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If anyone doubts purgatory, you are not believing the words of the Virgin Mary who speaks of it.
ОтветитьI was told that the fires of purgatory in the area of brink of hell are like the fires of hell but a soul has hope to see God. Now I'm being told the fires are are of God's love. Could the fires of God's love be the "other end" of purgatory?
Ответить"What is Purgatory"? A false doctrine.
ОтветитьWhy does the Eastern Orthodox Church not believe in Purgatory - seeing you guys were the same Church for over 1,000 years after Christ's death? Which also begs the question, why was the concept of Purgatory only introduced in the Middle Ages? The other thing that confuses me is that in 1 Cor 3:11-15 it talks about this purification happening on the Day of Judgement - so how come people are supposedly in Purgatory now?
ОтветитьWatching this video made me a lot angry. Dr Michael Barber should be a Catholic theologian and an active one at that.
I, as a European Catholic, see so much justification and condescension to Protestants here that, frankly, I am amazed and very uncomfortable.
There is no Protestant Bible - there is one Bible that the heretic Luther "edited" to the extent that he initially removed 25 books from it.
You americans are amazing.
You have succeeded in creating some kind of alternative Mickey Mouse Protestant theology that does not really exist anywhere else but in the USA.
To us, catholics, such and such theology is simply unbelievable.
US Catholics allow themselves to be convinced by members of sects, because by all official definitions of things you call "denominations" are sects, that some kind of theology was created 1517 years after Christ by a fallen monk - correct??
History shows otherwise. Culture shows otherwise. Theology shows otherwise, and then instead of one Doctor thundering the truth, explaining and refuting the nonsense presented by Protestants - he makes videos like this? Reminds me of Doge meme.
Wasn’t Purgatory something the Catholic Church made up …. If you pay the Catholic Church for your sins you won’t go to Purgatory?
ОтветитьA made up doctrine of the Catholic Church.
ОтветитьI still don't get it..
When does it happen? If you can't pray for those in hell bc there's no longer salvation, and those who are in heaven don't need it anymore, how would we know?? How can we know??
i am a former catholic after reading the Bible i realized priests lie in many things and now i am out of their false teachings i will said something that make it clear that purgatory is not real the thief in the cross at one side of Yeshua believe in God and Yeshua said to the thief TODAY you will be with me, Yeshua didn't said well today you will go to another place to be purified and after some time you will be with me NOOO God said TODAY you will be with me, according to priests souls go to that place that they call purgartory to get purified if that is true the thief needed also purification but God said TODAY you will be with me that is because purgatory don't exist Yeshua paid in the cross for our sins we need to Believe in Him, believe that the sacrifice of God is More than enough to forgive us and repent of our sins Priests are able to lie because many catholics don't read the bible they are still getting money charging people for mass for their death love ones they are just saying lies
ОтветитьI'm sorry, but this idea of purgatory is based largely on speculation, not Scripture. This doctrine is in no way like the Trinity, where we have various passages throughout the Bible supporting the doctrine. Purgatory is based on speculation and non-canonical documents.
ОтветитьMy argument against Purgatory is not that it isn't in the Bible, it is because Purgatory enstates Jesus's sacrifice on the cross was a failure and that he did not pay for all of our sins.
ОтветитьIt has been appointed for a man to live once, after that the judgement..
I will advice anyone who has ears and eyes to read the words of God,just go back to the bible, purgatory is a devils trick to give you false hope that there is repentance after death.. just read the bible traditional Judaism in maccabees is not teaching of Jesus..you Will be judged by words of Jesus that came from God.. unless you are born again and given a new heart here on earth while you are still living you are condemned already.. Jesus only is the Truth,the Way and the life.
Anybody or priest who believes in purgatory has no idea what was acompish on the cross Hebrews 1 v 3 says when Jesus had PURGED our sins sat down on the right hand of the majesty on high read also Ephesians 1 v 7 this priest is also twisting scriture to teach purgatory, Jesus blood satified the wrath of God He became the only offering for sin, fath in Christ ALONE removes ALL the true believers sin NOT PURGATORY
ОтветитьIt's called sanctification by the Holy Spirit
ОтветитьThe Holy Spirit purge's us also we are perfect in Christ Jesus when we come through the blood of the Lamb and receive His righteousness. No sir there is no such thing as praying for the dead they are dead once your gone your life on earth is over you have one chance to receive eternal life on this side of glory.
ОтветитьThe Holy Spirit purge's us also we are perfect in Christ Jesus when we come through the blood of the Lamb and receive His righteousness. No sir there is no such thing as praying for the dead they are dead once your gone your life on earth is over you have one chance to receive eternal life on this side of glory.
ОтветитьYes the second great commandment is about living your neighbor. This one I think is broken by most people who say they are christian, what God hates most is man hating his fellow man, but many Christians are quilty if this. Even in the many Sunday school classes of the many denominations,this is not taught because of the widespread racism that excist in the United States. Go to confession , pray to Mary, and love your neighbor. And yes I'm a cradle Catholic of Sicilian decent, and yes I firmly believe in purgatory!
ОтветитьPurgatory is not a Scriptural teaching. Instead, it is merely a Catholic man-made tradition. As The New Catholic Encyclopedia says: "The Catholic doctrine on purgatory is based on tradition, not on Sacred Scripture."
ОтветитьGenesis 3/5 for God knows that in the day you eat of it your eyes will be opened and you will be like God knowing the difference between good and evil and blessing and calamity
ОтветитьAnd here is where you need to be aware about twisting the word of God but the serpent said to the woman you shall Not surely die
ОтветитьAnd the woman said to the serpent we may eat the fruit from the tree s of the garden except the fruit from the tree which is in the middle of the garden God has said you shall not eat of it neither shall you touch it lest you die
ОтветитьNow the serpent was more subtle than any living creature of the field which the lord God had made and he Satan said to the woman can it really be that God has said you shall Not eat from every tree of the garden
ОтветитьGenesis but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil blessing and calamity you shall Not eat for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die
ОтветитьJesus is the way and the truth and the life no one can go to the Father accept through he
ОтветитьElohim the God of power the creator/yahweh the covenant keeping God
ОтветитьMost high elyon he is the most high God and there is No one higher than him the almighty shaddai/yeshua yahweh saves Jesus name in Hebrew yeshua actually means yahweh saves
ОтветитьRevelations 22/18_21he who gives this warning and affirms and testifies to these things says yes I am coming quickly amen yes come lord Jesus the grace of the lord Jesus be with all the saints amen let it be so
ОтветитьI warn everyone who listens to the statement s of the prophecy in this book if anyone shall add anything to them God will add and lay upon him the plague s that are recorded and described in this book and if anyone cancel s or take s away from the statement s of the book of this prophecy God will cancel and take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the city of holiness which are described and promised in this book
ОтветитьThere's No purgatory in Hell
ОтветитьThe New Catholic Encyclopedia admits: "In the final analysis, the Catholic doctrine on purgatory is based on Tradition, NOT SACRED SCRIPTURE!"
ОтветитьNowhere in scripture does it state that when we die we are “called into God’s self-giving life-giving love” as stated in the video. When a person dies “Their body returns to the ground it came from, and the spirit returns to God who gave it (Ecclesiastes 12:7).
It remains that way either until the second coming of Yeshua/Jesus (for believers in Yeshua) or the Great White Throne Judgement (Revelation 20:11-15) where non-believers will be thrown into the lake of fire.
The concept of purgatory after a person dies is contrary to Yeshua’s finished work on the cross (John 19:28-30). Basing the idea of purgatory on ancient beliefs as stated in the video does not make it correct or biblical.
1 Corinthians 3:13
The fire mentioned will come on "the Day" meaning the "day of our Lord Yeshua the Messiah" in 1 Corinthians 1:8. This is the day of Yeshua's judgment that will come during the end times. This is when a person will be judged for their works as a believer. It is not to judge their sin.
People must put their faith in Yeshua while they are still alive to receive eternal life. Once they have and then pass away, they will be raised to everlasting glory when He returns. If they still needed “further purification” as taught by the Catholic church, then then the blood of Yeshua is not enough (1 John 1:7).
In the Compendium of The Catechism of the Catholic Church, it states that Purgatory is for those who “die in God’s friendship”. This would seem to indicate that it is for believers in Yeshua.
Sadly, there are some who follow the Catholic religion whose family members are non-believers and have passed away that find false hope in this doctrine. Asking someone, either living or dead (the Saints), for help getting a loved one into Heaven, will not change the fate of the deceased.
If it could, then Yeshua was crucified for nothing.
Jesus said it is finished!
ОтветитьScripture refers God as refiner's fire and fuller's soap (Malachi 3:2). There must be reason why Scripture says so - both have something to do with refining and cleansing. Zech 13:8-9 says that God will put some into fire as one refines silver and test gold.
The main reason why Protestants have problem with purgatory is because they follow the teaching of the Reformers of double imputation: Through faith alone they will receive Christ's righteousness imputed on or credited to them while their sins, past AND future, are imputed on or credited to Christ, who bore them on the cross. If all their sins, past and future are credited to Christ who bore them on the cross, then purgatory will make what Christ did insufficient. But is double imputation scriptural? Ezekiel 18:20 says "the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself". Both righteousness and wickedness are not transferrable!
Purgatory is something you made up...HOW COULD YALL POSSIBLY KNOW...LIES AFTER LIES AFTER LIES.
ОтветитьIt’s important to read the scriptures. In 1 Corinthians 3, it is not the person that is being put through the fire, but each persons “work” that is tested.
1 Corinthians 3:11 “For no one can lay any other foundation than the one we already have – Jesus Christ. Know anyone who builds on that foundation May use gold, silver, jewels, wood, hey or straw. But there is going to come a time of testing at the judgment day to see what kind of work each builder has done. Everyone’s work will be put through the fire to see weather or not it keeps its value. If the work survived the fire, that builder will receive a reward. But if the work is burned up, the builder we will suffer great loss. The builders themselves will be saved, but like someone escaping through a wall of flames.”
We must be very careful of false doctrine especially now during these times of deception in many of the churches. God bless you, sharing the truth in love.
The words of the criminals hanging on the cross next to Jesus - "If You are the Christ, save Yourself and us." The other rebuked him, saying, ..."We receive the due reward of our deeds; but this Man has done nothing wrong." Then he said to
Jesus, "Lord, remember me when You come into Your kingdom. And Jesus said to him, "Assuredly, I say to you, today
you will be with Me in Paradise" Luke 23:39-43
Why wasn’t the concept of purgatory discussed by the orthodox synod in any of the councils they had? Oh wait it’s because it’s a baseless concept that only the Catholics brought up after splitting from the synod… it’s from the same church that thinks that the pope is “infallible” too
ОтветитьIt's a big fat fairytale made up in the minds of good ole catholic hierarchy ..and then they could sell indulgences to the naive sheep telling the sheep they could buy themselves or loved ones out of this invisible made up place...its all kookoo folks..
ОтветитьIf Hell may be crowded, imagine Purgatory as we are all sinners. Not a nice place to be, so use the Catholic tools to get out of there asap (scapular highly recommended), frequent confession, etc…
ОтветитьI do not believe in this Catholic belief of Purgatory,I believe the Catholic Church has put fear into it's parishioner's,and they fear going against the Catholic Church so they adhere to this false teaching that twists God's word to mean what they want it to.
1 Thessalonians 5:9 King James Version (KJV) 9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ, 10 Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him.
I'm going straight to heaven on the basis of Christ's righteousness imputed to me.
Purgatory is unBiblical and unnecessary for the Christian. Christ has done it all.
"Come now, and let us reason together," says the LORD, "Though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be whiter than snow; though they are red like crimson, they shall be as wool." Isaiah 1:18. "If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to
forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from ALL unrighteousness." 1 John 1:9
"Jesus paid it ALL, ALL to Him I owe; sin had left a crimson stain, He washed it white as snow."... Mrs. H.M. Hall
Let's play jeopardy : What is masochism?!!!
ОтветитьI have heard Rabbi’s say purgatory last for 11 months, not sure were they get that from or how they would know that. I’ve never heard Christians give a time line on it. Any thoughts? Thanks!
ОтветитьThen what happened to the people who are suffer during the death process in the hospital beds? so they have to Suffer twice? Is that fair? You don't have a choice to be in this world. Therefore the entire life is just about suffering! God created us to suffer throughout from the inception to death and post death!! It is not that I'm not believing in God but how many stages of fire? Jesus was a prophet he died for his cause ! 🤔🤨
ОтветитьJohn 14 6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
ОтветитьLoad of bullshit
Ответить"Purgatory is where the mercy of God tempers the justice of God." Fulton Sheen
ОтветитьAn imaginary place so RCC can sell indulgences or favors?
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