PF: WOTR ENHANCED - MULTICLASSING GUIDE: The best DIPS & CLASS SYNERGY COMBOS for OP STATS & MORE!

I contemplated doing a sylvan sorcerer with a dip into scaled fist or into oracle nature for the extra charisma AC but I’m not really a melee character so I’m not sure.

I know this is a bit late, but Thug is also a good dip for a charisma dazzling display focussed character. As you get a lot of bonuses at level 1 to all intimidate checks which includes Dazzling Display. With just 1 level you can apply a heap of status ailments to enemies for almost no cost.

I'm making a kitsune Hex Magus rn and want to be the best dex spellsword but don't know any good multi classes I've thought of dragon heir scion but it got that weird casting class thing that idk about

The dips get nicer with mythic feats. You spotted it with unlimited rage, but you missed it with the option for immediately getting the level 20 option of bloodline.

2 Sensei for an ECC or Empyreal let’s you use Wis for AC and to attack. Thug for 1-4 levels gives you frightening, brutal beating, evasion, and uncanny dodge. Inquisitor 3 gives solo tactics, cunning initiative, and a 10 foot speed boost from the travel domain. Divine Hunter (Hunter) 3 gives otherworldly companion. Fire KK 4 gives a 2D6 touch attack weapon and let’s you get Dreadful Carnage as early as level 5.

I want to try the legend mythic path with slayer as base and one more additional class. How effective would Deliverer 20/Knife Master 20 Starknife be?

I would have a question for a build.
Want to make a BAB spear and board aeon.bso i guess taking a dip from monk and ranger from the main class wich would be mutation warrior i dont know if it would be a good idea

Wanted a more tanky Cleric so I did a 2 level dip into instinctual warrior, a class I had overlooked until I saw this xD so thanks, having wisdom added to AC and initiative plus rage that increases wisdom and damage that stacks with skald rage power is great. Oh yhea, Cleric BaB goes up another point with this so I also will get an extra attack at lv20 haha

Only downside is the delayed spell progression and a pet that will end at lv 19 of my calculations are right.

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Do you know the best multiclass or single class for a "Fae-Character"? (Like "Oko" from magic the gathering) Maybe with an animal companion and support etc? I really love your videos, but actually, I am struggling xD
Thank you for all the stuff you are doing for us!

I just wish the magus spell combat abilities would work with spells from other classes, even if just arcane :( From what I read online it only works with the magus spellbook. I'd really like to play a full spellcaster with spell combat, something like 2lvl magus + wizard + arcane knight for BAB. Unless I'm missing something, I don't think it's possible.

PS: The desciption is kinda misleading, for spell combat it says it works with spells from the magus spell LIST, which is different from the actual SPELLBOOK. But it seems even spells that are in the list can't be cast if it's from another classes spellbook

unfortunately the changing of pet through cavalier dip no longer works as of december patch

unfortunately the changing of pet through cavalier dip no longer works as of december patch

Think your for all your build they realy hélas me ! Can you do a swarm mythic build ? Please i dont find good one think you and detail What mythic take before swarm

Hmm now how to make a character with as many dips as possible ....

1 useful tip for 1 level dipping in sorcerer: you can get a mythic ability that gives you the level 20 Bloodline power.

I wanted to share that arcane bloodline bloodrager can, in demon path, activate both haste and dissplacement. Since both bloodrage and demonic rage count as a rage effect.
Bloodrage>Dissplacement>demon rage>haste>demonic charge> Cleave. Its super fun to do. And if the enemies spotted another character first they will run torwards him, triggering AoO.

Something you hypothesized in the video was that Monk multiclassing has been popular for optimization since the 3rd edition. In reality, it wasn't! The reason is that in the editions of D&D that are like PF you actually had a penalty to gained experience if your classes were more than 1 level apart. Monk was unpopular because not only was it not very good, it made actually good classes worse by requiring your levels to be so close together.

My like is with you. Been watching your guides for insights of my own, went from first time Core struggles, to finishing Hard with ease a few times
Thank you for your work <3
Good job on improving your content! Noticed the transitions and editing improvements lately


Maybe a tip, maybe something to consider:
One thing that may be great for those who watch your WOTR videos, who are already watching them regularly especially, is supplemental written material with progression choices and notes. I personally would still watch videos if they were in place, but referencing the build would be so much easier. Would also be cool to incorporate video links with references in those supplements, I think it would help with discovery. I've been binge watching to find some cool ideas sometimes :D

I agree Instinctual Warrior dip with Limitless Rage is strong, however a Bloodrager 1 level dip can be equally strong. A Celestial bloodline will give you extra 1D6 damage to evil outsiders (i.e, about 75% of all enemies in the game). Not only that, there are several decent items in the game that are limited to Bloodragers.

Arcane Enforcer Slayer is great dip for martials to get instant immunity to mind-affecting spells just at level 1.

Multiclassing bloodrager as an arcane caster removes arcane failure chance.

Keep going like crazy! Good work bro!

I love games that have interesting systems I can learn. I've been enjoying taking the cRPGBro WotR course!

I'd be interested in some broad videos on what the differences WotR and Kingmaker meta game are. Or, maybe some Kingmaker guides on the classes in the mod, in the future.

Really good video. Maybe Two handed fighter lvl 3 dip is a bit underappreciated imho.

Are pets significantly better in WOTR than in the tabletop? I know that they've put in a lot of work across my playthroughs, but for the most part I've never really seen much of them in the tabletop and when I do they are nowhere near as good.

Thank you for the perfect guide!

If you’re a dc caster, you can pick Undead and Serpentine bloodlines to surpass undead and animal immunities to mind-affecting spells(Weird, Overwhelming presence etc..)

Stupid question about instinctual warrior, it says the AC bonus works when unarmoured and not holding a shield, does a buckler count for that too? Since it technically doesn't have the light or heavy tag, it should work right?

Hi I love your guide so much. Your guide is detailed step by step. It helps beginners like me to understand and be able to create powerful characters. Thank you for creating a great guide.

Sylvan Sorc+1 Oracle +1 Monk As OP as it sounds?

Loremaster is the best dip ever.

Here's a fun one. Pick crossblood sorcerer, pick red dragon and gold dragon. Each gives a stacking fire damage bonus. Mythic ability extra bloodline pick brass dragon. That gives yet another stacking bonus to fire damage. You'll now deal an additional 3 fire damage per dice rolled on all fire spells. Scorching/hellfire ray hits so much harder now.

I think this and the previous video are the most useful. Instead of full builds you are explaining elements of a good build, encouraging creativity of anyone who watches your videos.

Thx for another great video! When you mentioned Oracle curses, you didnt talk about wolf-scarred i think. It gives you a free bite attack on level 1 without any penalties, so a good choice for charisma based melee characters

awesome video! maybe you could do the same with prestige classes? i do overall think people do not really play them too much at all, what do you think?

did they change the instinctual warrior?, I played an instinctual less than a month ago and the armor bonus from wis for both monk and instinctual warrior did stack

Hi! Great video as always!
Couple of additional tips I have noticed:
- the first level of Cavalier and Magus/Arcane Rider give 2 pet levels(!) (which is the reason why your Regil build ends up with 19lvl pet with 14lvls of Gendarme), no other class/archetype does this, I tried 😄
- if you take 1lvl of Oracle, take Enlightened Philosopher - you'll get Skill focus Knowledge World for free - useful if you plan on going Loremaster later
- if you take 1lvl of Oracle, note that the Oracle curse will gain 1 lvl per 2 non-oracle levels and that includes mythic levels!
- elemental arcana from Elemental Bloodlines also converts your elemental spells to given type - the description is really bad and does not indicate it at all but it works, so Sorcerer/Crossblooded dip can actually do the same thing as Wizard/Elemental Specialist plus something else

Finally the guide I was waiting for. Much appreciated.

Thanks, I had been messing around respeccing characters to see what might be interesting for multiclassing. This saves a lot of time. I have a good working knowledge of D&D 3.5 but Pathfinder WOTR has a LOT of information to process.

Once again, a perfect gentleman that pronounces "Gendarme" correctly ❤️❤️❤️

Rogue Sylvan Trickster is another way to do what people want from witch. Just for 2 lvls you can get bunch of very useful abilities AND iceplant too. Very useful for DEX focused builds.

great video as always.

i will say, rogues are usually worth dipping for 4 levels. as well as weapon finesse (on most), you can get evasion, uncanny dodge, 2d6 sneak attack and two talent feats, which is a bargain as far as i’m concerned.

Hi.

I think it's worth to a pair of things:

First - dip is useful for saving throws. And you can get a lot of them.
Second - dip is often useful more then 1 class (for example ranger-2, rogue-4, bloodranger).
And the third - is bloodranger itself.

It's very powerful dip, up to 6 levels.
- Bloodlines (more powerful then sorcerer bloodlines - especially serpent bloodline), works only in rage, but limitless rage have been mentiond.
- uncanny dodge && rogue abilities
- primalist subclass, which allow you to select 2 barbarian rage abilities on level 4

Danke!

If you are multiclassing for a charisma based tank, 2 levels of paladin adds charisma to saves without BAB loss, and I cannot recall the name of the archetype offhand, but one of them gives studied target rank 1. If you have sneak attack due to have levels of rogue (debilitating injury, evasion, weapon finesse and finesse training +2d6 sneak attack makes a decent 4 levels for an unarmoured tank), this can be activated reliably. Also, unlike smite evil, it will still function if you cease to be lawful good.

Outstanding work as always. I view you as THE authority on PROTR.

I really wish the practiced spellcaster feat was in this game, it would make muticlassing into spellcaster so much better.