Intel’s New CPUs are Cringe - Intel Sapphire Rapids Xeon Platinum 8468

Intel’s New CPUs are Cringe - Intel Sapphire Rapids Xeon Platinum 8468

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Y. D.
Y. D. - 17.09.2023 02:44

is that a supermicro (hot garbage) 2u server?

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Submissive Moose
Submissive Moose - 15.09.2023 17:07

What about the 128 core bergamo

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Nguyễn Bảo Châu
Nguyễn Bảo Châu - 21.08.2023 08:41

8486 is only got 48 cores
8490H is more better to compare

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btrs
btrs - 21.08.2023 00:50

Again some perfect examples why LTT fails to properly review enterprise equipment:

* First, unless you are looking for a specific use-case which needs to fit multiple GPUs or a whole lot of disks -> NEVER, EVER buy Supermicro servers. Cheaply made, upgrading BIOS & firmware is a complicated process using DOS-like tools or the UEFI shell, and all IPMI (management interface)-implementations just suck. Real companies stick to the big 3 (Dell, HPE and Lenovo) for a reason ! I'm not talking cloud providers like AWS or Azure, or platforms like Google or Meta since they build their own custom servers anyway.
* Then, taking a SKU (Platinum 8468) which again, will only perform best in certain workloads and then comparing it with the top-of-the-line EPYC CPU is just unfair. Again, this SKU is for a very specific segment, but most will stick to mid or higher range Gold SKU's.

I know this because I was asked to configure a new HPE ProLiant DL380 Gen11. Our partner vendor specifically mentioned: in this setup, if we need more compute power or capacity, it will be cheaper to add another node than to buy just a single node with the highest CPU SKU, which would easily amount the same price as the whole server with a lower SKU.
So I went for a config with dual 5415+ (we need both PCIe risers for a lot of AIO cards, and DL380 is dual socket anyway), 16 physical cores in total. Since it's the 2nd lowest Gold SKU, it's also a lower TDP version (150W), and can therefore be cooled with the standard heatsink. CPUs above 150W need the high-performance heatsink, CPUs above 330W need liquid cooling..
The project will mostly be running on GPU (RTX A6000 or its datacenter equivalent) and the broadcast-specific AIO-cards (AJA, Matrox, ..).
Not to mention that if you run Windows Server you always have to license at least 16 cores per machine (even though the machine could have less, for example on both Silver 4410 SKU's). Properly licensing those 18 or more core machines will set you back a fair amount - not counting Software Assurance, Server CAL's, Terminal Server licenses etc etc..
But I think I've made my point here. Not every person is able to buy a Ferrari or other hypercar. So why bother with the stuff no one will able to buy, instead of focusing on "realistic" workloads and situations ?

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John Paul Buce
John Paul Buce - 07.08.2023 14:12

ai thingy

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MC Z.E.R.A ARCHIVE
MC Z.E.R.A ARCHIVE - 26.07.2023 18:23

you killed a server with thermal paste Linus 😂

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LiveErrors
LiveErrors - 22.07.2023 11:49

So Intel has become the hardware version of pre recovery Capcom

On chip dlc

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Paul M
Paul M - 16.07.2023 05:32

So I could spend £5000 on a 96 core Genoa chip or £7000 on a 60 core 4th gen Xeon? 🤔

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David R
David R - 11.07.2023 01:22

Interesting that there is no mention of EPYC not supporting 2 DIMMs per channel, which Intel has done since Sapphire Rapids was released. 8 months after launch, 2DPC is still not enabled for EPYC.

But there's no anti-Intel bias here.

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Travel videos
Travel videos - 08.07.2023 08:27

This dude hasn't heard anything about ESD and grounding 😂

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Milan Toth
Milan Toth - 23.06.2023 15:39

This socket seems like the worst one i have ever seen in my life. I dont know how intel has managed to do it.

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MrGracham
MrGracham - 17.06.2023 15:41

fixed tittle -
[Sponsored] Problem with new Intel CPUs - Intel Sapphire Rapids Xeon Platinum 8468 overview

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Armed Brit
Armed Brit - 11.06.2023 00:57

But does it run Crysis?

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Manav Ghai
Manav Ghai - 26.05.2023 08:33

Postgress is one of the most hated DB on the planet. Everyone with a brain use MongoDB, wihch is better. Or some people use something else which is non-SQL wichih is between the SQL postgress.

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PeetHobby
PeetHobby - 21.05.2023 01:13

I would never trust any of my hardware in the hands of Linus. 😁

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Andy Ofori
Andy Ofori - 17.05.2023 23:34

But does it run Crysis

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Thewaterspirit57
Thewaterspirit57 - 17.05.2023 06:33

I think it’s obvious a two socket cpu, each with less cores individually than that other one socket cpu with the same cores of both combined…. Would be better.
The two sockets have to communicate between each other and the ram they have, so of course the two intel CPUs aren’t gonna do better than the one Epyc cpu.

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Cliff Lee
Cliff Lee - 13.05.2023 20:04

Can you guys do a review on sapphire rapids please?

The w9-3495X chip review if possible.

Curious on the strengths and weaknesses of that platform

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THEK0TU
THEK0TU - 12.05.2023 14:48

Honestly, they should fire whoever came up with the locked cores. basically if they were to charge lets say 2000/core to unlock and that CPU is ALREADY 7000. IT could easily make it cost 15000 for a single CPU, that's only a one stop shop. When i buy hardware, i want a fully unlocked and capable product. that's what i am buying, if corporations adopt this then it WILL trickle into the consumer market, allowing companies to come out with locked cores on purchase. This is ATTROCIOUS and should NOT be allowed to continue EVEN if Intel has to go through harsh times or go bankrupt. if i was in any level of IT, id ask if we can black list intel for trying. This is akin to this virus's that hijack your pc and want you to pay to unlock it.. but built into the market. Or allow companies to come out with finished products that lock out features behind a pay wall. then it will also affect other markets too. THIS NEEDS TO DIE

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Thetheoryguy
Thetheoryguy - 11.05.2023 09:21

Linus: Chucks glob of thermal paste into CPU Socket.


Also Linus: Why won't it boot?

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grippysockgf
grippysockgf - 10.05.2023 00:32

Reminds of how some Cisco servers are 🧐

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Wild Wolf Gaming
Wild Wolf Gaming - 09.05.2023 03:30

I don’t think I have heard the sponsor of the video mentioned that many times…. But now I have to get Pulseway and the AMD Epyc CPU for the server I don’t have 😢😢😢

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Bacon Fingers
Bacon Fingers - 08.05.2023 21:24

How can CPUs be cringe? This thing just keep getting wise since lmg become a zoomie safe haven

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3DPrinted Odubunga
3DPrinted Odubunga - 07.05.2023 02:42

Having had the opportunity to play with upcoming chips, AMD is gonna have a problem on their hands soon.

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ZombieSnipe
ZombieSnipe - 02.05.2023 17:24

But can it run a minecraft server

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JJ Mcnab
JJ Mcnab - 01.05.2023 04:52

Intel, spending all their money on management and not on R&D.

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L
L - 30.04.2023 15:31

Most people could get away with just using a 5600G, some fast memory and an NVME, someone should make a small cheap ITX board with limited additions to it and just slap it in a tiny case.

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Rivaldo Bagus Soepardhy
Rivaldo Bagus Soepardhy - 26.04.2023 16:54

What's funny though, is that Intel On-Demand feature is what me and my friends are joking about several years ago. A very simple example of this is that everybody will be (supposedly) buying Core i9s, but with locked cores and features (and supposedly cheaper price). Then as time progress, if you need to get more cores or others features, you just need to upgrade it, and Intel will unlock it for you (The AMD Phenom unlock-core era as I may recall). And turns out, this is what industrial trend will go on like...

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kcw
kcw - 25.04.2023 23:24

The socket design looks really bad. Dislike the fact that heatsink will block the line of sight of the chip when the CPU is still "socketing" in.

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Gianluca Daniele Di Maggio
Gianluca Daniele Di Maggio - 23.04.2023 16:53

Long story short, Intel still sucks xD

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Chirac Beats
Chirac Beats - 22.04.2023 18:46

Working on some space HPC cluster, switched to AMD this year, now i know why

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blackjack4494
blackjack4494 - 22.04.2023 02:00

No one serious in AI runs software on CPU but rather dedicated Hardware. That AI advantage would have been an advantage on consumer PCs or maybe even workstation. However mainly useless in servers. Not to mention the power usage compared when using dedicated hardware.

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Roger Thomas
Roger Thomas - 21.04.2023 14:42

There are a lot of data centers out there that have very low limits on the power that can be suppiled to each cabinet. If you are using such a location and need general compute those power to performance numbers make the evaluation of AMD over Intel a critical business task.

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pleappleappleap
pleappleappleap - 19.04.2023 17:00

Ugh! That's not how you say "Genoa"!

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Júlio de Barros da Hora
Júlio de Barros da Hora - 18.04.2023 18:05

Linus was so serious about paste eating that the time stamp is named "eating paste"

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algirdas piliciauskas
algirdas piliciauskas - 17.04.2023 22:54

Plesae make video about one to one, most powerful from AMD and from Intel, that whill be interesting

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hiddeninthewires
hiddeninthewires - 16.04.2023 12:53

Linus always breaks something

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phil marsh
phil marsh - 16.04.2023 03:11

I would never touch a CPU out of a static bag, without a grounded antistatic wrist strap.

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Zonker Harris
Zonker Harris - 15.04.2023 19:29

Great, who's going to compete with AMD and BE the new AMD?

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Nathan Banks
Nathan Banks - 15.04.2023 15:34

Wow, a CPU that handles terabytes of RAM for the price of an A100 with just 80GB of RAM!
There's a workload somewhere that could use this...personally I'd prefer a dozen A100's...guess that's why that would cost around 12 times as much.

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Kevin Canada
Kevin Canada - 15.04.2023 08:32

Take the clip off first FFS...

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John Smith
John Smith - 15.04.2023 00:28

Linus looks like a gopnik here.

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Shibumae
Shibumae - 14.04.2023 23:55

Does anyone ever feel like AMD is trying to fight a war on two fronts?

The GPU market and the CPU market maybe netter to focus on one or the other then come back.

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jingjing zhang
jingjing zhang - 14.04.2023 05:03

The Intel Xeon Platinum 8471N actually seems like a decent deal costing $5171, as it only uses 300w of tdp and has 52 cores with not terrible clock speeds.

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Michael
Michael - 13.04.2023 06:22

(NO SHOUTING. DO NOT CENSOR) WE KNOW LINUS, YOU ARE AN AMD WORSHIPER!! YOU ALWAYS BADMOUTH INTEL CPUS!!!

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B
B - 12.04.2023 22:03

To this day I've been intel 100%. It's what I've always used, it's what I know and im comfortable with, but having to pay more for the functionality that's already built into the hardware? Oh hell no. you messed up intel

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Diconica Bastion
Diconica Bastion - 12.04.2023 00:22

I'm just waiting for someone to hack the chips and unlock them themselves. This isn't the first time this has been tried and failed for that reason.

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