How To Write Dialogue: Tyrion vs Janos Slynt

I'm getting really good at dialogue, but have a hard time mixing in dialogue with actions and descriptions. I think i need to read more.

GRRM just follows rule #1 to create a character that immediately announces to the reader (Without doing so) that "I am a dOuCHe." Have said character refer to himself/herself in the 3rd person. 🤣🤣🤣

I have a degree in film and I still find your videos immensely useful. Not only have you improved upon my education but I frequently refer writers I am working with to your videos so when I push a rewrite I am all but assured that the new material will be smarter, more concise, and more in line with appropriate writing conventions. I cannot thank you enough. There is better writing in the world because of you.

Great video, I'm just disappointed you didn't finish the scene.

Another bit that I love when Tyrion asks for the pin, is he specifically asks for the pin that fastens Janos' cloak. Janos earned his position through his place as the head of King's Landing's guard force- the Gold Cloaks. When Tyrion takes the cloak pin away from him, it's with the intention of removing his golden cloak so he can replace it with the black one. The symbol of the Night's Watch.

Those Tyrion ACOK chapters were some of the best in the series if not the best. Tyrion is his best written character (like you said) and they involve a lot of politics in the thick of KL so they're so full of information, plot, character traits, etc. It's my favorite of the 5 ASOIAF books.

Fantastic stuff. George is just incredible.

I don’t think those are general principles.

I dunno, Jack London made a career on writing books full of main characters that never spoke, what with them being wolves and dogs and all.

You explain so well __ other channels like this are also interesting but in an effort to sound competent they make things contrived, you get the information across easily and do it in an interesting way, can tell you are good writer just from this.

Please do the breakdown of Tommen and Tywin when they’re standing over Joffreys body. It’s my favorite conversation in GOT.

To me, Slynt's skin turning red and his cape slithering off his shoulders evokes the image of a snake sloughing its skin off

You are very correct in saying the dialogue is the hardest part - many a book i have read that had a great premise but the dialogue was shit. You know what happens then? i start skipping over shit cause my time is being wasted - i wanna know what happens but i cant be arsed to read the filler between plot points

Sorry, but I don't know if I can agree with Mr. Datcher's advice. Dialogue being used to progress the plot usually comes off as a weak crutch. It can be done well, like anything in writing, but it needs fines to work or else it's boring exposition. To me, the sign of a genius writer is one that lays visuals clues in such a way that the reader/viewer can rely on his own cognitive faculties and encourage his own engagement.

"Martin's Best Written Character, the full-mouth half-man, Tyrion..."
Me: Sounds about right
"...and him verbally castrating our favourite slobbering invertebrate, Janos Slynt"
Me: Who is that? Is that someone important?

Didn't Mr. Martin once say that Tyrion's chapters are very hard for him, because Tyrion will spout his quips and barbs as oneliners that will take the author sometimes half a day? I guess, the more intelligent your character, the harder the writing. I have read a few fanfics and that's were they often seem to fail pretty harshly.

Writing like this is taken for granted in the moment. As with some pretty, egg-shaped rocks, however, true value is revealed when we take a fortunate look within.

Funny thing I just read that dialogue

"he's half decent at it"

I find it interesting how in this exchange, Tyrion seems to be almost in admiration of Ned. Is he just doing away with Slynt because he knows the man can’t be trusted or did he actually feel some grudging respect for the man Slynt helped kill? (Not mutually exclusive of course.)

I could preemptively like your vids. Idc if they affirm or challenge me. You've made me realize that those are both good

Allar Deem is my favorite character from the skoob.

"any bum off the street can...." I find the classism in a statement like that fascinating, quality should be determined by how few people can do it.

You excluded so much context that your presentation is senseless...

Wow this was good. I just finished writing my first comic book script and got good feedback from the editor but I still think my weak point is the dialogue so thank you for this

Actually, it is possible to write universally great dialogue. Just ask Terinteno.

Good dialogue is watching a scene and it genuinely feels like people talking to each other. We the audience are like flies on the wall listening to a conversation rather than watching actors read lines. That’s just me.

Where are you from, brother?

And if Janos dies by beheading like he does in the show, the references to Ned Stark will mean even more.

Martin has said he most identifies with Tyrion. He says he simply doesn’t have Tyrion’s wit. As it takes him some time to write what Tyrion responds with on a whim.
The show had promise in season 1. It was going to tell the story of ASOIAF, bringing it to the screen just with only 5% of the context.. when season 2 finished I told my best friend; no this is going to end in egregious failure.

They began fucking up when the material is still there. When they had to write for them selves it turned into an abomination that is disgraceful.

It’s hard I don’t deny that. This is why GRRM never wanted to let a movie be made... but what they did... I’ve read thousands of fan corrections... you know, we who reread the books not just read each once... and they had ideas to finish based on theories SO much better

Your chessboard idea kinda explains the last two season. I felt like the writers had an end goal for the series in mind (like maybe they knew they wanted Danny to go mad and for cerci and Jamie to die together) but instead of getting there in a way that was planned out and made since they took leaps in logic and character development to get there. Idk this is just feel I got

Really enjoyed this one!

I loved this! Please don’t stop!! These small videos have been a huge help towards my own book.
I would like to see you break down a Daenerys Targaryen chapter. I honestly love how smart she is in the books. Astapor being my favorite scene. That battle plan! Or Yunkai. She’s a child, with Stannis’ tactical talents.

"A great writer can deliver a thousand words of thought with only a hundred words on the page." Whoa, I'm gonna remember that one, that's a real neat quote!

I'm not a native speaker and I'm not sure what do you mean by "leaps of logic". Anyone could explain it to me?

I think this was Tyrion's way of sentencing Janos to death for his actions without outright doing it. After all, he knew Jon was up there at the Wall 😉

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The real ones know that Slynt is a Littlefinger agent/crony

"I'm not questioning your honor. I'm denying it's existence."

So this is done differently in the books?

I just finished reading this part in the book, and it's amazing

"Sunset found her squatting in the grass, groaning. By the time the moon came up she was shitting brown water. The more she drank the more she shat and the more she shat, the thirstier she grew."

Can you do a video on stanis?

That chess board illustration was clever. Writing good, intelligent, compelling dialogue is the hardest part of writing for me

Just found these, but I'd love to here your take on Tyrion's prison conversations season 4

Could you do another analysis of ASOIAF dialogue? You explain it so well and phew understand how to generate this sort of tight dialogue.

send the link to this video to D&D?