458 Socom vs 45-70: Completely Different On Mild Steel

Those were not govt were they? the 45/70 what were they? Who do you use for your music tracks? Thanks,T

Always great! diggin the tunes.. perfect. I was supprised for the socom actually. The 45/70
Mag was fairly visible that it was hot.

The 45-70 stock has a lot of drop at the butt. It makes it a cheek slapper

Always wanted to build a stubby SBR with folding stock and integral suppressed barrel in 458 socomm.

The ultimate FAFO firearm 😂

Nice work, thanks.

That “vise” looks sooooooooooooo cheap. Chinesium

Try the 45-120 haha

Okay, let's see how .45-70 stacks up against the mighty .450 Marlin!

If 458 socom can’t even penetrate mild steel, then why use it at all? Most rifle rounds will shred through mild steel with no problem. The 458 seems like a waste and just dumb…..

Why did you modify your voice in post?

For some reason I have the urge to watch....... Everybody Loves Raymond

Where'd you get ahold of 300 grainers going 2300 fps out of an 18.5" barrel? I need some of those.

I like these videos

Do .458 SOCOM v. .450 Bushmaster. More valid comparison.

Great vid...totally unrelated but your voice and face do not match.

That is the neatest reloading bench I've ever seen....

Shoulder firing the 45-70 is much nicer on the body. Bench for whatever reason makes it seem worse than it is.

Wonder what one of the buffalo bore 45/70 loads would do?

Still being relevant after 150 years is the difference.

Bros voice is like that dude from the Oak Ridge Boys lol

45/70 is a beast in the no -trapdoor variety.

maybe don't use a Harbor Freight $10.00 drill press vise and it won't crack.

That 45.70 can chamber a 500 GR bullet try that.

Ew. Disgusting Bose ad.

Perhaps if the vice hadn't broke, and there was no give, the round may have penetrated!

458 bent the entire plate but did not pass. Any additional tests may be skewed due to plate bend

The rifles are designed for different jobs as well though. I load .458 SOCOM and I've got some bullets that are 576gr. Are there projectiles for the .45-70 in this weight?

Not even close but a 458 soco. With a 325 ahornady FTX will penatrate 4 milk jugs of water an uncarved pumpkin and the inch and a half thick board you put behind everything so you could capture the bullet at 50 yds. It's a beast of a cartridge it's fantastic and an AR platform

Impressive!

Ray Ramano 😂

Great video. Your velocity with the .45-70 indicates you were using H4198 or IMR 4198 minimum powder charges. My reload is 53.7 grains of IMR 4198 under a 300 grain Hornady HP with 2300 fps which equates to over 3500 ft.lbs. of energy.
It shoots sub MOA at 100 yards and even with a minimum starting load enough guts for anything you can hunt in North America. It would be interesting to see what a hard cast lead would do instead of the traditional cup and core bullet on steel or any other medium you could imagine. I think it would be unstoppable. Keep bringing 'em, Banana.

A FMJ of ballistic tipped bullet will work better for both rounds. Soft points are for expansion and damage to tissue.

Chamber pressures are WAY different.

Haha massive bulge

What type of magazine are you using for the 458 socom?

You didn’t compare mild steel to wild steel so your experiment doesn’t like, count or something.

You used HP rounds on the .45-70, how would standard .45-70 rounds compare to the .458 SOCOM?

Almost a DECADE at MidwayUSA? Oh my young friend... I'm glad you like them. I've loved Midway for longer than I can remember. 😊

My dads favorite rifle to teach shooting with, at twelve it kicked like a mule The bruises were all earned, he called me
Old dead eye His 44magnum was almost as bad

Caldwell Lead-sled Brother.

Caldwell Lead-sled Brother.

Try the 450 Bushmaster

What range . give it some content. To close not full power to far not

If it didn't break the brace it would have went thru

I have a Ruger No 1 in 45-70, and you will definitely feel it with "Ruger only" hot loads. I would like to see how the 45-70 does on mild steel with a 500 gr. monolithic solid and a max load of powder.

you got your calibers mixed up its .450 bushmaster which is the 45-70 out of a AR ........ still cant touch the hi end 45-70 loads.

Anyone know who makes a 45/70 that can take the hot loads? I've shot an original 1874 cavalry carbine with a drop block. It was actually pretty fun to shoot, don't know what the load was it was a long time ago.

450 bushmaster please