Is The New Shimano 105 Di2 Really Worth The Money? | Long-Term Review

HOWEVER

I first bought the sram rival with 46 chainring and just hated it and switched immediately for 105 di with a 52 chainring. 46 is too soft, dunno how it would be the 48, didn't want to prove it. I'm really happy with my 105.

What about the longevity of di2 and Rival front and rear derailleurs vs. mechanical ?

I’ve just bought a 105 12 speed chainset on line the finish on it is awful my older style 105 is way better to the point I’m thinking of taking the chainrings off and putting them on the older model if that’s possible

The price of 105 di2 is dropping quite a bit, now being similar or even cheaper than rival in some cases.
However, I still found 105 di2 hardly attractive, it stil has stupid power cables running in your frame, a much slower FD, and you cannot use satellite buttons.

It is even harder to image shimano has cut down so many features on a groupset that is priced this expensive.

Let's say I'm a millionaire, so "whether it's worth the money or not" is moot. So, price no option, is the electronic shifter worth it?

I recently serviced my sons bike and was disappointed with the ridges on the inside of the chainring,stupid design which attracts dirt.

June 2023 and the Shimano105 set is now USD 1,190, just picked a set up yesterday. Not that hard to find at this price range, that price I stated includes taxes, so it's less than the Rival and you get the added benefit of reliability, durability. I've heard negatives about SRAM ...

Yes, this is better!

Shimano reliability over SRAM every day.

If you think that Sram is better, you dont know what youre talking about.

Says "long term review" in the title, states absolutely nothing about the longevity of the groupset at all 👍

Hi, the 105 di2 working with Shimano Shimano Dura Ace Di2 Sw-r9150?

Which helmet do you use?

Bikes at similar specs with rival groups are actually more expensive, weird.

Who else here running a Shimano 600?

Is the 12 spd 105 di2 compatible with other 12spd di2 components? (eg. Ultegra shifters but 105 rear n front derailleur vice versa…)

I had 105 since mid 80¨ties up to 2017 where I finally changed to Ultegra, when it comes to electronic, i now change to SRAM, better looking and wireless, something Shimano could learn something about, in my humble opinion

No rim version so no interest

What is schram rival ?

Why put an overpriced and overweight hydro/electro groupset on a road bike?
I hope Shimano will offer an Ultegra mechanical groupset soon or I will have to switch to Capagnolo.

just a reminder to the sram goupies that keep harping on the new 105's price point;
its still a less expensive system than Rival when built onto a bike.
The stand alone "groupset cost" isn't the metric you think it is.

I think Shimano have shot themselves in the foot. This mid range groupset is no longer mid range in price. Chinese manufacturers are already making some decent mechanical offerings for a lot less and it's only a matter of time before they make an electronic groupset for less money also. There is still gonna be a demand for a mid range mechanical groupset and my guess is, China will fill that void.

Given we are paying an extra grand I wouldn't say the same braking power as mech 105 is acceptable. I'd want it to have at least servo wave and better rotors. Speaking from experience, those poverty spec ones are crap and warp so easily

"The other really noticeable thing about them is that they don't have any cooling things like..." As it pans over a shot of brake pads with fins and slotted rotors 🙄

Really, however

I’m riding the new 105 di2 with upgraded MT800 discs on my Kinesis GTDv2. Love it. Very reliable and intuitive. Tend to ride on semi synchronised mode with a lot of steep climbs around here. It’s nice to have full control of the front derailleur. Expensive yes, enjoyable yes, regret buying…. Absolutely not! Bravo Shimano. 👏🏻

I can get a campag super record mechanical groupset for the same price and save a ton of weight. 105 di2 is a joke.

I got older model DI2 in Ultegra tbh it’s not worth the upgrade for that one 16t sprocket. As for usage Shimano is more intuitive to use than SRAM ( well for me that is ) it may simple like paddle shifts on a car ( one side up the other down ) but I could never get the shift both together to change the front rings always bodied this and dropped chain hated this white SRAM so it was always Shimano for me as it makes more sense Right for back and Left for the front then you have your respective hi/lo levers more akin to the days of cable shift 105 etc

Mechanical 105 rim/disc brake groupsets are selling for seriously low prices, £300 and £500 respectively. Why waste money on overpriced and overhyped 105 di2???

For £1700, I’d rather buy a new bike with a mechanical groupset!
Wiggle had 105 mechanical on offer for £299 (rim brake admittedly) THAT is groupset of the people money!

shall we play a drinking game, for everyone he says "however"

who care about 100g ... vs 400P ... go for sram

How is this a long term review of 105? All you do is talk about the differences between 105/Ultegra/Dura-Ace.

Or up grade to a 70s Suntour bar end friction cable shifter.. Any wheel 5 6 7 8 910 11 . keep it simple.. :0.

Having grown up Campag then spending more than a couple of decades in the shimano ecosystem , I’m quite content with being in and remaining in the Sram family

Way to expensive & no rim version, BIG mistake.

This presenter is really good in my eyes. Really enjoy his presentation style and manner

same shit every year and all others true people's groupset are abandoned from shimano... outdated AF, tourney road, claris, sora, tiagra
look at sram with mtb groupset 12s for the masses and "cheap" GX AXS wireless. sunrace with 12s with hg system that shimano claims impossible to make.
china makers making carbon & titanium components, powermeters, bearings & oversized pulleys, everything for masses to reduce cost and give the people what we want.
looking to even shimano, what have deore 10,11 and 12s newer groupsets. so i ask, we road folks have what? overpriced STIs w/o hydro-disc brakes, shit bounded metal cranks and overpriced DI2 only 105 Groupeset. SHAME! SHIMANO, SHAME!

Too expensive…. Tiagra is fine

People love Di2. Just the price tag that hold me back. 😢

It’s s ram. Not shram 🤦🏻‍♂️ after Scott ray and Stan.

1730 for 105?? that must be a typo. this suppose to be the cheap groupset.

I was looking forward to treating myself on retiring in 18 months to a new bike with Ultegra Di2, but the prices have gone mad. My current Emonda SL6 cost £2k two years ago, you won't get anywhere near that level now.
So now I think I'll either:
a. get 105 instead now and just buy an Ultegra cassette as I'm sure I can do without the hood buttons; let's be honest, most folk just control their head unit with those anyway.
b. just buy some blingier wheels and a power meter for the SL6. And a holiday.

개인적 그래블 자전거에 di2구동계 한번 해보고 싶었는데 105도 나왔네요^^ 캠핑용 트레일러 달고 다닐때 괜찮을거 같아서 보네요^^👍

I'll stick to my 105 mechanical it works just fine; all I need is more electronics in my life, not!

Any electronic group set isn't worth for sportive cyclist, unless you are racing at some highest level. I have two bikes on ultegra and one on 11s Campy, and each one costs at about new 105 gruppo alone. And, no, they're not old, when bikes was cheaper, I've built them during last one and half year.

Ugggh. That super long cage looks ugly Looks like a MTB derailleur.. Bring back the short cage! There are zillions of us who do not need granny gears.

Fun fact: Campagnolo Chorus Disc 12 mechanical to be had at approx 1.100£ currently… 😅 On a serious note, more relevant comparison would be how much is a 105 Di2 Bike? Seems you get some choice online at 3.000£ or even below that. CUBE Agree C:62 being one.