The Fate of FEDRA: Has the military collapsed? | The Last of Us Lore

The game obviously wants you to hate fedra but i cant, its the literal zombie apocalypse and society has collapsed, you dont survive and have some kind of civilization by being nice.
I genuinely support fedra in this universe

FEDRA did nothing wrong 🍷🗿

FEDRA could still somewhat have control of the Navy, can’t say they have colonies or some weird stuff like that but it’s mostly likely that they do have some sort of naval operations.
FEDRA in Boston is for now fully in control after they defeated, i mean FEDRA wiped the floor of fireflies, i dunno much about the Atlanta QZ or the Denver QZ or if there are any other QZs that aren’t mention, maybe some in washington DC or in say, New Orleans or other major cities or maybe in other american territories such as Anchorage in Alaska or Honolulu hawaii.
Still if FEDRA had control of the renments of the USN then it would be possible for them to administrate those QZs if there were any.

Im surprised cities as big as Seattle and Pittsburgh even Salt Lake City would be overrun by the rebels you’d think with the national guard and all domestic forces it’d be hard for the survivors and fireflies to over throw them

Fedra still has operational helicopter and air assets , the helicopter you found in the game crash was recent so i guess fedra still has more power and stable in some cities

not really, even Bill said right now only the military is still making truck. so I'd say military lost some of the QZ, but still maintain some of them.

San francisco going off the factions 2 concept art DEFINIRELY collapsed

Every one talks about Boston Seattle Atlanta DC in the last of us what about New York never heard anyone mention New York in any of this lol ?

Likey

what about Hawaii and Alaska, the former is isolated and the latter would be too cold for cordyceps to spready effectively, especially since the global average temp possibly decreased due to human influence collapse.

Shouldn’t within 20 years the majority of these creatures be dead? Like irl ants die quickly from the infection.

I’m sure they are doing an enclave thing where they bugger off and wait for everything to die before recolonising the nation after the danger is gone.

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I always found FEDRA to be the most unrealistic part of the story.
The US military would never act so callously to its own citizens. Nor would American citizens tolerate such a police state. They couldn't even get us to wear masks. You expect me to believed they'd tolerate onsite execution? That's not to say govts CANT get that authoritarian, just not here. I just don't see the US military being so cruel (to its own citizens) or fumbling the ball so badly.

Pittsburgh is the perfect example of this. West Virginia is an iron and coal hub hidden behind the Appalachian mountains from the hordes. It's only a 100 miles from the US capital. The US government would absolutely move its capital to Pittsburgh. If only just to mine iron for its bullets. But I think TLOU is just trying to tell a good story and is not hyper-focused on realism.

its weird how many shows like showing the remaining governments/"proper" societies as the bad guys. IMO you need law and order to be able to survive, and Fedra is the closest thing you have

Makes you think the chance in Part 3 with FEDRA making a major push to reclaim territory. Even more so if they discover the less likely chance of finding someone like Ellie. Just a thought, would be crazy if Jackson was put under siege.

So basically fedra is the enclave of the tlou universe

I have no evidence to support it, by I would strongly suspect that FEDRA has turned Martha's Vineyard and Nantucket into strongholds from which to maintain maritime connections to the Boston and Hartford QZs among other coastal locations. Both islands are just the right distance from the mainland to keep infected and people without skill in boating from reaching them, while they in turn could launch missions to the mainland with their forces who are more experienced in boating and can probably better maintain some semblance of a navy in the post-apocalypse.
Also, both islands have decent-sized airfields with which to base whatever remaining aircraft FEDRA might have out of. Finally, I think both islands are just the right size to house a population that is large enough to be a powerful and industrialized force, but small enough that FEDRA can keep its eyes on everything and not accidently grow to a population it cannot sustain.

One additional note: I think fishing would be one of the main ways to get large amounts of food in TLOU's world, since farms risk cordyceps contamination and need constant work to grow a successful crop, whereas the fish populations are probably bouncing back exponentially with most of the world dead or otherwise incapable of industrial-scale fishing.

THE LAST OF THE UNITED STATES USA USA USA we can never be defeated Fedra is the last hope for humanity

The character wants you to hate fedra the whole stpry aligns you to hate fedra, but i just cant. Its literally a extinction event, you dont survive by being soft and lovable, every action fedra took was a way to keep america or probably humanity alive, the QZs was hell hole under authoritarian rule but ut was better than getting mauled alive by some parasite

Yeah and I feel like the Fireflies could never successfully defeat Fedra on their own, they either failed miserably or they’d always outsource and reach out to other groups for help, like they failed miserably in Boston and in Pittsburgh they had the Hunters help them and I’m sure the Fireflies and Hunters worked together to destroy the Hartford Qz too, and in Seattle the WLF never needed the help of the Fireflies, they were able to defeat Fedra all on their own!

Honestly the problem is that FEDRA put up all those QZ in high population areas which of course made sense at the time during the outbreak but now 20 years on it's not a great location to be in because you have a high population of infected and because of the high density of buildings and skyscrapers its hard to expand so the Ideal thing to do would be to go out into the country side and rebuild there because that's where there isn't a high concentration of infected and you have a lot of breathing room for your population and also are much closer to farming land. But of course moving from a city QZ would be a logistical nightmare but something that i think FEDRA should be focusing on for it's future.

Either FEDRA or an isolated but protected community, those are the only choices I would pick.

I thought that said “fedora” for a moment and I was confused

With the last of us part 3, I think fedra has at least 25000 - 40000 soldiers

I like to think my Hometown Philly survived for a few years but probably taking over the northeast or southwest neighborhoods but probably succumb to the same fate as Pittsburgh

Fedra is most likely falling back to there main central command hqs in places such as LA Hawaii possibly Alaska also Houston or somewhere in texas and i know places like the Boston Quarantine zone is still barely holding on and about like 5 to 7 other quarantine zones that are doing good and will hold on for a long time as far as we can see i do know that there are 5 quarantine zones in and around Appalachia with everything west of those quarantine zones either have fallen or are either isolated or currently unable to contact command or any other zones outside of there own zone and as the question about fedra as a whole for each zone that collapses gets overrun the remaining remnants of fedra from those zones that haven't been killed or turned most likely fell back to the nearest central command hq or a nearby zone taking with them small portions of rations equipment and the likes bolstering there numbers and everything else in those zones or hqs but as for the hqs they are probably building up there manpower equipment resources and everything else from zones that were abandoned by fedra or little remnants that survived being overrun by infected or uprisings so the second option is most likely what fedra central high command is doing and possibly in the future we could see fedra taking back large parts of the country from the wolfs fireflies and in places with uprisings from the civilian population that created there own separate groups and small medium and large group's of infected

You know, it'd be funny if the military had a bigger presence outside of the U.S. continental mainland, like in the Middle East or East Asia. Unlikely, but it'd be interesting to see the U.S. in exile.

Who’d wanna live in a QZ? Screw that.

Question? What ever happened to the Air Force or navy ? I played both games , wondering if the army rolled in and try to stop the infection but failed etc

Always told that NERO was better!

I suspect that Fedras HQ could be in Nevada like Area 51, a literal fortress in modern times, Thousands of soldiers, Enough weapons to fight of anything and enough protection from intruders cctv etc…

What about Alaska ? could it have helped ?

I mean Fedra is still around because the northern eastern states would be very prominently strong like Boston 20 years later
And seeing theres trading communites between boston and atlanta
On a convo between joel and a soldier trading for drugs

I can imagine QZs like NYC and its burroughs ,Newark NJ (North Jersey)
Trenton NJ (South Jersey ) and Philadelphia PA and the Carolinas and Virginias and Ohio being still operational and even parts of canada like toronto and quebec to be around

Also would imagine the next TLOU3 game would be a game taking place in the desert region
In Arizona and Las Vegas on the way to Texas where joel is from to make the game come full circle in a weird way and we can see how hotter climates make infected any different like the rain and water flood climates did in seattle for the infected and winter climate
In Jackson
And see how fedra fell in the hot climates

But yeah theres so much lore than meets the eye

God bless the United States. God bless FEDRA.

Tlou needs a spin off game set in the very beginning following a fedra perspective

I wish the Last of us 2 stoped being canon

Would love to see a zombie game where the military dosent immediately fail.

If something could destroy fedra would be over extension, 'evacuating' (leaving behind) the least productive/more problematic QZs to centralize resources on promising QZs would be a sound strategy

I rather deal with fedra government the infected or hunters

the legitimacy of administration acts like martial law may be questionable at best in the event the government as a whole (Executive, Legislative, Judicial) has totally collapsed. At that point, at the latest, the imposed rules of FEDRA-controlled zones might as well be referred to as depotism.

my dumbass read fedora in the thumbnail and i got really interested for a second

Fedras central command may be on an aircraft carrier

You sound like Rob Ager it’s crazy

I'm guessing that most Eastern Coast MZs like Boston, Washington D.C., Miami and others are still operational just from the fact that they're on the coast

They were what was left of order and civilization, they tried their best with absolutely huge numbers of people.... the other groups are just your average civilians... accountants, teachers,admin and whatnot turned badass who think they know better

Kinda sad that this is how the United States ends.

FEDRA has been almost forgotten at TLOU 2 , hope they can get this covered on the next game. Maybe FEDRA already got the vaccine and just using it for themselves and it's officials and people in power/rich population.

all military will fail after not receiving food from the supply in a month