Are REMOTE RES shocks REALLY worth it? How much better are they? Suspension options in detail!

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Living in the cape and traveling the PDR many times a year, standard aftermarket shocks have never lost performance.
That test machine doesn’t reflect on road conditions.

Why are you bouncing on ya seat?your teeth are chattering on the rough road

In a country like Canada where salt is everywhere, like in the rain, on the roads and so on. Teraflex falcon shocks is best suited for Canada. It's like the mysterious red dirt found everywhere in Australia, which took a tolled on vehicles especially the underneath (vitals). Toyota or Nissan was a go to 4wd in the past with a big engine like V6 Or V8 (diesel mostly), however now mid-sized 4 cylinders utes like ISUZU- Dmax, Nissan Navara, Toyota Hilux, Mazda BT-50, Mitsubishi Triton, Mahindra Scorpio pick-upetc. Are getting more popular in Australia

So we just skip twin tube vs mono??

Well, I am not going to get under my FJ every day to adjust the suspension settings. I use Walker-Evans and I figure set it and forget it.

I’d go aF4r next time. Love the change ability

look more this to go wrong ! K I S S ( keep it simple stupid )

After over 20 year's of 4wding in many different vehicles. Shocks have always been a talking point. The usual shocks being advertised and sold are a twin tube 4wd shock. They are marketed as being much better offroad due to having another tube allegedly protecting the internal tube. Yet what they don't tell you is that the twin tube style of shock has its gas in-between the outer and inner tube and a much smaller diameter inside. They do not have more protection than a monotube shock yet they suffer from major fatigue due to he heat and the smaller oil/gas capacity. If you look at every offroad competition vehicle. They all have monotube shocks with separate oil/gas reservoirs. The bores are much bigger and they displace heat a lot quicker than any of the double tube shocks. I have found Monotube shocks offer outstanding performance off and on road and much better value in comparison to any of the twin tube alleged 4wd shocks.

I like the idea of adjustability, but will I actually use it? No, not the reasons for adjustibility, but would I actually go around and make the changes? I am inherently lazy. I do not really change my tyre pressures based on load, I don't change my graphic equaliser based on the music I am playing, I don't change how I salt or sweeten foods or drinks based on taste. I just do what I have always done. So, while I agree, a great idea, I probably would never use. Other than to brag about.

You don’t need adjustable shocks on a road car or 4x4. They are for competition use. The average owner of a tourer isn’t going to understand the complexity of adjusting bump & rebound or spend the time adjusting them every time they go off road. Thanks for sharing 👍🏻👍🏻🙃🙃

can see them making a difference if your racing short coarse trucks trying to shave off a few seconds per lap.

98% of the time you'll be OK with the aftermarket, the remote res is awesome if money are not object but most of the time an overkill...

Remote reservoir shocks are in a similar category to "Race" brakes for a racing car. No one disagrees they are superior in performance, but they really need to be warmed up and used hard to work as intended. If they are stone cold and moving tiny amounts on a highway, the piston isn't travelling enough to cycle the oil through to the remote reservoir. This is why companies like Ironman recommend foam cell or big bore as a more appropriate compromise for 4x4s

“Soaks absolutely everything up”

Yet we can hear the idiots voice warbling from being shaken and vibrated around…

Credibility plus and hasn’t quite grasped the technical aspects fully.

Love the Fulcrum lift kit for my Pajero Sport with Formula shocks and King springs. Rides so much better day to day, towing the van and offroad.

Ive messaged fulcrum about these sets on the np300, cant wait til they got these ready for us. Been following this product since lastyear and its a bloody teaser ahaha love the color aswell itll suit my set up 🙏💯

Great info as always cheers!

fair technical video ! 📹🛻😎🤙

With the ifs vehicles what diff drop are you guys using?

Always best to get a shock you can tune to what you are using it for.

These things are over the top and unnecessary for 90% of 4x4ers. For daily driving and most tracks you’re not feeling any difference. Plus there’s more pieces to fail. I have had landcruisers with both and wouldn’t waste the money on remote res.

OldEmu is good

Anyone here know any good/lenient rwc guys in brizzy/logan/gc? Picking up my first patrol tomorrow and super keen to get it on the road

I’ve got bilstine on my 3rd gen 4Runner no ress

Jesus, that hurt to listen to...
Remote reservoir shocks main benefit is the piston in the reservoir... If you don't have the piston you have either air or nitrogen just sitting over the oil, which means you form emulsion as you work the shock harder over time, especially off road.... Because the piston separates the gas from the liquid they can't form an emulsion...
Similarly the adjusters either allow a bypass needle or a bleed stack to adjust the restriction in flow to the res... Neither of these are in teh damping shim stack, that's on the damper piston... Inside teh shock body.

Cooling most significantly effected by shock body diameter, and normally also the monotube design allows better cooling air access to the shock bodies and damping oil. Cooling isn't significantly effected by whether or not the shock has a remote reservoir.

When you're talking about shock adjustability it's meaningless if you don't specify whether it's compression or rebound, whether it's high speed or low speed... If the manufacturer can't tell you then it's a good reason not to buy from them... This happens a lot when people import shocks from China, Taiwan or Thailand and then market them as theirs... They normally don't know how they actually work...

Anyway, I'd be interested in a proper review and discussion one day...

This isn’t about cars 🫡😂😂Iykyk

I guess in reality the compression rate and speed of compression rate in the real world will be much lower as there is no way even on bad corrugations that the shocks will be moving that quick and hard due to the limited speeds you can go. So the key would be, is there still a temp difference and wear difference at lower speeds and compression rates? If the temps are the same at lower speeds then they are overkill, but if there is still a big temp difference and wear difference at lower speeds then they are worth it.

It may simply be the test speeds that are used are creating more heat in the OEM shocks. In the real world the temps maybe the same until you really go up in speeds. I'm sure oils work better at different temps too so I'm sure some oils will like the higher temp better.

It'd be nice to have them on my 4by but I don't own a ranger and that's all fulcrum make at the moment

I had a GVM upgrade from new by Pedders. Not a reservoir or adjustable valve body on any of it.
I still run those original shocks, the ride is so good still.
I have Bundutop RTT along with complete floor to roof storage system, this Pedders GVM upgrade system has good body roll control whilst offering very good control over corrugations, rough terrain with excellent flex. Was pricey, worth every cent.
All in all, very impressed with ride comfort of my Pedders secondary manufacturer GVM GU Patrol.

We run bp51s they’re great shocks too

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That shock dyno has my mind in the gutter😂

Does anyone have any experience with West Coast Suspension shocks or Tough Dog shocks? Looking for some feedback

I am curious which size remote shock i need for mine 8 inch lifted F350 2002 the leaf springs around are pretty stiff because of the shocks that came with the kit i really like to have more flex so probably i need longer shocks

No needfor them. Just a gimmick to bleed more cash out of people.

The right shock for me Has to be at a Price suited to me...These are Not them

Can you adjust compression and rebound… springs carry the load and not shock absorbers. Stiffer springs stop the vehicle rolling in corners with sway bars….shock absorbers help slow the spring compression and rate of rebound….or am I missing the point…

One of my big considerations, and one that wasn't mentioned, was cost.

I think I’ve decided on some new shocks. Great vid boys

I'm in nz and need my shocks rebuilt. Does anyone do it over here?

Sell me sootys old shocks when you get new ones 👍🏻

how many people really adjust their shocks i been on hundreds of trips with hundreds of people never seen anyone laying underneath fine tuning their ride ?

hang hang is this a 4x4 show or spare parts store less and less adventures here thank god graham on point

In a old 75 series u just need something to get the job done 😊

WHAT ISUZU 300 NPS 75 CREW CAB TRUCK 4X4 WITH 5000KG ?

Thanks for the info keep it up 👍

I drive a GU, do you think I care about ride comfort?