LLWS - Baseball Cheap Shot or Smart base running?

Grimes Lock

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Ump missed the call. Runner should have been out. And if you are teaching kids to do what the runner did, we need you out of baseball and far far far far away from future baseball players.

I'd say cheap shot and I don't think coaches should teach that to their players.

Pretty simple. Catcher made the catch while touching the plate and the runner is out by force. What happened Next was runner knocked the ball out of the catchers glove after he was out. Once the runner was out that play is over. What happens after that it’s not relevant.

If the question is whether coaches should teach their players to do this... I think the answer is pretty clearly NO.

Out !

You teach that in football to try and create a fumble. You teach baseball players to try and avoid being tagged.

Force play, runner was out. The catcher had control before the runner knocked the ball out of the glove. Runner out, then ejected for unsportsmanlike conduct.

He’s out. It’s a force play. He already caught the ball while touching the plate. Him hitting the ball out of his glove after he’s lifting it up from making the catch doesn’t make him safe and it also doesn’t make him out for interference. He’s out on the force before any of that happens

Parried the tag.
That's heads-up baseball right there.

Live speed I could tell he slapped the catchers
Glove. Should t the llws have better umpires?

Should have been an out for intentionally hitting the catchers hand trying to knock the ball out.

Are you seriously asking if the coach should teach his players to become dirty players? Because that play at the plate was a dirty play by the runner on the slide intentionally hitting the catchers glove arm making him drop the ball. If he slides into home honorably (in good sportsmanship) he would have been out. " In my opinion ". So to answer the "QUESTION" HELL NO, don't teach the kids at any age in any sport to be a dirty player.

Runner should have been called out. It was a force out and catcher held the ball long enough. Umpire missed the call. Mana get for Michigan team should have asked the umpire to get help from 3rd base umpire on the call. Too bad there wasn't instant replay.

Looks like an A-Rod move all out. Only AA-Rod got caught. LOL

Defend it? Yeah, make a better throw.

Out at home play was dead and ovet

I call that bs

Kick A Rod out of the Hall

You not trying to win if you not cheating ( a bit )

Out

Total cheap shot. No, it should not be taught to cheat.

I think it's a cheap shot, but the umpire needs to enforce what he sees. I don't think you should teach your runners to do this.

Poor, poor sportsmanship specially at this level of baseball....

If you look very closely his hand hits the glove or wrist making it so cheap

Absolute cheap shot. If these were pros the way to defend against it is with 95mph heat to the ribs next time that punk comes to the plate. Can't really do that with children though.

Also, even without replay on the field, this was clearly visible on video. A player punching another player should be ejected from all future games.

When its you sliding home, there are no rules 😁

Don't they have replay in the LLWS now?

Reminds me of when Alex Rodriguez slapped the ball out of the 1st baseman's glove and got away with it.

I’m a little league umpire. If we can’t see that runner knock the ball out of the hand. We wouldn’t call it. - unless a partner Ump saw that. This play would stand no matter how much a coach screams and yells.

I don’t think that was really intentional. Plus the umpire’s position was very bad

I actually can't blame the runner. It's from the slide I would have to do it if I didn't pop up slide

Dangerous. To strike back of elbow on a fully extended arm.
I would extremely upset to see this.

Looks like the kid was watching cheater AROD, or Sweetwater Little League. Both CHEATERS

Where were the other umpires? Perhaps they could have seen it more clearly and huddled to get the call right. Either way, its unfortunate it turned out this way. Should have been out.

When stuff like this happens in MLB, the offender would be eating a ball in the box next time up. Bad play to teach young players for whom you would like to remove unnecessary and silly risk so they may be able to possibly make it to the pro's someday. Do we really need to win at any cost at this age? Or should we rather focus on building love for the game while teaching the proper fundamentals? I vote the latter.

My initial reaction was "so what?" but I was looking at the other hand which hit the catcher's leg. However, I would agree that it is a cheap shot. That is a tough call as the umpire would be shielded from seeing it.

I have no problem teaching kids to take full advantage within the rules, but I will not teach them to cheat.

Umpire missed the call and should have been looking for it with a force play at home in the LLWS. Interference should have been called but I would coach it since it's up to the umpire to make the call. If they are not going to use replay then give it a shot. The umpire just might be as inadequate as the usually seem to be.

“Nearly impossible to call” ill have to disagree with. What are the umpires options when he sees this? Takes guts sometimes, but if umpires make these calls and punish the behavior it is the best thing to stop it. Some people dont care if they are considered cheap or cheating - They just care whats effective. The astros saga should be a good indicator of that even at the major league level - only enforcement by officials has stopped them.

Everyone is talking about the runner being taught something either brilliant or borderline criminal. No one has mentioned that the only reason this play even occurred is because the catcher was NOT taught proper positioning for the type of play.

The catcher is receiving the ball with his right foot on the plate to try and stretch to reach the throw like a first baseman. Catching the ball with two hands, if positioned with his LEFT foot on the plate, is moot because he's then able to pirouette around on his right foot and potentially get a second out. The runner cannot be faulted for the lack of instruction/execution by his opponent.

Best course of action given what transpired? Defensive coach appeals the decision, and instructs his catcher properly during the deliberation. Offensive coach praises the runner for the effort and the fact that the play was broken up.

Let's be honest though; if the runner had slid into the catcher and upended him resulting in the ball being dislodged, would there be the same level of uproar?

Say what you will about the game of baseball being 'different' or 'special'. The fact is it stops being a game and becomes a sport when competition is added at a high level. And we all know that sports and games are not the same thing.

Absolutely not on teaching, I have to give the benefit of the doubt to runner on this one.

Are the rules for runner's interference different at home than at first base? Any excessive contact with the first baseman's mitt will get you out every time.

Teach your catchers to use both hands.

smart baserunning

Cheap shot...But if umpires can't get the right call right then players will take advantage. I really doubt a coach tells a player to do that.

Something almost everyone missed here: The runner falls to his left at the end of the slide, bends his body 90 degrees (his torso and head end up pointing from the plate to the mound), and reaches over to hit the catcher's arm with his own right hand (the arm-hand that would have been over foul territory, if he had fallen onto hi back). There is no way that happens naturally. Regardless of anything else, the roll and reach should have been obvious to the plate umpire. Call "Time!", announce "Interference" and point at the runner (swatting motion is optional), then place any remaining runners. This is cheap, sleazy, and should never be taught to kids. If I was his coach, I'd bench that runner. If a coach taught him that move, and someone did, then that coach should be drummed out of Little League.

Should it be taught?

To cheat?

Is this a serious question?

I had to look at it 4 times before I saw the intentional hit on his arm. It would be a tough call to sell.