Is Miss Grand International Taking Over Miss Earth’s Spot as a BIG 4 Pageant?

No doubt ME deserves to be a Major Pageant. MGI is a business while ME is balanced which is a real pageant is all about. MGI captures audience only because of drama and production only.

I love it❤️. Luis is very opinionated and he explained every details to give us a better insight🙏❤️.

Taking ME spot??????? I think your country is the only one that still thinks ME is a major pageant or even more popular or renowned than MGI. MGI is along with MU the most awaited in the whole world of pageantry. ME has never had that hype in America or even Asia. It’s just you people from the Philippines that think so.

Im looking for shows that i like .mgi gives mi satisfying show i dont watch m e boring

why should this be limited to Big 4? make it Big 5 if MGI is worth to include. we can’t just kick one of the original Big 4 just because a new pageant is glossier. pageants have evolved into social responsibility and advocacy platforms. hello? pageant contestants for decades have been saying “beauty is not just external.” a glitzy production is NOT the only standard to become a “BIG” pageant.

Just because this year MG got good deserving winner everyone are praising it, look the next some years how the same people will be criticize grand by saying cooking show,

Earth always use to produce very deserving winner and their advocacies are so good regarding the environmental sustainability. I love earth more than grand , grand is so dramatic pageant

I think at the end people are the one who give relevance to the pageant. So if less people are giving importance then it doesn't mean that Miss Earth is a trash pageant. Tbh I also don't watch Miss Earth but it's just an individual choice and the advocacy to which you resonate.

MGI is the best and very entertaining. I love Ms. Earth advocacy but I still prefer to watch the glitz and glamour of Miss Grand and all the scandalous things every year. It's very exciting to watch.

MGI is merely glitz and glamour. On the other hand, ME is advocating for Environmental Protection and Sustainability, candidates are able to speak for the causes that they believe in- prior/ during/ after the competition. MGI candidates are given only a minute to spread hope against war and violence, but after that, all the winners are just live selling .

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Remove the miss world or miss international as the 2 boring pageant...MISS EARTH is consistent ...miss earth gives us morr excitement than miss world and Internnational ...I think the Big 4 now shoudl be MU, ME, MGI and MS SUPRA. thats exact the most anticipating pageants now ..
MI AND MW is consistent ...CONSISTENT NO IMPROVEMENT AT ALL VERY BORING VERY OLD FASHIONED PAGEANT VERY COMMON AND VERY PREDICTABLE ...NO TWIST NO LONGER MARKETABLE LACK OF WOW FACTOR.
Just saying coz im an audience i know how to observe which makes me excuted and goosebumps

True, MGI Don't need to drag any of the BIG4 Pageants down, what theu need to do is to prove that they deserve the 5th seat on the table. Yes, they have great production over all the BigPageants, but theu need to have substance, core and purpose. Know that pageantry today is not about beauty and glam, its all about relevant impact to the community, to the problems the society really is facing today.

You can't say that MGI doesn't help society because Nawat gives local brands a chance to promote on his show. That's one way to create jobs for the local. Unlike MU, which focuses on promoting high-end, luxury brands.

Yes, MGI sells things online, which is an honest profession. What's wrong with that? Meanwhile, MU also sells things like bags, cosmetics, and makeup, and the winners have to promote gambling dens. How are they different?

what advocacy does Miss International have? pageants cannot be judged on advocacies or legacy anymore,if did that then Miss Intercontinental is older than Miss Earth and its not in the Big 5/6. Miss International is only in big 6 coz it is the third oldest pageant and it doesnt even have an advocacy, no grand production and worst of all, no African winner.

Miss International is the most boring and cheap pageant. Miss grand international is definitely top4 including Miss Earth

I'm not too fond of it when people say something is better just because it is older. Something is better when it is performing better AT THE CURRENT TIME. It does not matter how good/bad that thing was in the past, if it is better this time, IT IS BETTER THIS TIME.

Regarding advocacy, every beauty pageant organization has its own interest. Miss Earth organization wants to advocate for Earth's well-being, while MGI organization wants to focus more on their business. They may be not very serious about their so-called fighting war and violence advocacy but at least the message is there. Millions of people watch the show and millions of them get the message and it is up to them whether they want to implement it. For Miss Earth, the same thing happens, it's just that they are more consistent with their advocacy.

But how effective are their advocacies? Both sides still have not shown the effectiveness of their advocacy campaigns. Do we still have wars around the world? Yes. We have the Israel-Palestine war and the Russia-Ukraine war. Do we still have violence around the world? Definitely yes. Every day, people are dying from domestic violence and murder cases are still high in certain countries (and surprisingly these countries have people who love beauty pageants including MGI so much). I don't even have to cite any reference to prove these, because it is very clear.

Is the climate change still worsening? Yes. The world is getting hotter, and some countries are sinking. Is the Philippines the cleanest country (I am mentioning specifically the Philippines because they own the ME and so they should get exposure to the organization's advocacy more)? No. They're in the Bottom 15 in the "Cleanest Countries in the World 2024 Ranking" (World Population Review, 2024). Are the Filipinos the best at implementing the "reuse and recycle"? No. They're not even in the Top 50 in the "Recycling Rates by Country 2024 Ranking" (World Population Review, 2024).

At the end of the day, every beauty pageant is solely for business. Without business, a beauty pageant organization cannot run, unless it consistently gets free funds and sponsors. Each beauty pageant organization wants money.

Mr Nawat has been in a pageant business for more than 20 years so breaking up with Miss earth as a ND is not the reason for him to start Miss grand. I think beauty pageants are not the same as they used to be. Back in the day , beauty queens were a voice for us to speak up about issues but nowadays we all has our own platform to speak up so i dont believe that being beauty queen is gonna change the world so i dont really believe about advocacy. I watch beauty pageant just for entertainment . MGI does that for business, i get it ,and enjoy it.

Characters of big Four, they dont do Live Selling by their queens. It cheapens the brand. They have established names and advocacy. Miss Earth has more franchise than Grand outside southeast asia. Grand has production value but no unique theme or format. They can compete with supra for that value.

Uhmmm that can't be. They have more viewers because of the drama every year. Miss Earth along with Miss World and International are purely with genuine advocacy. The center stage may not glamorous but that is not what they are about. They are the only pageant who continue to justify their advocacy and purpose. It's not all about the clubs, tours and luxurious life of the pageant. These ladies are presented as Ambassadors, it has a purpose. MU and MGI rans by people who like drama and controversies. I don't watch them anymore it's like a clown show these days.

The Miss Earth winner is very down to earth.

MGI can beat even Miss Universe. Lol MGI is now the standard. Accept it or not. They do their absolute best!

MGI is now taking over MU based on 3 believable polls, let alone ME.

Miss​ grand​ the​1&only🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉👑👑👑

all of the pageant today is way way over cooking and it still not done cooking yet so I rather pick A24 movie is more real then cooking pageants dramas show.

I totally agree with your intelligent analysis once again Luis. I am maybe the biggest fan of Miss Earth because I love deep conversations and really smart beauty queens whom I can learn something from. However, as you said, Miss Earth should bring in young people to their team.
What I don’t like is that people keep on saying MGI bumping ME out of the Big 4. I mean Big 4 has already been written in the sky, maybe there will be big 6, big 8 etc where MGI can be a member of.

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Miss Universe seems more fitting to be compared to Miss Grand International, unlike Miss Earth, which doesn’t even come close.

No, Right now, Ms. Earth and M World are the ONLY Major Pageants with strong advocacies and solid charity work.
MGI has taken over MU in all respects. MU is now 3rd place. Ouch!!!

Yeah, I think Miss Grand needs to focus more on advocacy

Great point Luis. ME is always a Big 4 pageant.

Miss Earth is the most unproblematic beauty pageant in the world. ❤️

Big no

Miss Earth is not a cabaret club pageant compare to miss grand the candidate most be like slots

Miss grand was outstanding but miss universe suck this year. Very very poor performance

Top 6 major pageant , 1 miss universe , 2 miss world ,3 miss international ,4 miss supranational ,5 miss grand international , 6 miss cosmo ,and miss earth minor is pageant

Typical pageant vs. an Environmental pageant. Ms
Earth is irreplaceable.

Nope dont watch both but I dont like the few post I have seen about miss grand on social media.

Hahaha earth😂😂wkwkwk

For me what matter still the purpose and good cause of the pageant, rather than all the clamour/glamour or whatsoever ✌️☺️

No miss earth for big 4 pagent no change about Ms grand just minor pagent

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Eighty plus candidates in a pageant I will consider it a big pageant,but below that number I will considered it a small pageant. When the pageant is well established and respected with a clear advocacy ,it will just automatically attract contesteant around the world.Miss Earth is pegeant that set apart from the rest of pageantry as the organization is not engage their winner for commercialism.

ACTUALLY MISS GRAND INTERNATIONAL IS THE NO 1 PAGEANT NOW as grand and classy as its name .The winner this year is so deserving,Miss World is No 2 ,Miss Earth No 3

As of 2024, the big five beauty competitions are Miss World, Miss Cosmo, Miss Grand International, and Miss Supranational. This year, Miss Earth and Miss Universe didn't meet the pageant fans' expectations regarding hosting, contestants, and events held in 2024.

More advocacy but got boring ass production. I go with mgi then. It’s so fun and enjoyable. The winner is top notch!

Exactly the reaction I would expect some one who is associated with miss earth would say .

Are you going to review Miss International?

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Spin off topic: Is Miss Universe still #1? 🤔