Ocean class - Guide 324

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the fact that someone who crewed a ship of the line could have seen a dreadnought is wild. the pace of technological development in the 19th and eatly 20th centuries was insane.

Its worth mentioning how badly the french royal navy suffered from the revolution.

This video got me thinking: What about making a video on the history of standardized ship designs?

Great! I was just researching these ships a bit - and then a Drachinifel video on them!

as someone in Québec pointed out to me concerning my french...
"you sound like an englishman, speaking french",
which is better than an englishman shouting
at a french (or any other language) person on the assumption
that volume somehow improves comprehension.

I have a question for anyone in the know why didn't a crew try to scuttle their ship to avoid it's capture

Love your work!!!

French, making better ship of the line than the english since Sane Class

It's quite interesting how a good portion of the French Fleet ended up serving in the royal Navy.

Suggestion for a ship review: floating brewery HMS Menestheus.

Just a suggestion maybe the CSS Shenandoah history, never posted before bu have been watching for a long time (Years I think)

Can you talk about navy and submarines during the 1936-39 Spanish civil War

Minimum necessary poop deck ... he he he

Man, you're starting to get Winnie the Pooh syndrome in your throat. Need a hot steam after your travels or otherwise go back to your old audio equipment if that's the case.

AS a sailor, you hear how it is bad luck to rename a boat or ship. I couldn't help but think of this throughout your video!

This is Take Two

(Sorry my first comment was so jumbled it even gave me a headache so lets try this again)

First of all, The FN (?) Ship Ocean video was super great. Thank you for it. Also could you do a video on United States Battleships Philadelphia, Franklin, Ohio, Pennsylvania etc (All have 3 gun decks) And could you explain why the US Government did not commission many of our early Battleships into service (leaving them to rot on the slipways) I know for a fact (I am a US and Military Historian) that USA had the money for at least 20 to 40 Battleships. But it seems as if the US Government was afraid to spend any money at all. (A case in point to prove that US Government was afraid to spend Money. In the early years of the USA (1800 ish) There was a need to make improvements to already existing roads. A bill was passed in Congress only to be Vetoed by President Jefferson who said it cost too much. (In my opinion it did not (cost too much) and this proves the US Government was afraid to spend money (Shrugs)) Sorry for the politics just a bit put off that the US Government would be so stingy to let our strongest military units rot away. Thank you kind sir for reading this letter.

Been waiting years for the 50+ min Temeraire-class 74 video... How can we make this happen? I'll assist in research as much as needed.

Unfortunatelly the information about the Stsma Trinidad is wrong.
She only stayed as a floating pond until the works to be done were agreed. On 1796 she was almost dismantled and rebuilt. Decks lowered and breath increased. Lenght was also enlarged mostly at the stern allowing for a lot better water flow to the rudder. As i said almost the whole work was rebuilt.
Admiral Collingwood appreciate her so much that after Trafalgar tried to tow the ship by all means. Only the arrival of a fresh fleet made him order to blow the Trinidad up and scape to Gibraltar.
Hustory is not what we'd like, but what is was.

wood yes, sail yes, steam yes, steel yess, french?...ok

The 110 diminutives were mainly designed to be build in the port of Antwerp. A little known fact is that Napoleon was making this his main fleet base and arsenal and SOL were built on 19 slips for SOL and 5 for frigates en masse there.

The oldest docks in Antwerp were built under Napoleon (with more in the works) to have room for 40 SOL. By 1812 these docks had 21 SOL and 7 frigates (44 gun types) in them while 10 80'ies and 4 110 gun ships a few 74'ies and 5 44 gun frigates were under construction. Meanwhile the material was being collected for the next batch of ships consisting of 80'ies and Océan type 120'ies. As these were never laid down and remained in the very preliminary planning stage they are not listed in fleet lists.

After 1815 the naval yard was completely dismantled and today only the docks for the ships remain.

fascinating story: Antwerp the forgotten naval arsenal.

Say what you want. These tall ships look simply amazing.

Are you planning to cover Santisima Trinidad? In the maritime museum of Havana (Castillo de la Real Fuerza) there's a beautiful model.

Hey capteen my capteen!!
I got a zinger for you.

What's the name of the only Royal Naval Ship that never Traveled in any direction??

Don't be a poon and look it up either 🥚

The Ancien Regime, when white flags meant something different 🤫

I look forward to 5 minute guide.

French.

Still bitter about that Citroën so pass.

Hi Drach!!! Very, very nice video as always. Can you also make a video of the British Neptune-class 98-gun 2nd rates??

Over 5,000 ton displacement sailing ship?😳 Behemoth doesn't even begin to describe how big that is. Two surfaced alfa class subs don't displace that much.

absolutely beautiful ships. Orient was majestic and powerful, right up until the moment she repositioned herself all over Aboukir Bay at high speed.

Okay, this was a total... Ship Show. .... haha. Enjoyed the show, Carry On!

Very topical as I'm reading Julian Stockwins " Quartedeck."

People wonder why the ships back then weren't saved as museum ships. As far as the military is concerned, ships are just a very expensive weapon of war, similar to a rifle. When the weapon no longer serves its purpose, it is discarded, be it a ship or a rifle. The military only has a limited budget, and is supposed to use that budget for weapons of war. If the ship is to be saved as a museum, it's up to the civil government or non government entities to spend the money to preserve and maintain the ship. It's only been relatively recent that the public has been willing absorb such costs. Sometimes we seem to blame the military for not preserving such magnificent ships.

🐉Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club Member 1968🐉

Sadly, the Marseille museum was closed when I was there, some 25years ago. Although, Chataeu D'if was a liberty day well spent.

Ah the French. They are a curious race.

Drach do you know that all of your vids are 50% lower in volume than ALL other videos I watch? Bit of a pain to jack ur vol up then down after.

I for one appreciate the lost technology that allows the pre-steamship vessel images to be a higher quality than the WW1 vessels. 😉

What was the rate of fire for muzzle loading cannon, and, did this rate vary greatly with the cannon size?

Well, you gotta give it to the French. Some of their late 18th century naval designs are very, very pleasing.

Great video, Drach.

The lower gundeck looks to be about 7° of heel from taking in water unless the gunports seal VERY well.

How fortunate we are to have actual photographs of these magnificent beasts. Shame the French were better shipbuilders than they were fighters. In competent hands, these ships could have been quite a threat.

Aside: I faintly remember reading somewhere that the L'Ocean class that the Brits captured was given sea trials by them, and the Brits were impressed that it maneuvered more like a frigate rather than a 1st Rate (despite not being amazingly fast); however, they also found it less sturdy than an average 1st Rate of the time.

France lost more ships port then in battle it seems

More age of sail content please!

And here I was wondering why there were no large oak trees in France! Now I know, they chopped down innumerable oak forests to build their navy!

Thanks Drach

Can one even imagine the crews' sanitation conditions on these monstrous primitive gondolas?

How many members of this class or "recruited" to the British Royal Navy?