Eve Online - The Perspective of a Ganknado Gate Camping (Tornado Ganker)

The only way to avoid being ganked like this is to understand the strategy. Plus piracy is a part of our game. Please continue. I'm sure there are more subtle details in the strategy that will benefit us.

Just buy a bot that scouts high traffic areas like everyone else does.

I love the idea of ganking. I’m new to EVE and having such an immense video game background from dev to consumer - I personally think EVE would be incredibly boring without ganking. It creates a mature atmosphere for the game, and forces the element of strategy everywhere you go. Being able to be attacked in a “safe” high-sec system really differentiates EVE from other MMOs, for example RuneScape which has separate worlds for PvP.

Incredibly frustrating. Was hauling in highsec, was on a gate and used the "dock" option on a station. went thru warp just fine, landed at the station "Docking permission requested" BOOM. insta locked, insta killed by a tornado. This is ridiculous. this kind of thing isn't a matter of "being outplayed"... if the server randomly decides to take longer to let you dock... and leaves you hanging out infront of a suicidal d-bag. Piracy is one thing, when the game just doesn't work like it should... thats something else...

This presentation gives the false impression that the gankers are facing a significant risk/reward situation, or that they are selective in picking targets. I've been playing for years - every time I've been ganked, the loot the ganker got wasn't very valuable. Most of the times I've been ganked, it was just griefing. Profitless. Pointless. Infuriating.

Where are all that clicking tools, that gankers use?

Being ganked sucks but I like the video.

For those who want to avoid getting ganked, use a high-speed ship

"doo doo hauling" gross XD

Extremely informational shit right here. Good stuff.

I dont think u can 1shot an blocade runer

It's crazy Eve is as old as it is and finding videos from this perspective are so rare to find.

I cannot agree with your assessments but I enjoyed your video and appreciate your good efforts, thank you.
It is far more fun to be the rabbit than the fox. The fox risks very little while the rabbit risks everything. For the rabbit, every encounter survival is a victory without a reward or a stat to gloat over except the rabbit knows that they are still alive and the fox goes hungry again.
In my experience, gankers are lazy and low skilled juveniles.
That is why they are gankers. They have little or no conception of other people and are focused on the next lick of the lollypop. You even demonstrate your own lack of patience and frustrations. A few hours and you are frustrated!!! Then you claim that you have patience!!! A seriously good example of a lack of patience in a game very much skewed towards the bullies and unethical.
Many gankers are following someone else's orders and deserve the respect that all lemmings deserve.
There are a few rare exceptions that demonstrate a creative and longer term dedication to being a D#@%. These are few are far between but they are obvious and add rich content.

How much does damage does a ship like that put out?

Yes thank you. I want to know how ganking is done. So that I can understand and counter

I gotta start playing this game again, I miss ganking. This was one type of ganking I never gave a serious attempt at tho, I was more into going -10 hunting miners and guys doing PI. Maybe the occasional freighter fleet. That and being a prick to mission runners and suspect baiting them, but idk if you could call that ganking. I used to laugh myself to tears looking at some of those ratting fits on the km.

As much as it's annoying to get ganked, it is an important part of the game and it should stay that way

Gankers stimulate the economy. I lost a worm in hi-sec because I went to do abyssal runs in a quiet but 0.5 system… went to the wrong neighbourhood and paid the price. The ship wasnt really expensive but I had to go and by a new one :/ There are soo many things I could have done to prevent loosing my ship ( just put AB on and burn away) go to a different system… so on… I panicked when I saw 7 catalyst on grid next to me. I had a good laugh when the ganker sent me a thank you mail for the donation they received from my wrecks. Learnt a lot from this situation and now I am more aware of things.

Wow” I haven’t played eve since 2014, Started in 2010, Now my pilot is sitting in Enderailen -10 lol, I’m sorry to say” I was a Ganker” and brutalised many 😳

Uedama system in Caldari space is like the Grandline in One Piece. Just lawless death and chaotic.

I like to trick a few gankers in to ganking My Over tanked miasmos or My DST then Selling the kill rights. ;).. Ben ganked a Lot myself

As a miner / industrial person, i really used to hate gankers, then i realized, if i get ganked, its totally my fault. Since then i bought a viator and use couriers when possible. Gate camps are part of the game, and i respect it totally. Even so after losing a bill to them :D

i appreciate all aspects of the game, even piracy and ganking. keep it up. Everyone has a role to play and that is what makes this game interesting.

Ganking adds more gaming content. If I ever need to move expensive stuff in and out of Jita I always use a Crane fitted for 3 sec align, insta covert cloak leaving gate and warp to 0, fitted with warp stablizers. Helps survive camps and trig camps.

There are very few videos on this topic for EVE. Please make more of them. Very interesting topic

Interesting video, i only got ganked on my alt by triglavians wich killed and empty houler, i move my loot in other ships than houlers, bu now im doing PI, and im forced to use Epithal, do you have a very good fit?

I'm usually not a serious target for gankers because I don't haul the kinds of cargo that are worth the cost. But recently I was ganked when I took a courier contract in an Iteron Mk. V with a good payout and collateral of 150M, but when I put the package in my cargo hold it had over 2 billion in goods. I cannot figure out what was up with that. It couldn't have been a case of somebody planning to gank me for the collateral, because the goods were worth way more and a lot of them were destroyed. But why would anyone do that? And why was a gang of Tornadoes camping a gate off the beaten path? I had already accepted the contract and I knew I'd probably get nailed but it was not between two hubs so I figured maybe I'd get lucky. Alas, no.

Even as an Industrialist and Hauler its interesting to see the perspective of the Ganker. Great video, please do more!!!

It's weird to say and think this way but, I'm actually Pro-Ganking and I'm not even a ganker.

Think about it. Every time a suicide gank happens at a minimum 2 ships plus modules are lost. What do you need to replace those? Industrialists.
and who fuels those manufacturing plants? Miners.

Everybody wins.

It sucks when it happens to you or me but, it's for the greater good for the economic ecosystem in High-Sec.

The best way to avoid ganks from perimeter-jita is a cheap courier contract for 1 jump with high collateral.

gankings apart of eve ppl need to grow some balls and safe guard themselfs when they un-dock "hell wen im bord ill go find a mining ship kill it then send the dude nuff to replace the ship " - just cus deep down im a nice guy and i once killed a dude while he was moveing his hole eve life and he quit which didnt feel nice so now i send my victims some isk and if i look them up and think they are new ill send them a msg with a few tips on how to avoid what just happend

i tend to do that in non trade hub system and 0.5 system , there is less chance to be countered, and, i must say, some people have shitty fit and it makes way more profitable. you will wait more (or not, depending on your luck) but when you target something good its 99% chance of getting the loot without any trouble

Nice Video. I wouldnt gank with 2 chars anymore cause it's too much pressure. But even with 3 chars you need a lot of patience or luck.

This has taught me what gate ganking is all about. The things I take away from this:
They must be very patient,
They must be very bored.

Ganking is a revenue stream. For the big fleets, that's the only reason they do it. The trolling that follows it, simply fuels the propaganda. Goonswarm uses it as a marketing tool, keeping their name constantly live in new players' minds. Those new players then sometimes abandon high sec for null sec which is what the null sec guys want ultimately.

Ganking miners/orca in high sec is also how some entities believe they can/are controlling the ore coming onto the market. Null sec powers care very little about those players who choose to call high sec home.

Obviously its also become a tradition at this point, and if you can get big value kills on the board for very little loss to your bottom line, why wouldn't a group add it to their portfolio of activities.?

I'm one of those anti-gank people, but honestly there is a separation in my mind between piracy and ganking. To my way of thinking, what you're doing here is piracy, and when it's done well it's a thing of beauty. I have zero interest in doing it myself, but I get it. Ganking to me is douchebags killing newbies with throwaway T1 destroyers. This video was actually very helpful to me, as I've never had issues past Kusomonmon, which is where my scout usually turns around and heads elsewhere. I also use a DST, and I tend to stop using the cloak/warp trick in the same system. Seeing you in Perimeter has made me change my thinking on that. Thanks!

It's good to see the cost from your perspective.

I know this video could rub some people the wrong way but figured I would post it anyway. I hope you all learn something and if you want me to post more ganknado videos for educational purposes or just to see me fail and die to CONCORD let me know below!