"Worst Way to Save Money" I Agniveer Battle Between Rahul Gandhi & Modi Government I Barkha Dutt

wonderful debate. keep up the good work. I wish this interview could be translated into multiple regional languages to reach wider audiences. Please make an effort in this direction ...

RSS youth join Agniveer to support modi come on come on I have heard from RSS when manmohan ruling time infiltration in border by terrorist I can't stop and Army can't we will send RSS to defend it is heard several times if infiltration was there so please join Agniveer to support modi come on RSS

This is bloody hell. If govt will keep reservation to retired army personnel in every department then can these speakers tell me what will happen to others boys who don't want to join the army.

A beautiful interview conducted Madam Barkha, with the high officers of the Armed forces on a hot topic, 'Agniveer.' The different points of views was given with knowledge, experience, personal views that enlightened us viewers and the outcome of agree to disagree, with courtesy and grace as Gentlemen. The code and ethics of our Armed Forces. May they all, in present services or in retirement be Blessed by the Almighty above.
In my humble ignorant view, the Agniveer scheme should either be excessively tweaked by first having a trial project which ever service of the Armed services, and if unsuccessful, completely scrapped. You don't send a greenhorn to do a professional combat soldiers job. As in this case, cause of death was in action. I don't think a Martyer of the country cannot be differentiated by the status he holds in the Army and dues given to the dependents, should be appropriate. The government in power would definitely look into the same.

Apply agniveer in all govt jobs

I don't approve of the Agnipath scheme.
But I despise Rahul gandhi for spreading lies against the army and defence ministry.

To général Yash, sir for your kind information IDF has been defeated by HAMAS, Israël is no référence as a strong , moral & disciplined army, they are genocidal army. Without American & european militry help IDF will surrender. More tha 3500 IDF soldiers have been killed. So please forget IDF !

Thanks

The shaheed got one crore and the debater is saying I didn’t know who paid. Such a shallow debate and Barkha is misleading. Not questioning Rahul Gandhi who mislead the nation.

Moron, where does the money for army comes from and who pays for the insurance premium

Always nagative

General Shukla is he a spokesperson of government of India. Can Agniveer take on Chinese. Has gurkha accepted this scheme. Understand gurkhas are joining Chinese army. Is it true

Rahul Gandhi is Right ❤

Indians never love reforms. They cry why are we still a developing country why this why that. But whenever a reform is proposed they riot and create rukus. 😂😂

The importance of defence professionals can't be emphasized enough in a country that shares long borders with historical adversaries. However, we will have to go toward a leaner army going forward. If you scrap agniveer, they will start recruiting fewer people. I believe they recruit people based on requirement and I don't think there's any law that the army has to recruit whether or not it needs more manpower. I guess eventually it comes down to the unemployment issue.

I think such schemes are there in many countries. Even America, korea, and many other countries has it, Even their soldiers after getting couple of months training they goes to Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan etc for war. If they dies they dies, but if they lives their Govt gives them whatever they deserve after that they do other things or continue with their education. Whereas our soldier dont go to other countries to serve. It's the same thing. The only thing is we trying yo show other countries that we are so democratic. Isn't it.

As usual Burqa sticks to her NDTV habits bring one pro, and rest all against topic to fulfill her agenda. And this zamiruddin shah and yash mor are loose cannons, Dont believe a word out of their lying mouths. As usual Gen SHukla and adm praksh make sense. Why should'nt our millitary modernise, the atmy and air force like playing with foreign toys but not Indian aquipment. Pls understand, the first iteration are always under development, its the multiple iteration through repeat orders that develops a weapon into a world class equipment.

Does Army have a choice? Hear what ex Armymen are saying

Pls apply agniveer to IAS officers.

Lol..same arguments used during farm laws are repeated. Entrenched sections who are benefitting with existing system always will create road blocks to any reforms. And these people make the most noise. End result, India is stuck with many inefficient and useless policies in many sectors. Then people wonder why India is still poor...

I laugh when burqa says she doesnt underestimate soldiers. The b** has made only money on solders deaths.

These people are turning story and lies spread by Gandhi misleading Nation and now they are talking about Agniveer Scheme itself and not discussing about why Rahul lied and what could be done about Rahul

She how this ecosystem that Modi was referring to in his speech works. shame.

Very balanced and nice debate where we get to see point of view of both the sides

It is nothing but waste of finance...
I am a retired army ,the army have trainning period of 9 months at the list n are send to their units after which it takes atleast 3 to 5 years to be a perfect soldier that too after attending a trainning called young soldier training in the unit for another one month only then a soldier is really ready for battlefield
You cannot simply compare everyone.... different people have different adopting capabilities, again as an army retired knowing the ground condition i say 6 months trained soldier can never be ready as a soldier,I am not against the scheme but please prolong the training period n their tenure.

Agniveer is weakening the combating capacity of armed forces this will give an edge to Pakistani and Chinese are over hard battled field army of our country. Rural youth has the last choice for joining the army .

Rahul is liar and barkha is hypocrite and if some one doesn’t like agniveer thn dont fall for it

Money should be spent on military equipment and not on pensions alone . Technology is the buzzword now

Why you so called journalist can't understand that this scheme is only for faujis not officers., why cant you bring on the panel retired JCOs and Honorory Capts who will tell you the real inside of this scheme.These so called retired Generals who are in the favour of scheme please extend it to Army Officers and dont compare this shit scheme to Short Service Commission. These Army Officers will never do justice to Army Men and there is so much injustice towards Faujis in our Country and remember Fauji is the one who takes the first bullet not these clowns who hide behind them in operations.

Question is not if the scheme is right or not, question is how come rahul baba lied in parliament without fact checking. Its a dangerous trend and should be stopped

Every time I find Barkha Dutt... the same old timers... rather better...
May Nature always help you.. bless you..I m now going to be 77....been always your fan....

Completely agree with Gen Shukla. All these old and retired ex-servicemen are all like, "I have been..." or "I have seen..." or "I know how..." and so on and so forth. Spare a thought for all those Colonels and Generals and Majors who are in service right now. They might be thinking, "don't we know anything"?

Kind of funny coming from ex-servicemen that while the guns and tanks need modernization, the people behind those guns and tanks should be from legacy systems. I guess they forget that not only our forces, but everything around us is being modernized. And people are coping with it, because those clinging to legacy systems and procedures are falling behind.

Technology change is one thing, technology adoption is another, and to have a robust institute, the rates of those two got to be at par. There's no question of falling behind, for the costs are too high, nation at stake.

Lastly, if it takes 8 long years to train a gunner, well, the training needs to change, as simple as that. It can't be a scenario where we need to stick to old guns because it takes 8 years to train on a new gun.

My friend who served short service, still couldn't find jobs.

Agniveer for politicians too.
Why for them double pension and all facilities.

Bunch of old farts discussing the wants of a young nation. Didn't expect any better from our dearest Barkha

This discussion highlights one of the problems faced by a Nationalist Government - entrenched bureaucracy not interested in change, either good or bad. As revealed in the discussion, when the government asks them to bring their own ideas of efficiency both in skill and return on the buck, they have nothing to offer. When government goes ahead with their own plan, they have all the time and ideas to critique. As to the hurry in implementing Agniveer/Agnipath, for the bureaucracy there is nothing time-bound. We have been watching how much time the Navy, AF are taking in evaluating new Platforms and coming up with divided recommendations. Please don't entertainment these retired, and tired generals - their time has passed.

Thank god politicians are not called…

Apparently Mor and Shah are exactly mimicing rahul gandhi, they would never utter a word on how ill equipped army was during CONgress time. Looks like these arm chair political generals don't put their country first.

It always amazing us how these arrogant entitled, selfish army generals and others keep saying ,$ year terms are good and ok?in that case why not do it for the officers ,and these lazy spoilt generals too. Everyone know these, genera’s use the jawans as servants forcing them to work 12-18 hours a day with no breaks doing all the hard work ,shopping for their lazy wife’s etc. etc. let’s see how these losers ch get their tunes if this scheme is forced on the officers and generals too
So this g real who sits in a AC office on his behind .says it’s ok for. Young new recruit ,with only 6 months training fights a Chinese soldier with 5 years of experience. So he thinks a few lakhs or 1 crore is good for the family ,which they get only if the son dies is hunky dory? This is the caste system I play here. In the USA the generals are in the front lines along with their soldiers not sitting on a AC room on their A s S . Saw a pic of one general being carried by Jawans because it was raining. , this was the bharat army general.

Wonderful show. One platform for unbiased journalism/ reporting

What a way to save money. Shame that the law makers find difficult to use their hearts and minds 😢

I am just a lay person child of a jawan under the British army. I fin the change not good for the armed forces 😢

Why nobody talks on short service commission brought buy congress party

Raising money for the Indian defence sector by cutting down on pension facilties is like raising tuition fees by asking the child to eat a two course meal and skip dinner. There has to be better ways of raising more money, direct or indirect.

Like, make indigenous weapons rather than importing them, strengthen the economy through good policies, and introduce wealth tax considering the huge concentration of wealth in this country.

And if they want younger army men, just reduce their retirement age, why strip them of their facilities?

It's good that RAGA's intervention has given rise to a debate on this flawed scheme. It's true that Raga hadn't done his homework properly. Or he was ill-informed. However it was a blessing in disguise. If he had merely pointed out the drawbacks of the scheme, the government wouldn't have responded. It's his faux pas that drew an immediate response from the HM. Many army officers are opposed to it. It is tantamount to compromising on the security of the country

PM asked Olympic players to bring medal to bring glory for INDIA

How many ac gym , swimming pool , BJP rss opened in every 30K Police station area in country

How will connect with mass

Only IPL jumla

30 000 on paper 18000 in hand

It is not about cutting corners in Defence Budgets, Barkhajee, it's about doing away with HUGE CONTIGENT LIABILITIES in the future, without real COST-BENEFiT
EFFECTiVENESS

Agnipath is a royal path to FOLLY. Two reasons were adduced during the press conference in June 2022. First making the army younger and second making young men more disciplined. Both are not tenable as I can prove that by using 10th class arithmetic.
Another reason adduced is that the armed forces require modern weapons and equipment using technology. When we consider the impact of high technology it is essential to keep in mind the human factor: the effectiveness of weapon systems and equipment will continue to depend on the men who man and maintain these so-called high-tech systems. Agniveers will not be suitable for their lack of training and experience. Yes pension is an issue which can be resolved by different terms and conditions for civil like trades in the armed forces.These trades are cooks, barbers, waiters, drivers, clerks and storekeepers and so on.

There is a need to carry out a comprehensive study to analyse the whole gamut of HR management of personnel below officers" ranks
including recruitment, training, postings, career progression and exit policies.

I am not even mentioning the socio-economic aspects which are equally important

Major General V K Varma,AVSM (Retd)