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Plot twist: functions in python are still just objects :D
ОтветитьThere should be one -- and preferably only one -- obvious way to do it.
ОтветитьI have the feeling that the classic way would be more readable since it has been introduced for a long time.
ОтветитьAs far as I understand Callable with typed arguments is deprecated in favour of Protocol. You could have kept the Protocol class to type hint the functions.
ОтветитьI think you should have mentioned that _call_ is only usable/executed after the class has been already instanced.
ОтветитьI've always seen it as LIFO, not FILO, though both work just fine, I guess
ОтветитьYet another wonderful video. Thank you. 🙏 Why do you insist on retyping the signature of create_ordering? It seems more efficient to copy and paste. 😊
ОтветитьI'm glad you're finally deviating from the "write Python like Java" approach. That's my gripe with a lot of the patterns used meticulously "as conceived" - they are often overengineered due to too many classes everywhere and can be made far easier using constructs like closures or dictionary dispatch.
ОтветитьAmazing video! I’d love to see architecture patterns like clean architectures to understand how to structure web apps, where does the business logic goes, and stuff like that 👍🏼 - Great work @Arjan
ОтветитьThis is somehow the first time I've seen the acronym FILO (first in last out). At a previous job, we had a FILO inventory system, but call it "fish" for "first in still here."
ОтветитьI hope I never have to request support from a support system that uses first in last out lol
Ответитьur videos are always so valuable, i super appreciate your work and effort u.u
ОтветитьIt's been more than two years working as a Python Developer and nothing excites me more than getting a notification, Arjan Codes has uploaded a new video 🔥
Thanks for the premium quality content.
Hey @Arjan ! Thanks a lot for your videos. They're really advanced and easy to follow at the same time. I noticed you make your type hints lower case. I'm importing from `typing` instead. I'd be interested in your reasons. Thanks a lot!
ОтветитьBeen binge watching your videos over the weekend. This is theraputic.
ОтветитьAwesome, thanks!
ОтветитьGreat video! But I don't understand the advantage of using Protocol instead of ABC. I see it as a loss of information which can create confusion in the future.
ОтветитьIn c#, we can also pass an actioin<> or a func<>. strategy pattern.
ОтветитьHaving got into programming before all these design patterns became the in thing, I'm enjoying your videos, and hope to see more!
Your option 4 (just using functions) seems so much more Pythonic than the Byzantine Java-derived 'class with a single function pretending to be a function' options. I wonder whether your insistance on defining the types of everything obscures what is quite a simple idea in option 5 -- calling a function which returns another function is not a particularly obscure thing to do in Python, but I can imagine is quite painful to think about in more formal languages.
Am I missing something? It seems like in that last example of a function returning a closure, the closure is always returning the same shuffle (so if [a, b, c] comes back [b, c, a], then [d, e, f] will come back [e, f, d] - though admittedly different length lists would be shuffled differently). All iterables would be shuffled precisely the same in a single run. I would have expected only that the first shuffle of a sequence of calls is shuffled the same from run to run.
Thanks for the video. This answered a question in a side project that had been bugging me for a couple days now.
I like the closure way, but would have referred to it as a factory pattern... What is the distinction between what you call a "closure" and what you call a "factory", don't they both create and return a customised object?
Thanks for your great videos!
Excellent examples!!
ОтветитьI really think that a series on architectures would be amazing..
This is the senior stuff us noobs need to learn 😄
Great Video, thanks! What keyboard do you use? Doesn‘t sound like a standard mac one, right?:)
Ответить@ArjanCodes, could you create or link to a video showing the keyboard shortcuts? I noticed you were deleting lines or data between parans with some keyboard shortcuts. I could probably take time to google these but hey, it's more content for you to make :)
ОтветитьI like the example overall but i dislike that you removed the selection of strategies. It might seem that the strategy pattern chooses the right strategy on its own which is not the case. Most of the time you still need to select a Strategie in the client.
The clients needs to know about the strategies and instantiate the appropriate one. This is where pythons new structural pattern matching in gone come in handy I think.
Nonetheless great video and very useful pattern that provides great extensibility, decoupling, switching of strategies at runtime.
great work! Could you make a video about typing in Python and cool features that can be used with them?
ОтветитьStrategy가 dynamic한 외부 데이터에 의존한다면 class를 쓰는 전통적인 방식이 낫지 않을까?
Function을 사용한다면 의존성을 주입한 partial function을 써야할 거 같음.
Great but difficult (:
ОтветитьI love working alongside your videos on your examples. Thank you for all of your hard work!
ОтветитьWhat extension were you using that automatically imported packages? I am using TabNine pro and it doesn't do this.
ОтветитьBlows my mind how much I don’t know
Ответитьgreat ideas! I had never though about creating an "interface" for functions, using the callable to match the typing patterns is very clever.
Thanks for the videos!
To be honest all this does for me is confirm my preconception that nobody that thinks about design patterns should ever use them. I've never seen an example where a 'strategy' isn't just effectively just a closure/bound function object, and elevating this to being worthy of a named type just results in inexperienced developers wanting to define classes just so they can name them 'BlahBlahStrategy'.
ОтветитьI really love the idea of using functions instead of classes if the class is just there to hold a single method and no state!
I also think it further reduces coupling because the function that is calling the strategy doesn't need to know what the method name is or anything. Might even be good to pass the strategy as a parameter to the calling function where you can provide the type alias as type hint as well.
Lets say we have a function which takes argument of type A and returns argument of type B ( A -> B)
Then I put them in a dict strategies: {string: A -> B } and thats it... for functions this works very well, if you want to map to classes you have to make an Interface and use it in strategies as the type instead of A -> B and of course your classes shall inherit the interface
Great video as always, many thanks mate. Also yes, I've been using Tabnine with VS Code for Linux for a while, it's just like 'Magic' and FREE!! ... ;-)
Ответить@ArjanCodes Thanks for the rich content you produce here. Is there any performance advantages between these features?
ОтветитьI am in a bind right now where I want to enforce an interface on a number of object methods, all in the same class, all requiring access to self in order to continue the flow of the program. It would be easy to apply the functional implementation of the strategy pattern to them, but that doesn't enforce kwarg names and I like using the kwarg names wherever possible, especially with an interface in python.
One thought that I have is to inject these methods, but then I would have to pass the ingesting object to these methods so that they could call the method in the ingesting object. This feels messy.
My next thought is to take the method call to the next method out of the injected methods, and have necessary data bubble back up and then continue the flow.
aka it is currently
->originating method
-> injected method
-> next object method
and I would change it to
-> originating method
-> injected method
<- return result
-> originating method
-> next object method
I have ended up going with my final solution. I thought I should post this as a real life example, since it has helped me think and might help someone else.
Turns out I forget an old lesson to keep the stack as shallow as possible, and your life will get much easier.
Is there a way to rewrite the last example with a decorator instead of an explicit closure?
ОтветитьQuestion:
If i add in FIFO another func, still work protocol? or all the strategy tickets must have same funcs?
Nice video. Am I the only one who thinks people are trying to shoehorn functional stuff into everything they do? Classes are still the most explicit, intuitive, readable and elegant way to achieve something like this.
ОтветитьAs a JavaScript fanboy, I always used to like to say "YES! but 'my language' has closures and 'yours' doesn't!".... This is becoming less and less valid all the time. ;)
I love how you keep your examples so minimal - your videos are never too complex to be able to follow and not everyone realises how important that is.
super cool and informative video! thank you for the great effort!
ОтветитьI watched this video a while ago then I didn't really have a use case for this so i just toss this info back of my mind somewhere. Today, I just realized that for the problem i was solving this is a great way to attach the problem. Here i am watching again and yes this will be a perfect way to solve my problem. Thanks Arjan!
ОтветитьI like your vids, but this background music is annoying.
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