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I had no idea there were so many flavors of Baptist!
ОтветитьI have my own church. We meet on Sundays with exactly one member. We believe we're going to heaven.
ОтветитьI ask this question with all due respect: Aren’t the vast majority of Baptists members of the Trump faithful?
ОтветитьWhat a mess😮 how it theoretically could go:
(Original)Baptist church
True batist church, (schism) the christian baptist church, the one and only baptist church (cult) united baptist church (merge of a few groups of former 2 but not all) , restored baptist church (back to basics), 17 fundemental doctrine baptist church (fundementalist) , acts2 baptist church (pentecostal influenced) deliverance baptist church (charismatic influenced) shism reconstructed baptist church (cesist anti-charismatic) vineyard baptist church ( fully accepted latest charismatic wave (remerge with recon. Btstcrch and another) 2 splits , christs baptist church (anti-charismatic-anti pentrcostal) joel baptist church (fuss about minor charismatic doctrinal differences) Mapalo menacesteries baptist church (influenced by new charismatic wave started by Mapalo) split in 17 fundementel doctrine church about influence of Mapalo movement) original 17 fundemental doctrine baptist church (anti-Mapalo) 17 doctrine church (pro-Mapalo) groups leaving >progressive baptist church (tired of fighting,but keep 17 doctrines,> baptist fellowship (lose some of 17 doctrines, but anti-Mapalo, > Mapalo fellowship (same but pro Mapalo> Moravian-Mapalo baptists (same ,but absorbed a moravian group) > 12 ers (anti-Mapalo,17 fundemental, spechial tradition of purposedly splitting if more then 12 atendees are added for church planting) > christian assembly (17 fundemental but got the no pastor,Dominee ideas of the brethren movement,in comunion with closed brethren)
New split from original 17 doctrine church - baptist church but real (rejects dispensationalism,accepts preterism) split: new life Mapalo baptist church ( split from the former ,restores dispensionalism,pro Mapalo) new merge = prophetic church baptistcals (some of former unite ,with a pentecostal and a adventist,and some Mapalo fellowships) split: Mapalo anabaptists vs Mapalo church (one are anabaptist the other is a cult ,heavy fight over anabaptism,accusation of cultleader and anti or pro Mapalo,charismatic or pentecostal as a whole,) etcetera etcetera 😅
Excellent video!
ОтветитьOne word explanes all 20...."DIVISION!"
ОтветитьThere’s more? I know as a SBC and former member of an Independent Missionary Landmark Baptist Church that there was a lot of variety, I had know idea there was this much and more.
Ответитьdo you have a history of calvinistic baptists
ОтветитьI never knew there was so many divisions of Baptist. The first church I went to was a Calvary Baptist church. What they believe -- "Calvary Baptist - We are neither Five-Point Calvinists, nor are we Arminians. We adhere firmly to the biblical teaching of God's sovereignty and man's responsibility. We avoid any theological systems of belief that go beyond the written Word and thereby divide the body of Christ." This is the same set of beliefs that I have.
ОтветитьWell the Primitive Baptists, they believe, that you can't go to heaven 'less you wash the feet, and that's all, I tell you that's all, but you better have Jesus, and I tell you that's all. :)
ОтветитьBritish Baptists tend to be very progressive
ОтветитьIs there a rationalist movement within Christianity that is sort of similar to scholasticism and the opposite of an evangelical fundamentalist perspective? Even if there's no a name for this, I can sense this perspective being more common among Christian intellectuals than the layman.
ОтветитьWhy you have chosen to present them this way?
such and such… Baptist.
Why not at the core? - that some people who were among Baptist brethren became or end up being called or called themselves such and such… Baptist. Understand the difference?
A group of American Baptists burned down my cousins farm on Iowa because they were Italians! At least they didn’t kill us like they killed the Blacks in the town! I pray for you Christians !
ОтветитьI disagree with both predestination and free will.
One side literally says God personally chooses who will or won't listen to him with the ones he's decided are the won'ts are just doomed to hell. How exactly does that match with God being the ultimate examplar of Love, Grace, Mercy, and Sacrifice? It seems unjust and cruel for God to come to Earth and sacrifice His life for all humanity but then the finer print says He's already decided that there will be humans who will reject Him by His own design. That's confusing to say the least...
On the flip side of that, the concept of free will within the Christian sphere of understanding falls short of the actual understanding of what free will is in the sense that your only choices are choose the christian God only or choose death. That negates and denigrates the inherent validity of other cultures that naturally lack Christian influence and have their own faith practices. I grew up with that ideology, being raised as one of jehovah's witnesses. I dedpise it for it's blatant rejection of God's sacrifice for us in favor of pushing hunan effort as the deciding factor in salvation...
Unfortunately, I feel like I need to start my own church group that focuses more on the spirit of Christian tenets instead of deliberately overcomplicating things. But the sad fact of that is I'd just be a female version of Charles Taze Russell lol
Good video 😊
ОтветитьI was brought up Baptist in the UK
My parents were missionaries
and as a child I mixed with Christian’s from all over the world
Guitar and band music including hymns and choruses were what we was used to
As an adult I became part of an AOG church which followed the same principles
Interstate and foreign Landmark missionary Baptist churches
ОтветитьBaptists can't get along with anyone, not even each other. That's why there are so many different types.
ОтветитьThis video goes into a lot of detail about the differences between different baptist subgroups, but are there any uniquely "baptist" beliefs or traditions that all of these different groups share in common?
ОтветитьMy family has a strong General Baptist heritage on both my parents’ sides, and it was indeed a GB church that I was born into. Outside of the General Association, I don’t often come across anyone who knows what General Baptist is, so it’s kinda cool to hear it mentioned in a video! Thanks for your overview!
ОтветитьI was raised Missionary Baptist (BMA) and Southern Baptist. It's crazy how many Baptist associations.
ОтветитьSo what is Institutional Baptist?
ОтветитьCould you make a video on the Baptists originating from Tyrol in Austria expelled during the counter Reformation?
ОтветитьFree will baptists started Hillsdale College. Cool guys from what ive read
Ответитьonly two groups Fundamental dispensational and all the others into heresy like the calvinists who are sending many into hellfire telling them they don't have to accept Jesus for salvation..
ОтветитьWow
ОтветитьJesus said 1. Love God and 2. Love your neighbor. Simple as that.
ОтветитьI've been a Baptist all my life - was in 'cradle roll' when I was an infant - and baptized when I was five. I was raised Southern Baptist ; mostly in Portland, Oregon if that sounds odd.
I've been asked this very question - why so many? - many times. The short answer is perhaps the most useful.
Doctrine is pretty similar in all subgroups. The triune God, the natural instinct to ignore God and make our own choices, and the gift of God to forgive our sins as humans. There are some activity differences - like how often to celebrate the Lord's Supper (or Communion for some), or how often to have baptismal services. Of course the need for baptism, not for salvation but as an act of obedience and commitment is constant. (That's why they are all 'Baptists'). Some congregations have either a demand or preference for the KJV, some don't.
Differences.
1. How individual church congregations govern themselves. SoBaps hold a monthly business meeting allowing all members of the church to attend, but not mandatory. That is to determine budgets, call a new pastor (if needed), vote on remodeling and those kind of decisions. Other groups have congregations with a board of deacons or elders as an essential governing board. Usually, all major money spending issues go to a general vote.
2. How individual congregations finance their missionaries.
I always think Josh is a Baptist. I can't imagine him as anything else.
ОтветитьI first believed & went to a Pentecostal church and was baptized there, no clue why or what it meant other than it's in the Book. I then went to an Assembly of God Church being told they were more doctrinal. Well maybe so, but you couldn't tell by the preaching and how they spoke about great Christians like Smith Wigglesworth, Aimee Semple MacPherson and I met Kathryn Kuhlman twice and she didn't slay me in the Spirit both times she laid hands on me. So I figured there was something the matter with me and left the church. Never occurred to me that there was something the matter with them. Their extreme Arminianism was pure Pelagian. I started dating a young woman who went to Church of the Nazarene and we got married there. I got manipulated into going too Bill Gothard's Institute of Basic Life Principles seminar. What a yoke of bondage that teaching was.
I was introduced to how to live your life by Biblical principles! As if the Bible didn't already have enough commandments, let's add some more!!! I noticed the seminar taught the law of tithes and offerings just like the churches I had gone to did and WAS presently going to. The "prosperity" teachers didn't come up with a new kind of 'give to get' scheme they got their teaching from the churches that taught the law of tithes and offerings found in the Old Testament. They just blew it out of proportion, but doctrinally they would make good Orthodox Pharisees or a good tithing Baptist of some Baptist Churches that I've been in. You're robbing God if you didn't tithe, pre-taxes tithe. Never mind the families struggling to make ends meet or the single mom asking for help and being denied because she didn't tithe enough, seems $10 a week wasn't enough from someone who struggled to pay rent.
Imagine my shock when we moved and started going to a Conservative Baptist Church where I heard a sermon on God Loves a Cheerful Giver and the pastor preached if we are going to follow the Law of tithes then we better start keeping the Sabbath too. It was a big church too and people wanted to give. I called that single mom and told her to go there. Board of Deacons wouldn't hire a pastor that preached tithing. They had a good program for struggling families.
Once upon a time, none of these existed.
ОтветитьThere's like 14,000 different Christians now..I don't even know what a Christian is anymore...
ОтветитьCan you do a video on Sons of God denomination?
ОтветитьHow has the baptist church survived so long .. as fractured as it is?
ОтветитьWow I thought the Lutherans were complicated!
ОтветитьThe disunity of Protestants is a dead giveaway that maybe Catholicism is the way to go 💀
ОтветитьSaw a Reformed Baptist Church today and excitedly returned here to refresh on its details.
ОтветитьOnly way to keep us Baptists in one accord would be put us in a Honda Accord 😅🦉✝️
ОтветитьBaptist are a fake christian. Especially Baptists founded by Smith. The original Baptists are the original Baptis (,John tide Baptist, aka, the fundamental Baptists) are original Baptists. See the trail of blood for the description.
ОтветитьIs it any wonder that there is so much confusion in the world about what it means to be a "Christian?"
ОтветитьCan anyone tell me which Baptist groups hold to the New Hampshire confession of faith? Besides GARBC if any.Thanks
ОтветитьAll Baptist all different all confused not the true church
ОтветитьAs a proud and devout member of the North American Baptist Conference I was thrilled to see Joshua mention us. We are 65,000 members strong and adhere to the Word of God but don't make the same amount of noise as say the SBC.
ОтветитьAnd each of them thinks they know the Truth 🤣 oh yeah, "sola scriptura" in practice 😁
ОтветитьI loved living in Spain in the mid-80s. The Spanish simply asked if I were a Christian or a Muslim. Sometimes it was difficult to break away from a conversation regarding Jesus and the Scriptures because of the thirst and hunger of those I would meet. Conversations could go on for hours upon hours.
ОтветитьI remember sitting in a baptist church at 5 years old absolutely amazed at all the idiot adults pretending to believe the retarded nonsense some clown up front was saying. My parents were evil rotten losers and hated me because I could see through all that of that junk no matter how much they tortured me. My siblings and I have had lots of trouble in life because we were not able to grow up in a decent family. Baptist..... thats all I need to know right there!
ОтветитьI'm not kidding; I GO TO THAT CHURCh in the background; it is First Baptist Church of Morris, Illinois.
ОтветитьI have been a Baptist since I was 13. I agree with mostly everything in the video. However, I would like to point out that initially the terms "General Baptist" and "Particular Baptist" mainly referred to those Baptists who disagreed on whether the atonement was limited or unlimited. So, the term "General Baptist" can also refer to those Baptists who agreed with the other four points of Calvinism except "limited atonement." So, all General Baptists did not believe in loss of salvation. Particular Baptists believe in all "Five Points of Calvinism including Limited Atonement. It is the same today as well. While many Baptists agree on things like total depravity or perseverance of the saints (eternal security), they disagree on the point of Jesus dying only for the elect.
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