Optimum D180x300 Quick Change Tool Post SWH-AA

What is this? A toolpost holder for ants!?!? It has to be at least... 3 times this size!

For that little short toolpost that's threaded all the way down in you could use any kind of metal any kind of steel I should say I can't see there being any kind of flexing in that short amount. I would just use 4140 I've never even heard of Swedish steel

Well that’s tiny

Very very small.....It's for a micro lathe....
J'hésitais à commander. Vue la taille, minuscule, je vais m'abstenir.

AA looks like a bit too smaller for this lathe. Right size would have been AS, or Ab as they call it in China. Probably Optimum doesn't sell it.

γεια σου φιλε,το καλυμα που εχεις στο κρεβατι,το μαυρο σαν ακορντεον,πως λεγεται και αν ξερεις που μπορω να το βρω

I guess whoever that company on the box is, they are out of business now. Thanks for dodging that bullet for the rest of us!

Nice job installing the toolpost, I have the same lathe and was thinking of doing the same upgrade. I had planned to use the size up (A) but note the smaller one you use (Aa) is a lot cheaper. Are you happy with the smaller one or would you now advise the size up.

βλεποντας τα βιντεο σας και το ηθελα βεβαια πηρα και εγω εναν optimum ειναι ωραια μηχανηματα αλλα αφου πηγα στην εκθεση metal machinery καταλαβα οτι οποιο μηχανημα και εαν εβλεπα ηταν ιδιο με αλλο χρωμα που μπορει να ηταν και απο το ιδιο εργοστασιο στην κινα και με διαφορες στα χρηματα απο οτι εδωσα εγω τελος διαβαζοντας παρακατω και υελω και εγω να βαλω qctp ποιο μου προτεινεται εαν θελετε ευχαριστω

Are these made by Optimum? Or maybe by Create Tool?

Παρα πολυ καλή δουλειά. μπράβο. Μόλις πήρα και εγω ενα Holzman που μάλλον είναι το ίδιο με το optimum. ήθελα να ρωτήσω τι μανέλες να πάρω γιατί ενώ βλέπω οτι ο εργαλειοδέτης έχει περιθώριο μέχρι 16mm , δεν ξέρω αν αγοράζοντας μια μανέλα των 12 καρέ αν μπορέσω να φτιάξω το κέντρο. Μπορείς να με καθοδηγήσεις αν έχεις λίγο χρόνο. ευχαριστώ πάρα πολύ και για τον χρόνο σου και για τις πληροφορίες που δίνεις σε κάθε βιντεο σου.

Buen video mi estimado amigo una pregunta como podría comprar un juego así para mi torno muchas gracias

Another fantastic video even though 5 years ago. Beautiful work and I love the trick with the mini drill grinding wheel. Never seen that before.

Plz anyone send me this tool post drawing my whatpp numb03443762011 plzz

Do you have 2 blood pressure?

its Awesome Tool. any one can plz tell me from. where i can get it?

The only problem with this sort of lathe tool post design is that having to go back to working with any other system is really frustrating.

You obviously took a lot of pleasure making your tool post installation exactly to your liking. Another fellow might locktite in a factory stud as good enough but in a home shop you set your own standards. However 1045 is excellent fastener material as it's low in cost, is readily machined up to Rc 35, is ductile enough in the annealed state for cold forging, and may be heat-treated to any of the standard fastener grades save those intended for elevated temperature service.

Polar alignment of the holder to the compound's sliding axis might seem convenient until tool orientation to part feature is concerned - ie: threading tool flank symmetry to pitch cylinder. 40 postions has no convenient increment at 30 degres compound angle.

Another point is choice of reference surfaces: the as heat-treated face of the holder is never employed as an abutment. The tool shank contacts the lower ledge and back wall of the holder and thus must be considered as reference and location surfaces. The dip in the face you pointed out is likely an artifact of heat treatment distortion.

I love the accuracy, repeatability, and convenience of the Mulitfix pattern QCTP system. I've used most versions ever manufactured over my career and never once found loose-ness or inaccuracy except in rare instances of 40 years of hard wear and abuse. My personal tooling is based on a "B" set marketed by Enco in the early I '70's and added to via auction finds and Asian import holders. All interchange and repeat to small tenths.

Whether Mulitfix, Aloris, or some other QCTP system is superior seems to be more a matter of partisan opinion than objective merit. I've used most but I've come to favor the Multifix because of Its 40 position feature. If I want to quickly change the tool lead angle for better chip control I can increment the holder angle without disturbing the orientation or dial settings of my other tool holders. Outside of that one feature, all well made QCTP systems have about the same accuracy, rigidity, repeatability, and durability. But it is that one feature - indexibility - that inspired me to commit to the Multifix system for my home shop.

My only downcheck for the Multifix system is the difficulty in making DIY tool holders. The spline is a real challenge for a small shop unless you have some form of reciprocating tool shaping capability and part indexing. My solution was an "E" shaping head on a Bridgport mill and a rotary table. It worked well if I was careful but in general it was a PITA to DIY Multifix tool holders.

The measurement you did actually measured your tool holder alignment to the top slide movement. You are assuming that your top slide is travelling parallel to the ways of the machine. Better would be to mount the indicator base on the machine bed ways and move the whole carriage to measure the tool holder..

check the back of the pocket where the tool will sit too

OLÁ , QUAL O CODICO PARA SER USADO EM TORNO DE BANCADA

What make and model is your lathe ?? I love it !!

Cool tool holder and great job mounting! Why not use the carriage rater than the compound, so to be sure to be dead on z axis? I'm sure it's fine just curious. Thanks for sharing.

Hi that looks a nice bit of kit i am looking for a QCTP for an old English lathe with a 3"swing would that work for ??what make is your lathe hope you can help thaks Andy

Да.. Есть же вещи, которые радуют )

The run-out across the face of the tool holder doesn't really matter, I think if you are going to index the tool holder then it needs to be done at the back face where the tool bit butts against. or the tool it's self

So Jimmy how is it working out for you after 2.5 years? Any problems?
Thanks

I got my TU 2004V with the 'Multifix' factory installed. I think it cost 45euro in labor. Really enjoying working on it. Nice little machines. Only gripe is the cost of the tool holders ... yikes

Very nice one indeed. I have the same QCTP, this one is 100% identical to the one sold by Createtool (Google them). Chinese, yes, but high quality.

I just rigged the same thing up on my D180x300, but I didn't find it necessary to make a whole new post. I just bored out the main gear looking thingy to fit the top slide, and drilled out the top stud that came with the quick change tool post (it looks like yours already fit though). Being all clamped down by the nut on top means it's never going to move.

At around the 7 minute mark you turn the bolt to fit the hole very precisely, then later you bore that hole larger. Very puzzling.

Nice!

Ωραίος!

Beautiful work. Thank you for sharing it.

Hi Jimmy,
I'm wondering if you could get the "factory fit" part from Optimum in the first place so that you don't have to machine the part to make it fit?
I'm asking that because I have d210-400 form optimum and its qctp is quite expensive. If your scenario is usual in industry and it is always expected for us to modify parts to fit even if supplied by OEM then I might as well look into non Optimum sources of qctps.
Thanks,
Bruno

Hi Jimmy,

Nice installation. Thanks for sharing.

Best,

Tom

good

Good job, good quality I know, same as our models 40 positiion quick change tool post.

Hello, could you pass me your email? i have some questions for you

nice video! I realise it is some time ago you have made this, but can you explain how you hardened the shaft? or did you maybe explain that in another video.
thanks, Peter.

Great video! I have a 65x65mm base for my toolpost, what size multifix would you recommend? The Aa or A? :) I'm in a dilemma, the entire length of the lathe is about 1000mm, so its a small one, but i am worried that the Aa is a bit too small in fact :/

it looks like you need to tighten the Gibs in your compound the way your indicator is wobbling when indicating square on the new toolpost.

I amazed you got that package, the address looked very hard to decipher....

OK, thanks Jimmy, wait your information.
regards

Mario.

What does the side of the holder have to do with it? Shouldn't You measure against the cutting edge of the tool? To look for parallellism and/or any taper?
I would put the indicator in a tool holder and check it against a test bar...
Anyway - good explanations in a nice video! Thanks, Erling in Oslo.

Where is the optimum TP made? I cannot find their website.

That sure is an expensive tool post. Anyway one thing that I don't understand is why are you doing the modification? Shouldn't it just fit the lathe right away - out of the box?