How Did Ancient Sparta Really Fall? | The Spartans | Odyssey

Absolutely FANTASTIC video!! Thank you so very much for putting it together and posting.
Great job! 👍👍👍

I cant stand that lady Bettany peddling half truths.

I think "Lysander" is pronounced "Lysander".

Everyone can appreciate a passionate person

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I have read Thucydides at least two times...excellent commentary...

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The parallel with 2013 USA is very interesting. A small ruling elite dependent on but despising the subservient masses of disenfranchised slaves is very apparent. Hopefully the "slaves will wake up to this eventually and rebel against their elitist corporate masters.

The Spartans were not man enough to reproduce. They weren't men enough to fertilize the Spartan women. The original pretty boy pansy.

I could invade this brunette like a vicious spartan.

Bettany did a wonderful job presenting the Spartans. The problem with Spartan society was the strict definition for citizenship and slavery. It requires someone (the Messinians) to be the slaves and do all the hard labor. While Spartan citizen males dedicated themselves to soldiering. After centuries of battle the number of Spartan citizen males declined. With a strict definition of who can be a Spartan citizen the male citizens declined until the loss at Lefktra to the Thebans. The Thebans liberated the Messinian Helots (slaves) and that was the end of the utopian hierarchal structure of the Spartans. There is nothing ideal about Spartan society. It was a utopia if you were on top as a Spartan citizen. Everyone else was on the bottom. I guess that was why the US had to end slavery with its own Civil War. A strict hierarchal society with slavery is not compatible with the ideals of democratic republicanism. I read some of the comments below. It seems a lot of Americans do not know why the American Civil War was fought.

Greeks were such an extraordinary Nation, totally educated and also horribly gruesome, being Scientist and cruel pagans at the Same time)

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intelligent and beautiful too boot love these vids with Bettany

Nice to watch a historical program like this which uses an attractive female narrator as opposed to the male figure wearing tan safari clothes. She wears feminine clothes, jewelry, even a dress believe it or not. It's quite possible to come across confidant and respected on your subject wearing a dress as this lady does.

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AND they failed to make kids since the men loved playing with each other 😮.

I want Bettany to shave bald and wear chiton in the dark if you know what I mean

Always informative and enjoyable, many thanks 👏👏👏

The Spartans were idiots ....you get healthy fertile women from slaves and breed them to give you Spartans ..

QUESTION: There is a hypothesis that the dramatic changes in Athenian philosophy of the 5th century BCE came in consequence of their exposure to the monotheism of the Jews after their diaspora in the 7th century. For example, Socrates disparagement of Greek gods and description of what a true God would be like - views which led to his execution for blasphemy.
Does anyone have data backing up this hypothesis, or more information?

I'm about 15 minutes in, she does tell a great story, and I will finish the rest. But damn she is so dramatic and snide! Slow down lady, your interpretations is indicative of someone who is not truely rooted in the avatar that is your human body.

Bettany is an amazing combination of intelligence and beauty - very hot! 🔥🔥🔥

Bettany is the most distracting historian ever

My goodness...she's a goddess worthy of worship herself.

It can also be argued they fell becouse they turned homosexual.

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positive there were never any bones found there at that site where they apparently were thrown off shouldve been hundreds

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Athens was better

Sparta fell because all the wealth and power was transfered to women after their men died. Creating a gigantic wealth gap and a very unstable political hierarchy

amazing docu

This was an excellent documentary. She gets some things wrong, though and leaves a lot out.

Leuktra was a bad defeat for Sparta, yes. But they had suffered worse defeats in the past. Leuktra showed Greece that Sparta could be defeated. After Leuktra, Epaminandas, the General that defeated Sparta at Leuktra would invade the Peloponnese 3 times in 9 years. It was during these invasions that Sparta was emasculated. After the invasions ended, and Epanminandas' own death at the 2nd Battle of Matinea, in 362 BC, the city of Megalopolis was formed on Sparta's northern border to keep Sparta and spartan activity in check. The city was formed by former spartan helot cities, so they had plenty of reason to hate Sparta.

During Alexander the Great's reign, Agis III, the grandson of Aegilus, revolted against Macedon. He was able to put together an army of 20,000 infantry and 2,000 cavalry. They fought Antipater, Alexander's Regent in Macedon, and his Macedonian army of 40,000 men outside of Megalopolis. It was the largest battle on Greek soil since the Battle of Platea. Antipater defeated the Spartans, and in the aftermath, Sparta never recovered. They ended up building a wall around the city of Sparta in 317 BC.

Leuktra knocked Sparta down a peg or two. Epaminandas' invasions of the Peloponnese knocked them several more pegs. Antipater defeating Agis' army at Megalopolis was the knock-out blow.

The spartans behaved very similar to the gael and the scandanavians of europe before they became the vikings. The men were fornicating with each other often in front of the women and this was the social and relationship structures and norms this left the women to tend to children and even made them accountable in the wars with the romans, there was a time in history when the scandanavian and gaelic women were the biggest threat to civiliisation at the time which were the greek and roman empires. roman centaurions armed with the latest weapons, armour and training could only last a few weeks in the forrest land of europe before returning home and needing rest, however the women of these tribes fought in this terrain and remained there hunting for their food. the greeks left them but the romans tried to abolish them due to this, as rome grew and more people wore togas and drank wine etc the softer the men became. The greeks told us this the said the women of these tribes would match the men in courage and warfare and their roles in the tribes was purerly child bearing . nero fiddles in make up and a dress while ten miles outside of rome the women of scandanavia and the gael could kill him easy so they tried to eradicate them over this in the end rome was conquered the roman centaurion could not survive the terrains and fight the wars and they knew it.

Excellent

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The moral of this story is that if you want your culture to survive, allow immigrants to become equal members of society.

This was phenomenal. Everything was above and beyond. Had to pause the vid to say that...

Jeez Bettany are you teaching me about the fall of Sparta or taking me out to the opera.

While watching the modern Greece to be such brown filthosexual parasites, its impossible to believe these talltales about ancient Greece.

Short version Alexander finished them off.

Easy, their system for maintaining quality was so stringent that it was unsustainable. Quality is important, but so are numbers. You can eventually wear down a smaller force no matter how good they are. Once the Spartan system was put under stress, and numbers were needed, the Quality and devotion to the state declined. This lead to their decline and eventual fall.

Damn. Baby got back!

Sparta fell because the Roman Republic had stronger allies, Rome had far more resources and better Generals, and Sparta was divided it's inner turmoil broke Sparta's power!! The death blow for Sparta, was the death of Cleomenes III and Nabis becoming King, and Titus Quinctius Flamininus, Philopoemen, and the Achaen and Aetolian Leagues!! THESE are the Real reasons Sparta fell....

Sparta was beaten in a war of maneuver. They clung to the old phalanx system. Conservatives take note.

From what I gathered, the Spartan requirements for citizenship were so stringent that they all but depopulated themselves.

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So interesting I had to watch it twice.