, we’ll have no more talk of Mecca

Ray has that rare magic quality that all actors want, a magnetic presence on camera. But his magnetism has another quality as well, menace...
A dark sense of a predator on the prowl, pent up fury barely contained. You feel that all his characters have a real history and that they carry heavy mental burdens.
There are many people out there wanting, craving, to be professional actors, but all the drama school training in the world won't give you a magnetic presence if it doesn't already exist.
Richard Burton had it too.

The first version has been removed from utube i think i cannot find it. 🇬🇧

Spot on 70s film ,

Great film plus ray was brilliant 👌 wheres ya tool ..what cucking tool class

As a young boy visited 2 of my friends in borstal in Northern Ireland it was 60s terrible experience.

horrible movie.

Geeza!

Crackin film still got the dvd 👍✋️

I watched it when I was 12 and it instantly made prison one of my worst fears. All twelve year olds from all backgrounds should watch this film.

i still remember the screw from 1976 in borstal called mr stricker his real name right bully and it was just like this film

Im an American and this is 1 of my favorite movies…… they things wer in the borstools wer very different yet very similar to wat we have in the U.S. of course laws r supposed to change but wen I was In Juvenile detention centers in Philly/Camden as a kid it was still the same amount of abuse…… by inmates and staff

Only in Britain could a film be banned for showing the truth, and yet the children (people who are not allowed to vote, buy alcohol, but can be forced to fight and die in war, or have the shit kicked out of them in Borstals and Detention centres.) can continue to be abused, as long as no one finds out.

Davis had it coming to him in the greenhouse. ..when those 3 fine young fellows merely wanted a 5 minute smoke break to be greeted by davis with " what you want?"...
The bloody cheek...no wonder prisoners behave the way they do when its full of wind up merchants like young davis..the hoodlum

I find it hard to believe that he's never been in Eastenders, surely he should do that one day

One of my claims to fame is when I met Ray Winstone. Many years ago me and my best mate has a job playing background music in a restaurant in Manchester. One night Ray Winstone came in for a meal. I remember him listening to us playing intently and applauding us even though it was just really background music.. when he was leaving the restaurant he walked upto me as I was playing guitar and put 20quid in my shirt pocket and thanked us and I nodded back to him and then he left. He was a real gentleman

I'm watching scum now for the thousand times lol

Nah he can’t say the bbc version is better than the film version

I was in borstal between 1977 and 1979 and scum was nothing like it. Just some screenplay writer imagination what it was like. Hello Terry Maconi. You were there as well in Dover borstal. Do you remember the screws getting our names mixed up? Lol

"Right, Banks, you barstad! I'm the daddy now! And next time, I'll fackin kill ya!"
A classic movie of it's time. Last month, I was working with two much younger lads. They had never heard of Scum. I hope they have at least seen a few clips by now.

No kicking in the goolies

Looking good Dad

love ray top top geezer proper mans man 👊👊👊

Both versions were great 👍 would never make anything like this today, too controversial