Browsing the Web on a Vintage Apple //e with Contiki!

Great work

The precursor to the Internet in Australia in the 1980s is a videotext communication called "Viatel"... I could connect to several banks, make a booking for a flight through Qantas, even gamble on a local gambling page, got to a page for the weather, read the news... all this from my home which was before the Internet and that was on an Apple //e, with a 1200/75 baud modem.

Minha questão é se um PC desse podia navegar na internet de forma nativa, e pelo que eu vi não. Tiveram que inventar uma gambiarra moderna pra ele conseguir

when he waves his hand like its like a cartoon comedy lol

I wonder if this would work with a rs232 serial wifi modem. I built one some time ago.

frogfind is useful even on modern systems if your bandwidth is low, like a weak mobile connection

I would love to see if it's possible to develop a website using that computer. Maybe that telnet disk could be of use to connect to a modern pc and write code that way

I kinda want to try it, but I digress. Rather nice! Even if I'm 2 years late to the party

if we time travel with this cool thing, we would have gotten much advanced technology than we have now.

It kind of looks like the w3m web browser in linux terminal

Very old Computer indeed

Just today discovered your channel. I have been wondering for several years, with the expansion of vintage/retro computing of every conceivable brand of computer, if people out there were really doing internet apps and sites for the old machines. It is cool to see that you have actually done it. Keep up the great work. Looking forward to discovering what else the vintage/retro community is doing out there.

Amazing!! This is so cool 😎

Nice! now I can check my email like I'm Strong Bad.

will Chat GPT work on Apple II e though? I enjoy playing text adventure games Chat GPT makes

That's so rad!

imagine a hacker hacking for the first time and hacking this apple II. His reaction would probably like, "WHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Actually it's because of the internet every year gets more and more bloated because of large companies like Google forcing people to incorporate more and more b***** stuff in their websites

Why? There is no reason to surf the web on an 8-bit 1.0 mhz computer,

IRC....one of the first Internet apps I started using in 1987.

It's so weird seeing all these modern day events and sites popping up on that thing, seeing that is actually the same feeling you'd get back in the day seeing a computer do something you didn't know it could do.

Hey, I resent the “really old computer” comment at the end. I was 22 when I got my first Apple computer. From my perspective, the “internet” was late to the party. We still did great things back then with 300baud modems and BBSes. In fact, we were able to bring together 1000 members in our south Florida club back then. I don’t want to sound like some old grandpa but we were able to do some amazing stuff back then (think Guy Kawasaki at one of our meetings). I love the internet today but it doesn’t have the same impact for me as when we got on the ‘net “way back then”. Done now. I’ll use my walker to leave. (HA!) Keep up the good work.

Dude, I REALLY admire what you are doing here but not just for retro computing. There is a significant percentage of the earth’s population that not only have sub-par computational power but also terrible internet access. What you are demonstrating here is just how much INFORMATION can still be provided to humans living in parts of the world where the internet is a phone line and 300 baud (remember those days? I do.).

I have a feeling that an os as simple as this could be ported to scratch, a highly limited programming language. I will keep you updated

This is amazing - thank you!

can't wait to see this done on a 60s era ibm mainframe

Just wow. Time to find LYNX approved sites.

I'm really curious if it'd be possible to get Gmail working in an environment like this. I'm using elinks on my headless raspberry pi (Thank you so so much for frogfind and 68k news!), and Gmail refuses to load.

Here's a question about contiki....if you download a file from the web, say with the wget program it has, will that be saved in a ProDOS compatible format, so you can load it with a text editor or file viewer from the 70s/80s?

The ultimate evolution of this would be an IP stack integrated into ProDOS. Like with the original IBM PC 5150, you can put an ethernet card into it and you can run a IP stack such as WatTCP and it connects to the internet directly just like a modern PC. If we could get that on Apple //e it would be cool 🙂

Text based browsers do not download the non text based components. Browsers pull down what they need.

I have a 2e and I want to do this

Apple disks are 144k, not 360k

Fun fact about IRC, if you create a Twitch bot, it will use the IRC protocol to connect to the chat. I don't know if this is just twitch thinking its a good interface or if twitch perhaps uses irc internally for all its chat. I think that would make sense, since IRC servers are tried and tested for decades for handling loads of chat.

This is the coolest thing I've seen today.

The lion kingdom needs a text browser proxy for the frequent times Comca$t is down.

This really takes me back to my first days of the internet. I used an apple iie with the monochrome screen in a computer lab at my university, circa 1994 (it was the lab for the non-computer geeks, so we got the older computers at the time), and I mostly used it to read all the articles I could find about Smashing Pumpkins, lol. I just got a “new to me” apple iie yesterday and I’m pretty excited to be able to use it for things like this!

VERY impressive indeed for an Apple IIe. Good that we have 80-column screens instead of 40 columns. VERY GOOD WORK! I may try it myself some time. It seems to runs on an AppleWin Apple II Emulator, then I don't have to buy the Uthernet.

It's great to see my work on Contiki (and my Telnet65 in another video) shown to such a broad audience. And thanks for creating FrogFind and 68K News!

Great video except for your hand mimic.

It's still better then IE

I think even Amish people are laughing at you!!!

Got tired of all the convenience of my iphone so I cancelled my service and got me an circa 1942 WW2 era Morse code walkie talkie!
SWEET!!!

Why would you do that? That's like saying I got tired of driving my Corvette, so I traded it in and got me a horse and buggy, from the Amish farmers market!!!!

Text mode huh? Living large we are!!!

Oh that is so cool

This is such a wild and cool application of technology. I've heard a lot about doctors in remote locations still using dial up BBS to share information, and I always thought that was pretty fantastic. This only adds to that level of awesome. Probably wouldn't want to use the modern internet on a dialup, even with Frogfind, but it still feels like it could be done.

Great job. Thanks so much for sharing this. :)

One word: Amazing! 👍🏻

Tbh it’s actually not that slow loading news articles!