Shadow Priest Rotation Guide - WOTLK Classic

why shadow word pain is last in order?

Does this change in p3 due to the haste buff gained by MB on your 4 set

i cant understand well what he saying .
i have bad english
can somebody tell me what add on is?

When playing wrath when it was the currwnt expansion me and another spreist had an idea bout having 2 tanks 1 holy paladin with beacon on both tank and 22 shadow priest as the healing from the damage would keep the whole 25 man raid up..
Never got around to do it though

This may be the dumbest question you get but does Vampiric Embrace only heal your group or can it heal the raid?

The Advanced rotation, is it just viable when guild pop Bloodlust at start? or should always start with advance rotation + shadowfiend?

Hi,
Great guide helped alot.
One question. what addon do you use to show the time duration of your dots there to the left. Looks like a cast bar.

Thank you for the video!! Which mindflay+MindSear ticking WA are you using?

Meanwhile I got kicked out of every single "top guild" on all warmane's realms in both factions because I said crit potions in most situations are optimal and got into a fight with toP GmS and ToP sPriEsTs on that dog server, everyone and their mother both precasts and later uses haste potions, in every situation, every scenario, every boss and every gear, it's hilarious how low the IQ of those players is.
Hell, these are the same people playing fire mage on Sindra with bis gear, then again, that is everyone, I guess 10 yesrs is not enough for people to pick up on the most obvious shit in a game 😂

This is the first non dogshit guide ive ever found

Yo Pants! Better late than never - whats up with Inner Focus? Using it on Mind blasts or?

Where do you combo inner focus with? I've always done it with MB but I think I see you cast it with mindflay. I made the assumption a hard crit MB paired with no mana cost was better but maybe, as mana isn't much of a issue more you pair it with flay as its more damage?

Why don't you cast swp as 2nd ability after you precast your Vt? Both MB and Mindflay will benefit from a 10% damage increase. Ive seen more guides saying you DP and MB before but to me it makes no sence

Do you have a plater profile I can copy? I like how small and simple your bars are.

Thank you so much! Been watching for a while but felt I should comment. Helped me get through ulduar with zero shame :D

Theres a really good WA called Dont use mind blast, that I use. It shows you when using MB would be a waste of haste from the 4piece. It comes in handy. I also use the fojii sw:p snapshotter WA. Gives a nice % visual on when reapplying sw:p would be worth it. Generally its during all SP/crit modifiers in encounters, but it's nice to have if one forgets

great video ty

With 4pcs T8 I am still not sure whether MB should be the opener or still VT.

Awesome video!

Easy to learn. Extremely meticulous to master. People say warlock is harder. Yeah....ok....

Hey om your WA it has red numbere under pain -6.9% whst does that mean. I have the addon and when I do it it does the same or it gives me 5.7% or - %

What are your Quartz settings? Is there a profile I can import somewhere to get the same look? I really like how clearly it displays the ticks on the Mind Flay.

Good video. Im gonna level a SP up and follow your advice.

This is a great guide!
I do have a note however, in phase 8 (which is current as of this comment), the current 4 set from Ulduar grants your Mind Blast 4 seconds of 240 haste.
As Vampiric Touch and Devouring Plague benefits massively from haste, there is an argument to be made of changing your rotation a bit based on when you cast Mind Blast.

This is just a friendly reminder, use it as you'd like. Personally I use the standard opening no matter what, and keep in mind Mind Blast if I see CDs line up in a way that allows me to cast MB before DP/VT without too much downtime.

YESS GUIDE ME DOWN THE PATH OF DARKNESSSSSSSS

lol I play feral dps so I love dots, and not being able to see my character most the time, so shadow is for me! hahaha

Really good video got me understanding Spriest a lot better. The only thing I'm really confused about is when do I use SWD? I see the glyph can make it deal 10% more damage below 35% but when do I weave it if at all?

I’m an alt spriest, so I don’t know all the ins and outs, but was just thinking today about swapping up the rotation based around 4 piece t8…what if we open with mindblast into a VT/DP w/ the haste buff….and also on that note, what do you think about saving MB for a 3 second left of either VT/DP (ideally both falling off at the same time) to make sure the haste buff hits a “long cast” being the duration of DP/VT, as opposed to simply making mind flay, a “short cast” slightly shorter, would there be value there? Conceptually less mindblasts throughout, but insuring the haste buff gets maximized w/ high damage casts.

Even as a long time SP player this was helpful, mostly the tool you linked showing me how much dps I am missing because of clipping my MFs early or not getting my dots up quick enough. One thing I would add and this is more so for specific fights rather than overall. Vezzax and Hodir you get a metric ton of haste from either the puddles or beams, mind blast can only gain so much from haste however MF, VT, and DP don't really have that fall off. There is a WA that can tell you when your haste reaches a certain thresh hold where MB is not worth it to cast, though on Vezzax and Hodir (in beams) you really shouldn't be casting MB almost at all. It's only really ever kind of worth it on Vezzax if nobody else is doing a mortal strike or something similar if your raid is not good with getting his mark out of the group, so maybe casting one when that debuff comes out to prevent some healing if nobody else is.

Awesome guides man love the content. Question - in the case where your best weapon doesn't have Crit on it (I currently have the Staff off Hodir 25), is it best to swap to a High Crit weapon before the Sw:P snapshot?

What is the add-on that you're using for the countdown timer? Great vid!

What about using devouring plague when on the move like during Saftey dance in naxx, it does instant damage and is instant cast so in that kind of unique sit could be used to more damage while death is on CD

Can you just copy your addon folder so we can just copy all your addons with the same adjustments you have? Pleaseeee :p

I’m the advanced guide when are you casting shadow word pain?

Thanks for making a guide over rotation

this stuff has helped me a lot, thanks boss

Nice video! What addon are you using to track DoT timers in the middle left of your screen? Thanks!

My guild tells me that there’s something called a mind flay macro. Do you know what that is? I’m guessing it’s something that you can just spam to hit another mind flay the millisecond a previous 3 tick one ends but I can’t find it online

hey, awesome guide helped me a lot! is there a way cou can link the weakaura?

I think in the opener if lusting immediately, Pre cast Mind Blast(with Wild Magic), Gloves, VT, DP, Flay.

That way your first VT and DP are effected by Gloves/MB 4pc buff and Lust off the bat without having to recast. That's gotta be the burstiest opener no? Especially if lust goes off immediately after MB, 3 considerable haste buffs.

Hey,

Nice vid!!

What addon do you use for Player, Target, Target of Target, Party and Raidframes? Really clean look!

what do i have to do to make my dmg numbers look like yours?

Mind flay anim animation in wotlk very ugly ,,

you're the guild leader right?

So, this is conjecture but since getting 4 piece t8 i've swapped to Fade->MB->MF3->on use effects + VT-> DP-> SW:P opener. 4 Piece falls off just after casting DP, and you've got trinket procs, tailoring proc, glyph, shadow weaving, demonic pact, and lust rolling on your initial dots. Plus you save the globals from reapplication. Mind blast comes off CD perfectly after SW:P and you've got freshly applied dots so you're free to get a full inner focus MF3 with your buffed spellpower.

When multi dotting targets that live long enough for reapplication I very much prefer to cast VT's sequentially before applying SW:P. It's a very slight dps increase but it's mostly to make reapplication easier, which for my smoothbrain equals more uptime.

I still use SW:D for timing dot applications. IE you notice you'll have 1 second left on DP after finishing your MF3. You can either channel a MF2 then reapply, or SW:D->DP. I'm not sure how much haste/sp is needed for this to be a loss. But in current gear it still "feels" correct. Although it's very niche, maybe getting 2 casts in a fight.

Also during movement, it's a great time to recast DP after SW:D. Ignis knockup is a great example of this. You can SW:D on the way up and recast DP on the way down.

Please don't take this as criticism! Just adding a couple thoughts. Overall I think it's a very well made and concise guide.

Edit: I should mention I only use that opener on patchwork style fights, but lolulduar.

it'd be nice to have a section on talents :\

At the end of the Bloodlust here you had about 8 second left on Devouring Plague.
Wouldn't it have been a DPS increase to then re-cast DP just to snapshot the Bloodlust onto a fresh DP?

Excellent guide, my friend, this deserves more attention. I had no idea about the log analyzer in particular. That's gonna be super useful in showing up all my warlock guildies xD

so do we not cast shadow word: death on CD?