Home Server PC build with Proxmox - cheap, quiet, powerful

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the level of qulityin your content you are a complete university my friend i wanted to host some websites i am thinking of doing it in my home lab server so i am researching about and your content is just mazing

What is your power draw with this system in idle and load?

will this work a media server for a couple of people ?

Stop using userbenchmark site.

The ECC dram can cost as much as the whole rig by itself.

I’m wanting to do a few things a true nas jellyfin/plex and was hoping to do a opensense router all in proxmox is that possible with a 1700x ryzen cpu and 64g ram and an old 1080 ti It’s some old hardware I have laying around and wanting to try this stuff out

And DO NOT RUN ZFS on those SSDs when using Proxmox, since these are consumer grated SSDs. Anyway, I did went for consumer SSDs still instead of Enterprise but I will not use ZFS pools. Again.. Look out with ZFS!!

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Userbenchmark is 100% biased and uses fake data. Don't use it, it's really a scam.

I want my own home server but I have energy consuming concerns because it’s going to be turned on 24 hours.

Planning a rather powerful home server myself right now and found that seemingly unnecessary decisions like the power supply, result in a rather huge impact.
What I mean is, first I wanted to go with a cheap new 90€ 450W 80Plus Gold PSU, but then I started to look at the efficiency curves.... Got a used Dark Power 11 550W for 60€ now, which is 80 Plus Platinum, which will save me a couple of watts. And at the current energy prices each watt less saves me around 0,25€ a month.
PSUs especially in the very low loads (idle), can be very inefficient and there are rather huge differences between different PSUs.... But it is a pain in the ass to find a efficiency test for every PSU. Especially low power efficiency tests down to like 5% load.

My system will be: Ryzen 7 5700x, 32GB DDR4 3200 ECC, 4x 4TB Seagate Ironwolf, 2x 1TB Gen4 NVMe SSD, 4x 256GB NVMe SSD

One of the 1TB SSDs is dedicated for my VMs, no redundancy needed.
All the other SSDs are because I am going fully fledged ZFS. So 1TB L2ARC, 2x 256GB SSDs mirrored for ZIL / LOG, 2x256GB mirrored as Special Device.
HDDs are going in a raidz1. If HDDs are full I can just add 4 more drives as a new vdev.

I can tell, it was a crazy adventure to spec a small form factor system like that with a micro ATX Board.
And there are so many little things to consider, I just love it :D

Like do I go with dual-rank or single-rank memory. 2400Mhz memory and 64GB or 3200 Mhz and only 32GB. What are the different software solutions. Do I go with Hypervisors like Proxmox, ESXi, etc or do I go instant with Homeserver solutions like TrueNAS or UnRaid. What filesystem?
So many little decisions. Yeah, many of them just have a very little impact, but they have.

they arent loud because they are professional ... they are loud because they are cheap

I've had poor experiences with Dell workstations, between acting as dust magnets to the point cleaning it required masks or looking away when taking an air compressor to the inside, and proprietary components making replacements nigh impossible.

Do you have any idea what the average power consumption is for you? Idle and under load? Thanks!

Hello. Congratuations to the setup and the video. But my question is: and the graphic card to this processor?

Zfs by design does not require ecc

most consumer intels don't support ECC while all Ryzen CPUs do( though not all AM4 mainboards). You can run an AMD rig with no GPU, you'll just have no graphical ouput besides a tty. This is enough if SSH and webservers are all you need(proxmox).

Great suggestions. I'm rebuilding my NAS this week, and it seems more difficult to spec' full ECC than it was 10 years ago when I put the original system together with Supermicro mobo, ECC UDIMMs and Intel i3 CPU w/ ECC support. The new TrueNAS server will be a nice platform for file storage and to play around with some of the tools you cover in your fantastic walk-throughs. Thanks

Hi, I'm new to the proxmox server scene and lovin it. I really enjoy your content. I have a small question. When you install proxmox on let's say a 500gb boot disk, it takes the entire disk. Is there a possibilty to use the non-used space to store for instance iso's and how do I do that? Can't seem to find information about it. Thx. Grtz Dirk from Belgium (Europe)

This was a great video. However, I need to repurpose an old Dell XPS 8700 PC.

It has an I7-4790 with 4 cores and 8 threads

It can take up to 32 GB of non-ECC Ram

I want to use it to store family pictures and videos and as a plex server... Will it cut the mustard, or should I pull the plug on it? Since I am also replacing my PC, my budget is limited

What's your power consumption with this hardware?

Personally I'm looking to have an old dell r320 as a Sophos firewall and a file server, maybe a media server also but the last one is not a priority

Just discoverd your channel. Nice one! Sub! Btw, are you from austria? If so, greetings from vienna ;-)

I am using the i5 10400 and 32GB of ram and samsung 500gb 870 evo plus nvme in my home server. Proxmox with 3 ubuntu server vms (pi hole, mail server with iredmail, minecraft server) and 2 windows 10 pro vms (used for remote access). Its so good. I snaged it up for 140EUR and what was a deal for me is that it has integrated graphics. I have another server i5 6500 that runs only windows server 2022 for active dir and as a nas server and as well as a vpn (all home computers are windows as you see)

Hey, this is a bit older video, but did you have any issues with the Realtek RTL8111H network card that's on that board? Most AMD motherboards have that and I just wanna be sure it's compatible as I know Proxmox is a bit picky with network cards.

Very cool video, however there's one caveat : never use a normal SSD for your ZFS volumes, even for caching ! ZFS is very intensive on read and write, and it will kill your non-pro drives very rapidly.
Apart from that, I built my new homelab about two months ago and just found out your video, I am glad I did it right because my setup is quite similar to yours !

Can you please post an in-depth video where the virtual machines are deployed? I am new to this stuff.
Also, if I just want a dedicated server for docker containers, do you recommend proxmox or simple os with say ssh? Thanks.

Hello, could you make a tutorial on how to spin-down hdd in Proxmox? thanks in advance!

Using user benchmark as a comparison between intel and amd is a risky business.. They are obviously anti AMD and their results are always skewed in favour of intel in comparisons. So if they comeout even in the comparisons in real life it means a win for AMD.

Man, my server consists of 2 e5-2470's from 2012, 10 years old, but it still does really well for my use case, but the top PCIE slot doesn't work with x16 length cards, it just wont post, but x8 or lower it works fine for some reason., I just need more storage.

there are enough cheap and very fast cpu with high threadcount and gpu by AMD! (look for a "g" at the end of the amd cpu names)

The story about ECC was very confusing. If you run non-ecc memory any file system might be destroyed by intermittent errors. Also ext4 and ntfs use free memory to store disk records, disk administration and log entries. If they are corrupted in the memory and written back to disk, the results might be catastrophic. Intermittent memory errors will destroy any file system. If you want to avoid the minimal chance of intermittent memory errors, use ECC memory for any file system. Of course, if you use 64GB of memory, the chance on memory errors will be 4 times higher than with 16GB of memory.

I have confidence in my non-ECC memory and for more than 4 years I use ZFS without any issue on desktop with 16GB DDR4 (3000MHz); on laptop with 8GB DDR3 (1333MHz) and on my Pentium 4 backup-server with 1.5GB DDR (400MHz). The one time I had memory issues with one of the four 512MB sticks, the Pentium 4 crashed during start-up, when passing the 1GB boundary :) Which show that it is wise to run a memory test after changing memory or in case of doubt.

Cheap ? 😂😂🤣🤣🤣. You can buy enterprise server way more powerful bi Xeon 32 core and 32 ecc GB for 200$

I would now recommend AMD Ryzen 7 1700 as they can be bought for very cheap and are amazing CPUs , pair that with some good value RAM and some SSDs, i would recommend using Samsung 850 to 850 EVO SSDs, then a nice power efficient power supply, be sure to calculate what each individual component uses in your server then times the power draw by 1.5x then total all power and once again times by 1.5x to not only give you a little bit of head room but also to make sure all components have sufficient enough power bandwidth! :D

Why do you virtualize TrueNAS instead of running it natively bare metal?

I want to build a NAS/home server, and I am trying to figure out what specs I should have. It seems to hang on whether I want to use VMs or not.

What’s the purpose of using VMs? Like, I think I understand the point of docker - preserve a clean environment where processes run in separate docker containers and contaminate each other by sharing same space.

But I don’t understand why people would need to run VMs on their home server and why you would run your NAS operating system (TrueNAS in your case) in a VM. Wouldn’t it have better performance if it runs natively? What’s the benefit?

What other uses do VMs have on a NAS/Home server?

Thanks!

A comment about data corruption. Its really important to know when data is corrupted because backup retention is not indefinite. If you find out too late, then its not in the backup and the data wont be recoverable. (Always scrub your data)

In my opinion, ZFS isn't worth it for home systems. It requires INSANE amounts of resources and gives back very little. Amahi, on the other hand, can run on a single 1ghz thread with 1gb of ram and do pretty much the same thing. And as long as you make backups or use raid you should be fine for data redundancy.

Hi looking at your KIT site, the RAM is different from you video and is it ECC compatible, doesnt appear to be?

in my region, it's very difficult the find this particular ram, are the KTD-PE424E model usable?

Are there still issues with AMD motherboard LAN controllers from Realtek having issues with the likes of VMWare?

For zfs i believe they recommend 1gb of ram per gb of storage.

Quiet, efficient, powerful and not too expensive 👏
How satisfied you are with it now @TheDigitalLife?
Would you recommend some newer AMD now (maybe 5700G)?
Could we expect early 2022 edition of it soon ? ;)

Can you please recommend on sata PCIE extension for additional ports? That would work with IOMMU?

what microphone u use? ur voice very clear n loud

How do you manage this server? Do you have any video about pikvm?

What is your opinion on Dual CPU servers for virtualization with Proxmox?