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A lot of questions asking "why don't catch cans come stock on cars?" Lots of reasons here, but some of the most obvious: 1) It's another maintenance item, and customers have a hard enough time just keeping up with oil changes. Examples like AdBlue and water injection systems, come to mind, engineers try to develop solutions around customer maintenance. 2) If a customer neglects it, the catch can fills, and then you're dumping that oil into your intake; this is worse than doing nothing at all. Then it's a liability issue for the manufacturer. 3) Ideally, a proper engineering solution to prevent carbon buildups wouldn't require any effort on the customer's part. This is where auto companies will put their focus. "How do we prevent carbon deposits." There are companies that do much better than others with DI engines. Catch cans are not the only solution. If you have an engine that suffers from carbon deposit problems, a catch can is likely to improve the system, as demonstrated in the video.
ОтветитьI have same catch can as that $100 1, but in amazon it’s 19$.. i was rong about it not working from a hoses distance, etc., but I did notice something on amazons directions, it says when cleaning, to spray this or whatever ‘back through out port to push oil back to catchcan’, which makes sense so far, BUT THEN ON OIL FILTER RECTANGULAR section, it says, ‘after brass filter, clean air only will flow out intake’🤔 - which I’m guesscing might mean most, or 1/2?, people will now be hoseing that penguin up backwards(guess their definition of intake means into engine?). anyway a direct contradiction - hUd of thunk?👋
ОтветитьI've has the $25 one on my car for about a year and a half and have not been disappointed!
ОтветитьInteresting! 😃👍
Best option: no GDI!
2nd best option: a big can, easy to drain.
3nd best option: any can is better than no can.
I'd be a bit sceptical with the filters, made if tiny bronze/brass spheres. I had such a filter in an additive can for an engine running on LPG.
The filter became heavily clogged up by gum/wax after some years. It's difficult to clean when completely clogged up.
So I'd suggest you sprayclean this filter every time when disposing the residue in the can.
One thing you forgot to mention: some engine oils create fumes/droplets that increase engine knock!!!
Thank gawd
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ОтветитьSintered solid filter
ОтветитьDoes the filter restriction cause any issues vs an engine that isn't expecting that?
ОтветитьI have an S10 I'm thinking about building and designing an oil catch can / vacuum distribution. Transfer case fluid is coming up into the vacuum system where it settles in the HVAC actuators causing the rubber to degrade and fail. The way I plan on building mine will have the oil go back into the transfer case.
ОтветитьWhy not run outlet to atmosphere and plug intake ?
ОтветитьI actually bought the $$25 one
ОтветитьI just can't believe manufacturers don't have an inline foam filter before the PCV hose enters the manifold. We had them in the 1970's! It was a part of basic maintenance to replace the filter which caught all the oil droplets and nasties before they entered the manifold.
ОтветитьWhy shouldn't a catch can work? I used a beer can on a 30,000 mile 250K4 Honda in the 80s after noticing an oil weep out of the crankcase breather tube. Caught plenty of oil and the bike went a couple of thousand miles like that. End came when blow-by got so bad that blown-by mixture ignited in the crankcase after an hour at 70 to 80 mph on the M4 going into Wales and blew out all the bottom end oil seals. Beer can was free. Rebuild was DIY and revealed that 2 rings on one pot and one on another were broken. All else was fine, but this shows that if your motor is breathing heavy, there is something wrong.
ОтветитьI use that cheap one on my vdub before my carburetor. It works well, but finding a way to mount it is difficult. It is not install friendly.
Ответитьwell yeah it works on most applications, or just let it drip down the block. appropriate that you had a Predator on the table haha. catch cans for these small engines are mostly basic reservoirs tho
ОтветитьNone of them are large enough for a decent powered turbo car. The idea is to "catch" the oil/water if you blow a headgasket or burn up ringlands. For instance a catch tank on a topfueler is the size of a garbage bin. Catching everything stops it going on your tires. What you're showing is an oil/air separation system.
ОтветитьI put the $25 catch can on my Prius. Since it doesn't have a filter, I put in half a stainless scouring pad in the bottom. It doesn't exactly filter but it keeps the oil form splashing up and out into the intake manifold. Especially in the winter time, it catches a lot of oil, water and gunk that would've gone into my cylinders via the intake manifold.
Ответитьwhat a load of dog poop! He testing NOTING so we dont know if anything works nor if any of them are better or worse..
ОтветитьFor us USA folk. that 800,000Km is about 500,000 Miles
ОтветитьSo do I not need to run a catch can if I'm port injected, even on a heavily boosted car?
ОтветитьI got a deep can with bronze filter and drain valve for less than $50.
ОтветитьI did a review on that $25 unit used on my z06 uploaded here.
Ответитьthose are thimbles .
ОтветитьAnd it's even better to have one on a turbocharged engine, because those fine [oil + unburnt things] particles can actually create some hot spots inside the cylinders and produce knock when your engine is on the limit. Modern engines know how to reduce ignition advance timings, but it's better to get rid of this this problem for good.
Ответитьweird wig choice
ОтветитьIs it really so obvious that it doesn’t need explaining; why it needs to be routed back to the intake?
ОтветитьHigh temp of gas flowing doesn't get trapped due to lack of condensation radiator (or similar device) optimal would be having a bubler type of set up in water or to prevent possible corrosion it could be bubler in diesel. Basicly something with high smoke point yet enough thermal capacity to maintain lower (oil and water condensating temp).
Water: 4.18 J/g°C
Brass: 0.38 J/g°C (varies depending on the exact composition)
Oil (varies based on type): Generally around 2.0 - 2.5 J/g°C
Tell me if i missed something or why this would be a bad idea?
Absolutely a must for BMW e46. If you attach the catch can input to the drain on the dipstick tube it the can can be hidden under the intake tube yet still simple to access for maintenance.
ОтветитьHad one on my Golf R (Stage 2, APR) for 5 years and have yet to collect even a drop of anything in my catch can. My mechanic can't figure it out either. My ride must be tight!
ОтветитьDo you need an oil catch can for the S2000 or K20 Honda?
ОтветитьAir oil separators are even better than catch cans because they automatically deposit the oil condensed from the vapor back into the oil pan. They cost around $300 in parts to install.
ОтветитьWhat are your thoughts on using one in sub zero temperatures, considering much of the fluid in the can is water?
ОтветитьWhere is the rest of this series???
ОтветитьPorsche has an Oil Colalesing filter system that does not need emptying. I have a Pirren unit for my Subaru Turbo XT too that just replaced the oil filler cap. You do NOT want oil inside the intercooler at all.
A coalescing filter system removes oil by forcing oily PVC air through a housing that makes the air change direction. When the air changes direction and collides into itself, it forces any oil to coalesce, or stick together. This creates drops which are caught on the outer screen and gain mass, then forced down into the lower housing by gravity.
What about oil and air seperator catch can?
ОтветитьIt also causes piston ring coking. Which makes the piston rings stick in the piston groove. Now your compression will decrease and oil consumption will increase. A oil catch can will eliminate this problem.
ОтветитьHow much oil can an oil catch can catch if an oil catch can can catch oil?
ОтветитьHi Sir I getting a very Excellent Quality 3 Port Oil Catch can from one of Aliexpress Stores for a price of NZ $42.50 & I'm going to make up a bracket for it so it will fit the PT Cruiser & also buying high tempature ID 10mm Black 5 M Silicone hose for NZ $34.19 & cut pieces of hose to so it fit nicely to fit to the 2 inlets on the oil catch can & the outlet fitting on the oil catch can to the intake manifold as I have one hose from No 1 rocker cover & the one from the PCV valve No 2 rocker cover Kind Regards Peter PS this 0il Catch Can has a brass fine filtering system & has a baffle & tap at the bottom of the oil catch can as well & so I can drain it & a filter at the top of it & it is well made too Sir
ОтветитьThis sounds like complete nonsense. If piston blowby is causing oil to be blown out of the crankcase, the oil level on the dipstick will be going down and that indicates an engine overhaul is required. Some deposits on the inlet valve are the least of the problems. Also, don't I understand that modern emgines have oil catch facilities built into the crankcase and the collected oil just drains back into the oil pan?
ОтветитьI just let the oil mist and blow to blow out under my car!
ОтветитьWhy not use old beer can😂?
ОтветитьThought using Mazda Skyactiv 2.5 Turbo?
ОтветитьOn the cheap one, the baffle unscrews and you can put some steel wool or similar In it
ОтветитьHey Jason I have the new hybrid accord it’s direct injection. Is it any different from other direct injections ?
ОтветитьSo which brand should i get feom the 100$ cc
ОтветитьJason, this was such important info. I trust your advice more than any other - there seems to be a logical disconnect. If Catch Cans work - why the heck don't manufactures put these on your engine? I don't subscribe to the angle that all companies are pushing engineered obsolescence, and therefore I can't understand why every GDI engine isn't designed with this in line. The only other answer is in fact designed obsolescence, and they want people to purchase a new vehicle at 100K miles?
ОтветитьHi i have a question doesnt the bronze filter creates more crankcase pressure im scared to put it on my 2.3 focus st i need advice
ОтветитьDon't need them unless you're running high compression, Turbos or a supercharger.
ОтветитьI’m disappointed. All you did in case of oil catch cans comparison is just presenting the features. If anyone was serious looking for the answer if he should pay more for “better” catch can, he didn’t get the answer. Some features might look good on paper and sometimes they even can justify higher cost, but that doesn’t mean that in real life situations there will be any significant difference.
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