The Torah (the Jewish Bible) and the Old Testament are not the same

Why is jesus denied still?.

No reference of the Messiah in the Torah and tanahk is the biggest lie I heard all day 🤣

Here’s two just for you

➖ ”Binding his foal unto the vine, And his ass's colt unto the choice vine; He washed his garments in wine, And his clothes in the blood of grapes: His eyes shall be red with wine, And his teeth white with milk.“
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭49‬:‭11‬-‭12‬ ‭KJV‬‬

➖ ”Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.“
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭7‬:‭14‬ ‭KJV‬‬

And this is why He called y’all the synagogue of satan, full of lies

➖ ”I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.“
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭2‬:‭9‬ ‭KJV‬‬

➖ ”Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.“
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭3‬:‭9‬ ‭KJV‬‬

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Also the title of the video is incorrect.
You wrote Torah instead of Tanakh.
The Torah is included in the Tanakh.
And the Tanakh is essentially the Christian Old Testament with some variations depending on wether you are reading a Catholic Bible or an Orthodox Bible or Protestant Bible or even Ethiopian Orthodox Bible which has the most books of all with 81 and some reaching over 100 again depending on which church you are enquiring of.

You really proved how little you know in this very short clip, lol. I suggest you get studying if you’re going to “educate” the world on these matters.

God bless you and give you wisdom. May He lead you in all truth. 🙌🔥❤️✝️🙏😊

No Christian says Judaism and Christianity are one and the same, that is so silly. We merely acknowledge the Messiah, you don’t. Apparently you’re still waiting for him and yet have not had a prophet for 2000 years. Funny that.

You made a claim but provided no evidence whatsoever to support your claim. I understand this is a short and there is not much time but you didn’t even give us one piece and on top of that you’re actually (mostly) wrong.

There are a few things to address and a few complexities to this but it’s not all that complex though, it’s pretty simple and it’s actually you who is at fault and who does not understand what Christianity is. I say this with respect but just being direct and to the point.

Christianity is merely the continuation of Judaism so to speak, you guys are waiting for the Messiah we are not. We acknowledge him, he is Jesus, so we believe everything you believe and more.

Also the Talmud is not of God and contains much evil. Well at least aspects of it anyway as it is such a large body of commentaries of commentaries of commentaries…

And we absolutely have not been “taught” these things. We have discovered them through study. The world would be shocked to see how much time Christians spend studying. I have not ever seen any church teach once the things you are claiming we just know them because we read. Not saying no church has ever taught it though lol.

The only difference between the Torah and the Christian Old Testament is that the Protestant version excludes a handful of books but the Catholic Bible does not exclude them and also the orthodox Bible has a few more again and then the Ethiopic Bible has even more books again.

But you would find many Christians are open to these books even though their Protestant Bibles do not contain them.

Like myself for example, I’m currently reading the first book of Adam and Eve and the Testament of the 12 patriarchs and other apocryphal books .

Christain worship a man
Jews worship The God

Proverbs Chapter 30 מִשְׁלֵי

עָלָה-שָׁמַיִם    וַיֵּרַד,
מִי אָסַף-רוּחַ בְּחָפְנָיו    מִי צָרַר-מַיִם בַּשִּׂמְלָה--
מִי,    הֵקִים כָּל-אַפְסֵי-אָרֶץ:
מַה-שְּׁמוֹ וּמַה-שֶּׁם-בְּנוֹ,    כִּי תֵדָע. 4 Who hath ascended up into heaven, and descended? {N}
Who hath gathered the wind in his fists? Who hath bound the waters in his garment? {N}
Who hath established all the ends of the earth? {N}
What is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou knowest?
ה  כָּל-אִמְרַת אֱלוֹהַּ צְרוּפָה;    מָגֵן הוּא, לַחֹסִים בּוֹ. 5 Every word of God is tried; He is a shield unto them that take refuge in Him.

the jewish talmud says it's ok for a rabbi to marry a three year old girls. it also says rape isn't rape. it also says child rape victims get the virginity back time and time again. it also says having sex with a child is "nothing".

all religions are the same, completely false.

“If you believed Moses, you would believe Me, for he wrote of Me” (Jn 5:46)

Christians are OUT OF THEIR MINDS if they truly believe that they worship the same god as the Jews. It’s as simple and GOD and GODS. Monotheism and polytheism. Ask any orthodox rabbi. Try telling them about your trinity😂

The “Old Testament” in the Christian bibles has absolutely been mistranslated corrupted and tampered with. There’s no argument about this. It’s just a fact that you need to be honest with yourself about.

Isaiah 53

Do me a favor and in chapter 5 of Genesis, within the Torah, there is a list of names from Adam to Noah.... write them down with the meanings of each name. Then read it... Yeshua Jesus is in the Torah. 1 corinthians 15:1-4 is the Gospel.

Christians believe Christ was the fulfillment of the Abrahamic covenant, and Christ professed all scriptures were true. Yes, the Catholic Bible has some additional books, but they are historical books that were in the Septuagint, and aren’t “wrong” necessarily. As a Protestant I do encourage all my Christian brothers and sisters to read those books.

We believe Christ was the perfect sacrifice and ended the need for the priestly sacrifices, and the temple is no longer needed since God has given every believer the Spirit. So God doesn’t need a physical earthly place (as if even Solomon’s temple with all its gold and beauty was ever good enough for the creator of all things). We believe his coming is prophesied in multiple places such as in Psalms, Daniel, Malachi, etc. obviously the name Jesus was not used. It’s unfortunate many Christian don’t study their Old Testament and ancient near east history to better understand what it meant to be an Israelite during the Assyrian, Babylonian, and eventually Roman Empire before the Rabbinic movement many years later. It will give you so much more appreciation for God’s full plan, rather just reading the Gospels and the writings of Paul.

The Torah shows God’s unending love and patience with his people,and it makes it even sweeter when you realize God’s plan the entire time was to reclaim ALL nations through Christ. The books during and after the exile document the struggles of God’s people, God’s judgement and ultimately his saving grace for all people who believe.

What is written different between the Torah and Tanahk that separates from the Old Testament in the Bible?

yeah---She WRONG

I never thought that. I'm lead by the Holy Spirit in my new spiritual life through the blood of the Lamb. I'm a new creation. Judaism isn't born again. You don't believe in Jesus, that's not my problem.

Jesus is all of the Old Testament. You need to read it..

The only difference is the talmud written (roughly) 300 years after Jesus that calls him a sorcerer & somehow this is considered canon to rabbinic Jews

Jesus said, "Before Abraham ,I am" .-Wrong. Jesus confirmed the Old Testament. You need Jesus. Saved through Christ only-no exceptions ✝️

Yeshua say to the Jews: if you have believed Mose you would've believe me becose of me He has written. John 5: 46-47.... sorry maybe this is not written in your writings of course .😢

I’m a Jew and I would like to correct you, the Torah references the Messiah (Jesus). The only reasons that we never acknowledge that fact is because our ancestors didn’t want to.

This is ridiculous. The Torah and Tanakh ARE the written Old Testament. They are exactly the same. There are differences in practice and doctrine between modern Christianity and Second Temple Judaism in that early christians rejected the ORAL talmud and canonized a couple centuries worth of writings from church fathers. Jesus is never referenced in the Old Testament or the torah/tanahk; he is only referenced in the New Testament. Furthermore, Jesus was a devout Jewish man!

You’re technically kinda sorta right in some parts but you legitimately have no clue as to why.

I’m not even religious and I know more about your religion than you. Learn some history and theology before you start spouting nonsense.

The same

In the New Testament it shows that the Pharisees, & Sadducees sects of Judaism, that those Jewish leaders believed in the one true God.
But then Jesus Christ said your father is the devil, meaning they were sons of Cain, & not sons of Abraham.

Food for thought

Yes they are. The tanakh is the old testament. But what else you said yes

Your messiah has come, and he will be wiating for you.

I mean not really no

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Sadly, self righteousness makes you believe you can earn your way to eternal life.

Christianity is the new word for the word Judaism.

I'm amazed at how those so called Jews can't see that over 90% of everyone in the gospels are Jews and none of them are Christians.

The Jewish scriptures are called the Tanakh, which is a 3 part collection of writings. The word TaNaKh is an acronym. The T stands for Torah, which means instruction or teaching. The N stands for Nevi'im, which is the Hebrew word for prophets, and the K stands for Ketuvim, which is the Hebrew word for writings. The Torah includes the books of Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy. The Nevi'im includes Joshua, Samuel, Kings, Isaiah, Jeremiah, ETC. The Ketuvim includes Psalms, Proverbs, Job, Ruth, Chronicles, ETC. The Protestant Christian Bible includes ALL the books of the Tanakh, but in a different order. This part of the Christian Bible is called the Old Testament. The Tanakh is made up of 24 books while the Old Testament is made up of 39 because the Tanakh combines 1 Samuel and 2 Samuel into Samuel. 1 Kings and 2 Kings are combined into Kings. 1 and 2 Chronicles are combined into Chronicles. The twelve minor prophets of the Christian Bible are combined into The Twelve in the Tanakh. The two books of Ezra and Nehemiah are combined into one book for a total of 24 books instead of 39. The 2nd part of the Christian Bible is the New Testament and consists of 27 books detailing the life and teachings of Jesus. None of these 27 books are included in the Hebrew Bible. In other words, everything in the Tanakh is in the Old Testament section of the Protestant Bible, but the Hebrew Scriptures do not include any books from the New Testament

A liitle right, but mostly wrong.

Before Abraham was I AM.

The Bible comes from the Torah !! Jesus and his followers practiced Judaism !! The Jewish people have always been God's chosen people !! Jesus wasn't born on Christmas he was born in spring Christmas is a lie !!

Isaiah 9.6 Isaiah 53 Proverbs 30.4 Daniel 9.24-26. Jesus is God and i disagree with you our old testament doesn't mention Jesus it is the Torah

Read Isaiah 53 and tell me that’s not a prophecy about Jesus.

I’m not of Semitic decent that I’m aware of.. I would love to be. Athlough as a human we cannot be ignorant being raised in “ Christianity “ to make claims without getting the knowledge you need , for you to understand the Truth. And if these books were any more the same then they are different , then wouldn’t they be called by the same name..

Please have some common sense people
I don’t know how I end up on these videos but I’m glad that I do
it just confirms my faith every minute of the day because I’m not clueless to the truth

wake up folks
We cannot be so irresponsible to insult anyone in that way

when it comes to their religion and faith however different , If you don’t know then you don’t know what’s the same

Never make assumptions that you can’t really say are true

if you don’t know ..
what you know..
Or know what you don’t know.

You make no sense

Your desperate need to stand out is telling. I serve the God of Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob. The God of Moses, and Daniel, and the same God as Jesus proclaimed to be. I serve Yahweh, the one true and living God. If you do not serve the same God, then you are right and we are completely different. I challenge you to stand on your faith,and prove to me how the old testament, and the tanakh are different. Barring any additions, or commentary that may be in todays versions

Really you are not different at fucking all.. all three of you pick and choose parts of a story and claim truth

Three different versions of the same story

May be a different ending amd means but its the same story 1000 percent can we read together? Out of different books? Absolutly yes alot of the stories from our books can be read from the koran too lmfo you are out of your mind

Mesoretic text?

What each prophet said about the ciming if the Messiah

Zachariah: God will send GOD to his people

Isaiah: The Messiah will die for our sins (entire chapter 53 and more)

Micah: We will be born in Bethlehem

WHO FITS ALL THESE CRITERIA?

You are absolutely correct Judaism and Christianity are different... BUT.. the text are very similar, seeing how the Christian bible was written partly from the Torah and the Tanak. But my confusion comes from your argument, the only difference in the two subjects is the absence of Christ, which jews dispute to be the true messiah... If the stories are the same, if the teachings are similar, if it walks, and quacks like a duck, it must be a duck.

She's in denial just like when Pharisees denied THE MASSIAH*
I hope ONE DAY they will awake...
For me,Judaism is totally a TRAGIC STORY as they where CHOSEN PEOPLE of GOD*
....and when MESSIAH appeard,they REJECTED HIM....and are left with
Wailing Wall*
How tragic is that?,to have a TEMPLE IN RUINS*,that is NOT OF GOD because it doesn't acknowledge THE MESSIAH*
Messiah destroyed THE TEMPLE as HE SAID HE WILL....and is still in RUINS...


Isaiah 8:14


“Then He shall become a sanctuary;
But to both the houses of Israel, a stone to strike and a rock to stumble over,
And a snare and a trap for the inhabitants of Jerusalem.

Isaiah declared, “The LORD Almighty is the one you are to regard as holy, he is the one you are to fear, he is the one you are to dread, and he will be a sanctuary; but for both houses of Israel he will be a stone that causes men to stumble and a rock that makes them fall. And for the people of Jerusalem he will be a trap and a snare. Many of them will stumble; they will fall and be broken, they will be snared and captured.”



Daniel speaking of a vision of Nebuchadnezzar, “While you were watching, a rock was cut out, but not by human hands. It struck the statue on its feet of iron and clay and smashed them,”

Daniel 2:34


Psalm 118:22

The stone which the builders rejected,
Has become the chief corner stone.

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