THROUGH THE LENSES - BEYOND vs Quest PRO vs PICO 4

Pimax Crystal arriving soon! What do you want to see it compared to?

i have my hopes up for the pico 5 due to the rumors. 2560x2560 for 599 bucks. sure, no oled, but not seeing SDE is whats important to me with a modern headset

Harika bir video aynısını ve de benzerlerini quest 3 ile de yapabilir misiniz. Farkı kendi gözlerimle görmek istiyorum 👍

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So, don't get the quest pro, got it.

the quest pro at much lower resolution still looks better to me due to the better optics

Did you test the beyond in 90hz? Because (correct me if I'm wrong) if so it doesn't render at full resolution.
Also did you fix the white balance of your camera? Aka are the colors comparable like that? And what did you set it to? Would be nice to see properly set white under daylight conditions as comparison. (set your lights to 5600K and whitebalance your camera to it. Then do your VR tests with that exact setting.
Like this it looks like the beyond has a slight warm and violet tint, the pico a noticeable green tint and the quest pro a noticeable cool shift

Once again, Quest color reproduction is garbage.

All 3 look pretty bad. VR has a long way to go before I consider dipping my toes

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Pico 4 budget friend and amazing resolution

Yes I've been looking at all the different headsets and it looks like actually probably the best overall will be the quest 3 eventually for the price what do you think?

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Question. I am here, to compare between these.
But have read that the Pico 4, as of about 5 days ago,- (August 10th 2023.) -is not working with Steam games.
Have you found this? Or does Steam work now with the Pico 4? Thanks for any help.

Sold my vive pro 2 for $900 bucks and purchased a used like new quest pro for $500 bucks and its amazing. Okay I have a i7 10th gen and rtx 3080 the link cable sucks! Purchased a 50 dollar one and the game kept freezing after 5 minutes also it would stutter alot! Purchased the oculus link cable for 80 at best buy and it was the same crap seeing some stuttering artifacts, and the game would freeze after 5min. Finally purchased a 100Foot CAT8 ethernet cable from Amazon 40 bucks. I ran it from my wifi router thats all the way across my house to my gaming pc and launched airlink and it sucked! Lag was terrible 😪 so I got Virtual Desktop and WOW blown away it works perfectly! You'd never know you were streaming the game it feels like its playing natively like pcvr not only that but its %100 better looking than my old Vive Pro 2. I love the clean image and everything looks crisp and colorful HLYX is a totally different looking game and the fact I can play without being tethered by a wire is awesome! I have Cox internet 500mbps speed wifi 5 router that supports gigablast. I see zero artifacts or compression using virtual desktop high setting bitrate at 150 the streaming codec I have set to Hevc 10 bit. I can walk to my living room far from my gaming pc and it still streams fine no lag and looks incredible. The only thing I dislike is the sound sucks and the docking station to charge everything bad design. Comfort is incredible no more pressure on my face only on tip of forhead but doesn't bother me at all.

I watch anime and movies on it looks amazing much clearer than the vive 2 was and much more enjoyable. I like that it has removable light blockers I dont use them that often I like the fact I feel connected to the outside world when I am watching a movie.

Anyone worried if the image is not going to be great you'll be blown away by the new pancake lens and just how good the local dimming and colors are on the quest pro. Okay I think I raved enough about this headset lol. You'll just have to take my word.

If you use it as a standalone its great but gaming performance still kinda sucks and if couse those ugly mobile graphics are trash. I haven't used AR yet but whatever. Also you get eye tracking and facial tracking kinda cool but I haven't tried it yet...
I also had the HP reverb g2 years ago thought it was trash windows vr sucks and the sweet spot sucks and the tracking. I really liked my vive pro 2 paired with index controllers it was awesome and looked the best and had a pretty good size sweet spot but was heavy couldn't play any fast paced games since the headset would slide around unless I tightent the shit out of it but that was uncomfortable after 30min to an hour I was worried the quest pro wasn't gonna look good but it looks miles better and the experience is better as well as the comfort. Thanks for reading.

lets hope q3 has those same really clear lenses + superior display

The clarity of the Beyond looks amazing. Unfortunately I move around to much in VR. My current use is Vive Pro with Wireless and fbt. My options are so darn limited. Quest Pro isn't as clear in this video as I would have hoped. It's clear there's still some screen door. If I were to get the Quest Pro, then I would need to add a tracker to it to line up with my laser tracked trackers. If only Meta would created a Base station tracked HMD for us full body folks. My other options is a wireless Vive Pro 2 but I don't want to sacrifice my vertical FOV.

Honestly coming from cv1 to odyssey plus, to pico 4.
The progress is absolutely amazing. I really really like this headset, can’t imagine what we’ll have in 10 years

From this comparison Quest Pro suffers from very obvious hatching/screen door???? But also it is LCD and yet its blacks look very impressive or even better than the micro oled of the beyond??

На beyond изображение по бокам сильно размыто

Interesting to see that pixel shimmer from individual pixels on an object's edge not exist for the Beyond. It also nearly disappears for the Quest Pro. It's still there in the Pico 4, but to it's credit, it doesn't seem to be a huge problem. I wonder if it's possible to make it disappear on the Pico 4 by cranking up the anti-aliasing to somewhere between x4 and x8. Although I'm not sure if that has already been done.

The Beyond clearly has the nicest looking images, I think mostly due to the high res MicroLED display. But the Quest Pro seems to do very well as clarity. I noticed that the contrast of text and similar shapes was very nice for the Quest Pro. Although the Quest Pro seemed to have some noticeable chromatic aberration in the letter chart eye test scene, which I didn't notice in any other scene.

I wonder if the Beyond would look even better with equivalent lenses to the Quest Pro; the blurring at the edges of the screen in the Beyond is due to the lenses, right?

Given the choice between the Beyond and Quest Pro, I think I'd pick the Quest Pro. The Quest Pro's vision is acceptable, but it also comes with eye tracking; a feature missing from the Beyond.

I also don't like the requirement to use an iPhone to order the Beyond. Not everyone has or wants an iPhone. It wouldn't be a problem if they had an option to mail out an iPhone for you to borrow for the scan, even if there was a reasonable waiting list to receive a loaner unit. I'm sure they could afford to keep some low end iPhones in stock if they charged a little more for the option, like 50 USD or so, plus a refundable deposit to cover the replacement cost if someone doesn't return the loaner. Maybe ship it out in an over-built protective phone case? Doesn't need to be fashionable, just needs to survive.

Imagine trying to look at an OLED screen with an LED phone screen

Beyonf is smeared/blurry, Pico is clear, Quest Pro is very pixecellated, prefer Pico 4 luckily I have one.

They don't work, it looks bad, the connection has to be through display port to have the best image

It's like the quest pro is clearer but grainy at the same time but anyways the pico 4 is the one I would go with

Still waiting for Valve's next headset. I hope they won't decide to cancel its development.
None of these competitors make me want to upgrade from the Index unfortunately.

Ah... Possibly going to have to get the Vision Pro...

Meta needs to put out a super high res headset, even if it costs more.

Maybe we need to compare Beyond with Arpara. I can tell from this video that they are just as bad in many aspects.
Small sweetspot and strong glare in daytime.

Beyond is obviously the best especially considering the weight.

quest pro ftw

Pico4 as a standalone headset only suffers from bad game porting but nowadays its slowly begining to be good through updates

Since watching the Apple VP presentation, I've gone down the VR/AR YT rabbit hole. :)
My thoughts on these before stopping just after the comparisons finished, but before your comments, as I didn't want what you said to influence my opinion.
Beyond: I was a little disappointed. Given the specs I expected to be wowed more. While clear that it has the most resolution, it seems to have softer lenses, and give it was OLED, I expected color/contrast to pop the most but it didn't.
Pico: Kind of in the middle
Quest Pro: While you could tell it had the lowest resolution. It seemed most consistently in focus, and its colors also seemed to pop better.

No clear winner for me, but none are terrible either. Now I go watch the rest of they video, to see what you said about them.

pico 4, hands down, can hold its own with these 2, but has the biggest FOV, which makes it the most immersive. Also for a fraction of the price.

why it is not such a big difference between beyond and pico 4??? do u guys recommend vive xr elite or pico 4? im an experience vr user too. need new vr. now using Quest 2.

So many pancakes.

And Varjo???

Ohh, I just realised about the Quest Pro. The Screendoor effect is so bad because it's through camera!

quest pro looks terrible

Think I'll stick with my Quest Pro.

Pico 4 all day quest pro got some screen door going on

Sounds like Quest Pro lenses + Beyond screens would be a perfect match... but it is sadly not so easy in reality, the Beyond mOLED screen is much smaller so you need a other Pancake lense design, Quest Pro lenses wouldn't work.

Looking forward to getting my Beyond headset.
Be interesting to see how well my system drives it?

Quest pro is better

Would like to know if you wold be willing to sacrifice the comfort of the bigscrean for the larger FOV of the Pimax.

This comparison is a tough one. It’s kind of like comparing a standalone, high quality monitor to the screen of a laptop; one is a display, the other is a computer WITH a display.

only Pimax Crystal