New Budget GPU, Looks Like A CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 8700G Review

i love to se that the 7700 is on top, i buy the 7700x on a god price and didnt tested like this.

Okay, thats interesting.....I would never buy one, but its interesting compared the usual releases.

What would make a ton of sense is a 4c8t monolithic cpu with this igpu at 200 usd or less, much like the steam deck. Why isn't amd doing that is beyond me.

Can the gpu access all ram? If so can it be used to tap on large llm models?

new? yeah. budget? not quite

Ryzen 8700g : I identify as a GPU. So I become one 🌚

They should make a 8900G3D product

wouldn't it be wonderful if wee see x700GX3D?

For gaming performance, it would make more sense if they made it a hexa-core complex with 12-14 CU and possibly a bit of extra L3 cache.
And, if they cut down the lower tier CPU only by 2 CU, not by 4, resulting in still fairly impressive 10-12 CU.
I think I'll buy R5 8600G even though the iGPU is significantly weaker. Fast enough RAM is not cheap yet, anyway. And yeah, it's my niche Mini PC use case.

Should have done some tests at 720p resolution - with medium/high settings

That's insane

The gaming performance seems really similar to the 7840/7940HS - I'd love to see a direct comparison. At the cost of 8700G, a new mobo and DDR5, I could buy a mini-PC with USB4 or Oculink support for an eGPU for future upgradeability.

Very interesting!

Pretty nice for very-budget mini desktops

This is amazing for people who live somewhere where electricity is not reliable. I lived in an “apartment” where my PC with a i5 4690k and a RX 570 would be too much load for the place. Knowing an iGPU has that much power is honestly amazing and past me would have absolutely paid for it.

Stupid question, i just bought the 8700g. Will they come out with a 8900g in the future?

At this price, it can never be a good choice for gaming PCs. Because it is possible to buy RTX3050 and 13100F for $330, which are much more powerful in playing games. If the price does not decrease, it will become an option for compact and low-power cases.

any idea if this could be cooled reasonably with a low profile cooler like the noctua nh l9a while gaming? this could make it interesting for portable sff builds

So if I add a dedicated graphics card, ale iGPU cores do nothing? Or do they add something the the overall performance?

I want one for building my own portable handheld, that i can Dock at home to a Full pci-e x16 dgpu.

Premade handelds likes claw/ally... Just dont cut it as desktp.

The elephant in the room: You can pick up a mini PC with the 7840HS for around the same price of building an ITX system with an 8700G AND it's much much smaller.

so 8600g is the one then for 100 bucks less

i just wish that they use this igpu for their lower tier cpu. Like if they can afford this cpu most likely they can also afford expensive dedicated gpu.

thanks

The product makes sense for somebody who mostly needs good multicore performance (like a software developer), but does occasional gaming.

It would be interesting to see at what level of details can this thing acheive 60FPS in older games... Like GTA V, Tomb raider series, Witcher 3 and alike.

that igpu is really quite impressive. i see this being used in ultra small form factor builds. maybe even like in nuc style pc's later on. for someone building in a ITX case its probably not very logical but for those ultra small builds. if your a casual gamer and u want a tidy desk without all the rainbow barf then hell yeah.

So still better to get a CPU/GPU combo in most price ranges.

CPU+dGPU instead? Yep. Starting out building a brand new retail 3.3/4.3 4C CPU full-power desktop in 2024? Uh, noooo....

this video just turned into a rx 6500 hit piece. i 4k fortnite with the intel i5 13600k and a rx 6500 xt.

Got mine coming tomorrow, along with an Asus ROG Strix B650E itx board and noctua NH-L9a AM5 Chromax to go in the Inwin B1 mesh (or BQ-656 which is what I have my 5700G in, though I may give that to my mate and it will save taking it out as I suffer from Lazybastitis :D). I have 32GB DDR5 6400 spare already and 2TB Samsung 980 Pro, and as I already have Lenovo Legion Go, I know what to expect performance wise for gaming especially at 720p, so for me, it will make a nice mini gaming HTPC and emulation beast given its higher potential boost speeds with over double the TDP, as the Legion Go has no real issues on that front, so I'm not expecting and on this.

For me the i3+6600 combo is not an option when I am looking for a compact system, though I can't deny that its impressive for the price and with and with a cheap ddr4 matx board and the rest, its a "cheap" option (around £700 when I did an as cheap as possible 32GB, 2TB "small" MATX build), though still costs more and still to big compared to what I paid with what I already have (APU mobo and cooler) which was around £100 less, though £300 more if I had to buy it all (case+psu, ram and nvme). That said, in these price ranges, a console would be better and cheaper for just gaming.

Should have been a 6/12 core with the Radeon 780m.

Great review! Actually much more than just a review! Keep up the good work ❤❤

You should include games like factorio

I just bought a laptop with a Ryzen 7 7735u with 680m rdna2 graphics. Is this comparable? I didn’t know rdna3 was a thing

At 65W, these might be good if used at full power in thin portability-oriented laptops with entry level gaming capability.
IF the price is right, which might be possible, supposing the cooling solution is cheaper enough when implemented.

For desktops, though... personally I wouldn't even consider the idea.

Thanks for your videos!

What is the suitable budget AMD APU for 3D rendering and modeling ? What is the 3D render Quality of image?

OMG, still release a glorified low-end 6c for close and more than US$200?

Plus, the TIM isn't soldered, low PCIE lanes, dated PCIE revision. AMD think this is 2016?

On one hand, I appreciate AMD doing different things (e.g X3D and this) but on the other hand, depending on how stores categorise this it would be very easy for people to mistakenly buy this when its really not what they want. Its kind of over-complicating the market to serve an incredibly niche market (micro computers who want to game either on minimum graphics or old titles)

You didn't encounter the same issues Gamers Nexus did?

I would appreciate AI benchmarks and transcoding benches for home server use. Many quantized LLMs or SD can run inference on the cpu so an integrated gpu is not crazy for AI.

This is what we dreamed the old AM3 A12's would become

That 8700g igpu performance would equivalent to what external gpu this day?

41 Watt idle seems pretty high? I´m pretty sure thats not correct.

Anyone considering this for gaming PLEASE 🙏get a RX 6600 to pair with a Cpu instead. You will thank yourself so much if you listen 🙂(if you are at this price point for a gaming system prob best bet to look 2nd hand , can get - RTX 2060 super, 2070/super, RX 6600, 6600 XT, they will all be fairly cheap and perform massively better than this Apu)

Some people will buy it though and right this very moment it might game ok (subjective but it will game somewhat at least), but who is this even for at that price point? It's not even that it's crazy expensive overall - but for how it games it is crazy expensive and makes no sense. (meaning the concept of an Apu for gaming the price is good - but the performance doesn't meet the mark unfortunately)

Edit: Noticed though that while all Amd do in their Apu's is raise the CU count every few years, increase the clock speeds and recently update to Rdna series (basically negates the updates based on the time period it takes to update) the performance delta or how playable games are on Apu's has gone up a lot! - To me just a quick thought pops in, does this mean that Gpu's are gaining performance faster than the games are using the extra performance? ofc not in RT but in pure raster - funnily enough conspiracy theories could be read into it lol but idc about that. (4060 / 7600 failing to raise the bar at the low end springs to mind, the increase in cost of more performant gpu's and so on ahahhahaha)

This product will be great in refions where video cards arent even provided or are extremely scarce. India comes to mind. Many places just dont get GPU supply.

Nice FPS on IGPU😅😅😅

The 6500 XT isn't that bad. For folks who can't afford a $300+ graphics cards, the 6500 XT is a good option, especially if they have a PCIe 4.0 capable CPU+Motherboard. The Ryzen 7 8700G solves that equation for most folks.

Where is the 4080 super review???