Synology DS423+ vs QNAP TS 464 NAS - AS FAST AS POSSIBLE!!!!

I’m looking to replace a Drobo5n and it seems pretty obvious that qnap have better hardware but synology have better software. I like the idea of synologys support for different hdd sizes, so I have a question. Can the qnap have two pairs of drives, say 2x4TB drives and 2x8TB with each pair in its own Raid1 configuration?

Edit: found answer is yes, but will need to take care if I ever want to go to a single 4x8TB raid later on. And in my case using them as 4x4TB raid 5 should give the same total 12TB storage anyway

Hi I appreciate your videos which are very informative I have bought QNAP 464 I am not finding good experience. I never used any NAS system before so I can’t compare.
I would like to have an advice that which NAS brand is best for iCloud back up including best pics backup option from apple devices
Thanks

Hi I appreciate your videos which are very informative I have bought QNAP 464 I am not finding good experience. I never used any NAS system before so I can’t compare.
I would like to have an advice that which brand is best for iCloud back up including best pics backup option from apple devices
Thanks

I got the DS423+, and it is perfect for my needs right now. Now I can access my files from anywhere, and Jellyfin with hardware transcoding is fantastic. That having been said, I do feel a pang of regret when I see how much more future proof the TS-464 is. When the time comes that I upgrade to faster network equipment, I'm gonna be stuck with no official upgrade path for the DS423+ . I see a future of trying to pull off unofficial ethernet upgrades through usb or those m.2 slots.

Qnap wins it for me. It's easier to upgade software than hardware. Yes, the software comes in second here, but from the comments it is still quite serviceable.

I would say that QNAP QTS has greatly caught up to Synology DSM with 5.1 Beta and all the updates to 5.0 we have had over the last 9 months. Synology is loosing ground however to QNAP because they have chosen REALLY and I mean REALLY old hardware to make killer margin and then locked you in to their stuff paying more for less. QTS is even beginning to feel like DSM in some areas. And at the end of the day, we choose these devices to deliver services on the network, to that QNAP absolutely dominates in amazing fashion - it isn't even close. So let's be fair, and call it to QNAP... I would love to see Synology actually change in this, but they aren't.

I absolutely <3 my 464 that I purchased two months ago (thank you so much Robbie and NAScompares for your videos). Currently am using RAID 1 coupled with Qtier for my 2x 18tb Seagate Ironwolf Pro and 2x M.2 Samsung 2tb 970 EVO drives (the other two bays for this 4 bay are still empty atm). On top of that I got the QM2+ PCIe upgrade with two M.2 slots and the 10GbE port, for which I've already installed those slots with another 2x Samsung 2tb 970 EVO drives (one for JBOD storage and the other for SSD cache—a little icing on the cake for Qtier, I figured why not). Works like a charm; also the Ironwolf Pro 18tb barely ever click unless I'm doing some massive data xfers or scheduling, and even then just had a very low dP. Such a well future proofed and overall stress free chassis for my media, storage and VM needs 🤩

Can anyone say what has happened to the QNAP TS-464T4 Thunderbolt 4 version announced at CES 2022? Is it delayed or abandoned?

I was in the market to replace my 716+. However with Synology not upgrading hardware (mainly the 1GBE network but also the lowish processor and lock in on the NVME's) have put me off and I just replaced the hard drives. The 723+/923+ are almost the same price have a reasonable processor (I don't need the GPU) but still lack the 2.5GBE ports. The 10GBE mini card is again proprietary and just like the NVME's overpriced (twice what QNAP wants for a 10GBE card). Maybe next year...

Thanks for all the great videos! Qnap's website says the ts-464 has 8gb ram and is NON-EXPANDABLE. However, you've said it can be expanded up to 16gb. Which is correct? And, if you can use 16gb, would it be best to do 1 - 16gb stick or 2x8gb?

Woahhhh! Extra caffeine today?! LOL Love the energy and great information as always!

Very disappointed with the processor and networking on the Synology. I wanted integrated graphics so 923 not an option. If QNAP supported fluid raid like SHR then I would purchase a QNAP today but the thought of having to throw out all my drives when I fill them up to get more space is just not acceptable.
PS Great video as always but another vote for not trying to make the video a race.

Hi, great video, always check for new videos. Loved the content, but you don't need to speed up... Can you do a video like it but with the best 2, 4 and 8 bays between Synology, Qnap, TERRAMASTER e Asustor or other's.
Keep the good work,

Best regards.

I went ahead and liked before even listening cuz you’re talking so fast. Although I’ll listen through the end.

So really, this isn't a comparison hardware-to-hardware. In reality, the QNAP competitor to the Synology DS423+ is the QNAP TS-462 which in the U.S. retails for $30US less (in 2Gb form). The TS-464 is a closer competitor to the DS923+ which retails for $50US more than the QNAP.

when i add 18 TB western nas HD to qnap i hear a sound from the HD something tik tik like when u have bad sector..... noticed it new HD so why is that?

What I am lately really missing in qnap VS synology discussion is the lack of support for btrfs, and I would be interested in hearing how qnap mitigates the lack of btrfs features (like bitroth prevention) on ext4

I like this channel, but it is SUPER technical. And spitting everything out at double speed makes the title just clickbait. 😞

What is the best way to use 2.5 and 10g with a network expansion without spending thousands of dollars.

I just took possession of a TS464. My only experience with NAS’ have been Synology. I was very wary of the QNAP software in comparison to Synology, but I must say, it’s not too bad. DSM is definitely better, but I wasn’t disappointed with QTS, it does what I need it to do.

Don't worry, 10 years from now you will continue to make videos saying that Synology only supports 1GB connections.....

I can only dream of DSM 7 on the TS464,I would buy it tomorrow

Slower, please. Your "as fast as possible" presentation took more of my time to watch because I had to replay much of it. You are speaking faster than I can listen!

Please!

S l o w the heck down! As an American I cannot translate British that quickly. Your words kinda mush together into a wall of syllables, and I have to watch with closed captions on. Although watching NAS written in CC as Nazis is kinda funny, it is really hard to take it all in without getting really stressed.

The auto-generated closed captions think you're comparing two 4-bay Nazis.

I'm looking to get the Qnpa TS-664 next week. It'll be primarily used as a plex server and for local backups so the Synology software is basically useless to me where as more powerful hardware for transcoding is much more attractive to me,

Yeah, the DS423+ really is just a DS920+ without the expansion ability and with 2GB less max RAM. To be honest, I don’t really get why they didn’t just keep the 920+ in the lineup for those that need hardware transcoding.

Hearing the expression, "Moving away from the cloud", is like music to my ears. The cloud was the final nail in the coffin for the small business IT services companies. It's good to see that companies have learned their lesson - that trusting your data to the likes of Google or Amazon is like trusting your wife to a known rapist.

Great video I'm looking for a new NAS, but now I'm split 60/40 or 40/60. I guess I'll have to wait some more.

I WANT to like QNAP. They have some nice hardware and a few specific cool features. But man, I just can’t stand most of their software compared to Synology’s. DSM has always been (and will continue to be for the foreseeable future) a much cleaner, straightforward, and better looking user experience than QTS / QuTS (what’s the difference between those anyways?)

Excellent video. However, ref opening comment Synology have moved away from being relevant for home, particularly media, users. The DS 423+ scrapes in being a DS920+ but otherwise low spec compared to others.

There you go

Masterpiece ❤️ thanks for making it as fast as possible, super informative and awesome vid as usual

Just dreaming for a portable 4 bay universal SSD/nvme NAS !! With thunderbolt or 10gig Ethernet !!