How does the bans affect cEDH decks?

Ludevic winter

Rograkh Tormod still slept on 🎉

Collector Ouphe got nerfed

I don't think Etali is dead because of Treasonous Ogre and Orcish Lumberjack

Looks like such a homogenous format, deck composition wise.

I wanna know about Stella Lee , is heavy played on my play group!

Where is krrik?

I would have determined what was still the best commander and then used that as a reference point for the other commander on whether they got better or worse

Talion doesn't matter about t1 commander anymore......... It's just a 4 mana Rhystic on a creature body in the zone

*Jeweled lotus was good with Codie

Why do we not just have our own rules conutee for cedh at this point

Tasigur got better IMO relatively speaking. JL may have helped, but a lot of lists (mine included) didn’t run it.

We need our own format and committee. They are going to keep banning anything that speeds up play or puts casual at a disadvantage. I'm not sure how much clearer RC needs to be on this. They want us out of casual

Here I am with one hell of a question. Since the game became slower did braids become a better mono black commander than krrik?

i played nadu with a crypt and jewled in the list :(

Well, rip korvold

I think Magda will still do surprisingly well- Playing Magda is more about treasure tokens than about having lots of mana...and dockside was not the only way for Magda to get the treasure-engine going. I feel like w/ my experience playing Magda over this last summer, the deck should be able to do what it has been doing just fine...just a little slower- and the big question to me now is how much slower does everybody else have to play?

Also from experience w/ Magda, having other players suddenly play dockside on their turn would put me in an awkward position of wanting to sac my treasure tokens so they would get less effect from their dockside etb...also in playing this last summer I only got to cast my own dockside in a game once, lol. For Magda, everybody else losing access to dockside is actually a net win.

I'm probably going to replace the 3 cards w/ Mind Stone, Bucknard's Everful Purse, and Jeska's Will or a utility land card...all cards that have been in the list at some point or another already and I think I'll be good to go...

There is a knock on effect that slows the game down even more. Often when wins are turn 1,2 or sometimes 3 players have been incentivized to tap out to develop their board. This means many games were won with interaction in hand just no mana to use it. With most games not having their first win attempt until turn 3 or later I think players will be more likely to have the open mama as you can afford to hold up mama as the game goes later. I’d argue the first win gets stopped significantly more often which is a big hit to turbo where they often have something like unprotected adnaus. Also there is more time for stax to come into play which is say adds more turns. So theoretical one turn loss will likely snowball into much longer games

I don't care how bad it is, it's Yedora time.

Any ideas how Slicer works in this meta?
I know it took a hit but still might be fast enough?

Surprised chulane was used to rep bant and not derevi.

How about stella lee?

I disagree with winota for the same reason you guys felt ob nixilis would get worse. Without winota the deck is just bad. Turboing winota out just got substantially harder without j lotus and crypt. and makes a turn 1 winota almost impossible. I guess it enjoys a slower format but at the same time, the reason she could snowball so much in the turn 3-4 range is because turn 1-2 winota was a priority.

You missed animar

What’s your opinion on Grolnok the Omnivore?

How about Shorikai?

But you didn’t discuss Flubs!!!??? 😂

Think anje falkenwrath is playable again?

Rona disciple of Gix should still be Solid with its combos

The crypt loss is Bad, but it should rum smooth

They have effectively divided the community congratulations greedy corporations

Hey were is Yuriko?

Godo is FAR from dead. I've been arguing that Godo would get better from a Dockside ban for years. Its counterintuitive, but true. Crypt is the one that stings a bit, dockside and lotus are fine.

Kenrith I believe will just use LED and evolution witness.

What about Elsha?

We are going to do a civil lawsuit on the rules committee. There’s over $20 million stolen from the consumer and the rules committee should’ve thought about this before they made their actions public. It’s like a recall on a car you can’t put out a car in 2022 worth a lot of money and then in 2024 have a recall of the car making it worthless. Without paying back the consumer.

I will say, as a Yuriko Pilot, it did get slightly worse, but I understand why some ppl are skipping over this part…
Dockside was the “best card in Yuriko”. It was a win condition, Sakashima Student infinite mana was a great way to just win the game, but as far as deck building it was unaffected

One of Talion's wincons is Bloodchief Ascension, the deck ABSOLUTELY got better

it helps my thalia and the gitrog monster

@cedhtv No instant speed Sisay line? I Disagree mons! Although they are ever so hard to use now.
At instant speed you can tutor emiel as final piece for infinite mana, with tyvar out. With infinite WUBRG or! Cradle for 4 with cauldron and derevi, you tutor mount doom, and then you have unlimited untaps with derevi flicker, and infinite mount doom activations.
Not only that! If you have untapped Forbidden Orchard on the board you assemble infinite mana again, tutor threeferi or kutzil, tutor ertai, on etb trigger you give an opponent a spirit with orchard, and then target and kill it with ertai. This will make them draw one. Then you can tutor derevi to untap orchard, and use emiel to flicker ertai. Give them another token and repeat, by flickering derevi to untap orchard. You have milled your opponents at instant speed!
Now that we have Marvin we have even more ways to achieve infinite WUBRG, and therefore these combos are more relevant than ever!

What about K'rrik?

RIP Dargo. We will miss him.

I don't think Etali is dead. I my practice with her after the ban, I can still get her out multiple times turn 2-3 and still do what I want. No, I can't run infinite docksides with temur sabertooth, but food chain and dual aster wins are still very viable.

I am tivit main. And i dont think so is tivit going to worse in meta.
I testing post ban deck with 30 land ,with basalt monolith, pollywog and shelly. I played 6 games vs Rogsy, blue farm and sultai agro deck. And i win 2 games and 1 draw.

What about Raffine ? Some tierlists are putting it pretty high up

Jhoira so dead she didn't even make the list 🥺

In. Sisay, what do u think of swapping dockside and crypt for a Thassa and Demonic Consul? It totally could give that lost explosive start to Sisay. I carry many tutors and the ones that were used for dockside, apply for Tassa..wdut? Best vibes for the channel. RIP DS

Light paw mains ain’t even phased bout the ban list 😂

This has been maybe my favorite content you guys have made. Really good to hear your broad perspectives, but even more, I enjoyed you two just talking & joking as friends. Sometimes we don't get to see that so much in gameplay. This was cool.

Were do you rank Dihada?

kovolt got s+?better bleps , krenko un gordo ripo