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Thanks man, exactly you're not solving any problem, what is the purpose so? I don't think that video is good in second place because we all are tired of videos as well. We need more creative ideas that will not be punch in the face.
ОтветитьYou are correct. But designs with onboarding screens have more likes than normal designs in behance/ dribble. Making designs with onboarding screens for the portfolio is helpful to get clients to someone starting out as a designer. What's your thought about that?
ОтветитьYeah, you’re talking about meaningful things. Gracias, thank you
Ответитьshowing a video ? nah bro
thats even way more annoying than the onboarding screens...(takes u away more time)
i agree , will there be next video about different app ui screens like splash etc. ??
ОтветитьA video to explain the app components is actually a very good idea!
Show, don't tell is an important value in marketing and showbiz.
people use illustrations as salt bae use gold flakes to cover his mediocre steak
ОтветитьIt's more useful to put important things in onboarding like selling your IAP, subscription, getting them to do referrals and turn on permissions like notifications/geo instead 👍
ОтветитьWhat fonts do you recommend?
ОтветитьSadly with A/B testing with a paywall at the end of a short 3 screen onboarding vs no onboarding, for a freemium app - revenue is 60% higher if you show the onboarding in our case, and therefore as a business onboarding is a necessity.
ОтветитьHi! I am designer in grocery delivery app and we have something important and unique for our region, it's recipes and combo meals (our competitors doesn't have it ) but people use our service mostly after bigger players and we see they are not expecting those features but just grocery shopping.
We started to work on onboarding journey and how do you think better to represent it? We have an idea of video reel on splash background.
This is very true
ОтветитьAlways good content! Thanks for this video man!!
ОтветитьSame issue with dribbble. Its a collection of nice to look at images, that will never be put into an app or a website. They are all just colorful and templateish...but Not real design, problem solving screens
ОтветитьOnboarding doesnt work. It’s just a roablock to TTV (Time-to-value). Onboarding should be getting the user to do the first habit/hook cycle model in the app. This has been a very successful pattern used in Game design for decades.
ОтветитьWhat about when your app is dedicated to older users and they really apreciate short introduction to get familiar with The features? What about when your app is suppose to be dedicated to 26 different languages?
ОтветитьVery to the point! Great video
ОтветитьIf an app needs 5 minutes of instructions, it probably is trying to do too many different things. Apps should serve a focused purpose; a specific tool, not a whole toolbox.
ОтветитьThanks for this Mike ! I can’t agree more, onboarding is over boring !
In addition, as a designer myself, I always wondered: if onboarding screens are necessary, then does it mean that my product isn’t easy enough to use? Instead of working on onboarding screens, shouldn’t I spend time to improve the product itself and make it easier to use ?
Onboarding is a way to wow someone to collect information. Nobody is wow'd by using these same illustrations over and over again.
Ответитьi hate these illustrations. We must excrete them from UI designs
ОтветитьPerhaps more useful than onboarding screens or videos would be a new feature tour using tooltips so you are only highlighting key areas of the UI that may be less common/more unique for the product. Users can swipe through this tour if they want to skim the content, they can close the tour if they wish or they can take their time to digest the information at their own pace. The point is this gives users more control than a video would. With a video, users need to watch sequentially in order to take in all of the information and this takes away some level of control from users because they are receiving information set at your pace and not set by their own pace.
ОтветитьI respect you more and more after watching this video
ОтветитьAdobe apps force me through onboarding carousels after every update.
I now actively despise them and will just uninstall apps that use them.
If a program is prepared to needlessly waste my time at the first point of contact, it's only going to get worse from there.
What about using carousel for a feature release? I copied how Google does this and made an instructional GIF showing how to use each improvement. 80% of people completed and 3000 people have viewed.
ОтветитьI would say you can add some onboarding screens to your portfolio if illustration is actually one of your sellable skills. As in you're applying for positions that want some visual development, unique style asset creation, etc.
ОтветитьI hate all those trendy onboarding stuff as a user. I feel like the app doesn’t care about my time. So it not respect my time. So why I should respect it back? Nope. It’s so useless and pointless, brings only frustration and disappointment. And wasting my time! Oh, it’s supposed to teach me how to use this app? Guess what! Reading extremely short “manual” before using something new will not teach me how to use it. The actual experience of using the app will. Totally agree with the author. 👍 Startups - get rid of this 💩 and start respect our time.
ОтветитьI see your point but I think that: There are some (most of) users that skip the on-boarding phase, but there are also the users (like myself) that don’t skip it and read it all (mostly if it’s short like 3 screens).
If we always use the “skip” button to comply with the users that don’t like the on-boarding experience, why would you get rid of it if the second group will no longer be supported?!
I agree with your overall point that the current onboarding is pretty useless. The only thing weird is the part where you say that "This is not design". It absolutely is, that is a design pattern for onboarding, if it is effective or not, that is another point. If we take this statement as fact, no app would be "design", since most follow patterns for navigation information hierarchy and so on.
Ответитьyou just out ideas my dude stop saying bullshit
ОтветитьAmen to that
ОтветитьMy companies application has an onboarding more akin to basically entering in their data such company name, location, address, positions, etc as a walk though. Rather than overwhem the user with a giant ass form, we find its less easier to enter little bits of info in a series of steps. The onboarding saying you can do X, Y and Z on separate screens is totally useless. Even the onboarding that gives helpful hits that point to parts of the UI is pretty annoying. Thanks, but i dont need an arrow telling me this is where i can save a file.
ОтветитьWhat if your users are from places which has low internet connectivity.. for example. Farmers(next billion users) who needs the onboarding yet +/- 60 seconds videos cant load in their city
ОтветитьWhat would your recommendation be for more sophisticated business web systems?
ОтветитьPersonally I would never watch a video over some small instructional slides. One of the reason being in a video there's uncertainty of how much time i need to invest or if it is worth listening to. To me it would be like ugh another video of person back seating user. Putting video of person talking gives a personal touch which is felt to users as kind of having conversation and not many people like this experience. More of technology on a part works on reducing human touch but still give good human experience.
ОтветитьSomebody give this man a trophy!
ОтветитьOnboarding screens can be used to introduce new features of an app that users are unaware of.
ОтветитьTrue but I wouldn't dismiss the possibility that the designer just used the onboarding to display its original illustration in that case I wouldn't see a problem because it's not about being able to design the 2/5 of screen of very simple UI but the illustration itself... that could be isometric, 3d , motion graphics animated.... but in some of these examples it would be better to have the illustration/mo graph video separated altogether and maybe in a collection/account that publish only that type of work to avoid confusing potential hirers
Let's not forget that being able to illustrate and animate is a great side skill for prodcut designer that could become brand designer in an agency
Bottom line, make it clear to the employer what is that you're selling
💯 Man I Gotta Ask...
WHERE do you host video for this kind of "Vertical Onboarding video?"
Its really a god idea, but most cloud servers charge a ton for network-egress
THANKS!
How about we use something like those short 30 second instagram ads for brands in onboarding. Those ads have some bg music and motion graphics. So it's not cognitively heavy for people and a fun way to welcome and explain about the app.
Ответитьbut what if i made those illustrations myself
ОтветитьThank you so much for this, aside from me being a junior designer, whenever I am using an app for the first time, I skip the on boarding cos I know what the app entails. So I started to realise if me myself I can skip and not read it, then it’s of no use to many users.
Beautiful suggestion of having a short video on what the app entails, and even that should depend on nature of app and not even all type of apps.
Almost done with mobile ui part 1 question. Do you go over columns/margins anywhere in a course or channel? I heard that’s important when working with developers
ОтветитьI don't know about you but I loved this approach: 62nd or 92nd seconds of video as onboarding screen instead of carousel of images. I think is what the user want to see to understand the product and go to use it. Thank you so much!!!🤩
ОтветитьThere is a purpose of onboarding screens. it is to get user to understand the app before they use it. if your app is similar to most apps in the market, there is no need for it but if your app has some functions that users might not be aware of, that can be displayed in the onboarding screens. And to be honest, the idea for putting a video instead is not at all a good or a creative approach. A lot can happen on onboarding screens.
ОтветитьPratically a video funnel or a short funnel.
ОтветитьReally agreed with you. Thanks for sharing <3
ОтветитьI agree and find this very annoying. It should be optional. And if you are in love with the look of the app, it's called "graphic design" and that is what you should be doing instead. You can mix both, which I do because of my background, but if that is your main interest you are in the wrong profession.
ОтветитьI 100% agreed. Yesterday I also came to the same conclusion for my app
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