The Most Faithful Recreation of Peter Green's Sound?! - NEW Pickups from Monty's Guitars!

I'm not sold on the Greeny pups there's far better sounding ones to my ears out there such as the Peter Florance voodoos which are highly rare & collectable tragically due to the sudden death of Peter they aren't being produced anymore which is such a very deep shame
Another killer set of pups are the stock 50 sr 60 st that came originally included in the Epi Elitist axe which undoubtedly is the best Epi ever made & in Japan sadly no more either which makes these axes highly collectable amongst the many enthusiasts out there

its just got a backward magnet in the neck pickup...loosen up 4 screws and flip it around yourself...
It's not really difficult...works on any humbucker pickup you may have...

Good video and great to see that Peter Green's playing and guitar mod is still of interest to players. I did this mod 20+ years ago to my 92 Les Paul Studio. Back then it was still a bit of a mystery as to how that "quack" tone was achieved so I to the lazy way out and made contact with Seymour Duncan and he built me on using and Antiquity pickup as the starting point and then I replaced the bridge pickup with a stock Antiquity pickup. I also use flat wound strings to get as close to the late 60's British blues sound. And you're spot on with the effect of rolling off the bridge pickup volume to modify the tone ... my actually gets slightly louder as I roll down the volume to 8 and the tone changes slightly. Again great video.

Not sure why I need a "loom" or how to get my hands on a "quid". Is the loom just another fancy word for sales tax?

The pu makers should have demoed more and talked more, and the host should sit back and shut up and learn. He's boring and thick in more ways than I care to count. Also knocking epiphone guitars is another minus. Epiphone makes a solid guitar that fills the void of the 5, 000 gibson and the working musicians. But as he points out he plays a 58 gibson custom shop. Not an epiphone. If you can afford a 58 cs, why cut up another less pricey brand? Shutup already

The sound of Led Zeppelin

Not as easy as it seems to get the perfect volume « spot » 😮

Technically any distance between the peak of the sine waves means that the pickups are out of phase. They can be out of phase by different amounts, that are measured in degrees or radians. ‘Fully out of phase’ just means that the wave of the second pickup would be 180degrees out of phase from the first, or just a cosine wave. At least if I understood the material in my Physics 467 class, which was on different types of waves and their behaviour, focusing on electrical waves and spring forces. Fully explaining it needs imaginary numbers and Euler’s equation which would take forever

Matt seriously needs to make a set of pickups from Peat's guitar. I'm pretty sure that's what sets Peat's guitar apart from other LPs, and I would totally buy a set. I have Monty's Greeny's in a Heritage and they are just incredible.

In old days, manufacturing of any product was followed/backed up by constant real lab testing, research, tweaking....these days it is done " too much" via computer modeling that processes only dry raw data...human touch is missing so results reflects all of that

The Gibsons sound good but the montys are just sublime. I can hear more of a 'knopfler ' tone in them.

Here’s a free tip. Everyone wants to throw money and parts at a problem.
If you want to get that tone you need to do more than buy a guitar or pickup. You can get close to greeny sounds out of a stock LP if you experiment with diff tone settings for each pickup indivisually and then you go to the middle position and see how it sounds. And you just need to go back and forth between neck and bridge pulling tone/volume out of one then the other. And checking the middle again. If you do it right you can get that quacky strat on wah kind of sound from a standard LP while also keeping good tones on neck and bridge for the trifecta. For greeny imo nobody talks enough about how It was more about his different tone settings virtually than having a weird clash in the middle spot alone. Do you think Peter Green played with his guitar controls dimed all day and had some of the best tones ever. No. He played with the controls.
Go forth. Experiment. Do a thing.
Youre welcome😊
I’m not at a guitar rn so I might confuse a knob remotely, but I personally like to have the bridge with a lot of tone pulled out. Muddy it right up. If you dime your bridge volume and roll off the tone it should do the hollow wah pedal sound. Then I’ll mess with the neck pickup tone pot and make little adjustments until I get both a tone i want on neck only for contrast but set so it also quacks and hollows out when it’s party time in the middle. Combine with a tube screamer and pull some tone out of that too and try the gain knob. experiment.
You can get borderline wah sounds from a LP straight into a clean amp by putting it on bridge pickup and rolling off all/most of the tone you start to get a wah sound. What you need to do is experiment with your personal guitar and get it to carry that wah sound over to the middle position while trying to keep some of the tone bite in the neck and keep adjusting the volume knobs to get the right ratio between them in the middle. It depends on your individual setup. but it’s there. You can find that tone (and many other cool ones) by messing with the knobs relationships with each other.
I get better greeny tones out of my standard 60’s than I’ve seen in actual 20-50k$ greeny reviews. I fiddle with my settings. I can get killer tones straight into my Marshall Origin 20 combo at living room volume levels. But when I wanna take it next level I’ll boost that dialed guitar thru an archer ikon into a tube screamer. By futzing with the dials on guitar and both those pedals I can get more tones than a Line 6 lol.

Phil Harris is the guy who had greeny between Gary Moore and KH

Hey Lee? WTF do you think Gibson puts 4 knobs on LP’s?

I was wondering WHEN the volume controls would come into play (Lee).....very nice ...all of them...but The Befnul Gween set are top of the heap here....I wonder what a 57/08 PRS set would sound like given the same treatment?...P.S I love the Monty's pickups anyway...I have some.

1 person in a thousand can tell the difference between magnetic and electric phase reversal- Keep the buckers you already own and simply reverse the wires on one pup (assuming you have the appropriate wires) OR better yet.. buy a DPDT switch and have both sounds...

Yeh, I'm obviously missing the point.
Only saw Peter live 3 times and I'm not hearing anything like his tones.
I'm stuck with an old Samick Epiphone until I meet a Gibson that plays or sounds sweeter.
No mention of the strings?
Bucket load of guitar shop vibrato and sales hype.
Keep it real.
I have no objection to anyone who is giving it their best all the same.
Peter Green, world keep on turning.
If you doubt what I've added.

I imagine it’s an amazing upgrade if you got a custom shop , you fancy a little change is needed

£459 for bespoke pickups , is gonna make that standard Les Paul , sing in a new way . It’s definitely a fair price .

Great video !!

The best pickups I've ever tried were Wizz Pickups 🔝

What makes these Peter Green pickups more of a faithful recreation then the other 20 or so top shelf boutique wound Peter Green authentic PAF clones. Every one of those winders claim their is the most accurate and every set have near identical specs . Same outputs and most have the same Magnet . Most have alnico 2 magenta but there are a handful or so that use A5 but A2 is most common . The neck is almost always 7.8k to 8.2k and the Bridge 8.6k or 8.7k flipped magnet plain enamel mag wire for the bridge and heavy formvar for the neck. The specs are almost identical in every set because there have been winders who were given access to the guitar and got to examine the pickups and take measurements of the outputs of each pickup and take gauss readings of the magnets so the specs for the original pickups have been known for a long .
So what makes Montys more accurate then the Throwbak version? The Bareknuckle version ? WCR? And so many other highly regarded boutique versions. Are Montys one of the winders who got to examine the originals? Even if they are they are not the first the only ones and if they were not wouldn't that make the winders who examined the originals have the more accurate versions.
In the end none of this really matters because the secret to the tone is not rocket science . Take any high quality 1959 Alnico 2 based PAF clones with an 8.k neck and 8.5 to 8.7k bridge and flip the neck pickup magnet and you got the sound .
Personally I find the standard in Phase middle tone to be more versatile. And the out of Phase tone limiting. With right les Paul and the right pickups you can get the Tele om steroids middle tone which sounds far more appealing then the out phase tone .

standing on the shoulders of Giants.. that's technical evolution... Bring it on... what great vid.

'Uranus' - The Brunning Sunflower Bues Band. (1969) From the album 'Trackside Blues". Interesting story.
In this song Peter Green (sounds to me like he), starts with the middle then the neck then the bridge and back to the middle...
Peter has a clean to breakup sound is singing and his performance is perfect and very open and clear. I found it helpful.

Great conversation - really informative! I'm up for some Monty's soon - the Underspuns for sure, maybe the Bethnal Greens for another of my guitars . . . thanks for such an enjoyable overview!

Honstly. If I had Gibson money lying around, I'd get a Mayback.

I flipped the magnet in my neck position Guitar Madness 57 Alnico II humbucker, turned the pickup around, and the middle position now sounds just like that.

Killer pickups! Put them in my 2022 Murphy lab heavy relic LP! The local guitar shop has a couple of Peter Green fanatics and they were skeptical at first but blown away after we installed them. Yeah their pricey but worth every penny. Great work!!!!

Peter didn’t use the out of phase sound on Albatross!

If using a term like "most", then should probably compare to more than a single item. Bare Knuckle (also UK) and Jonesy Blues (US) offer hand-wound PG pups. Would be interesting to hear their takes on what makes a PG sound and to invlude them in the mix. Having said this I am a big fan of this show. Great musicians critically comparing instruments. It has aided my shopping. Thanks

Peter green pull down top part of pickups to reduce the bass. You can see it in live videos

Just play the damn guitar already...
good grief

peeeeder green

But the Monty' pickups are really AMAZING. Kudos....

Why Epiphone Les Paul's pickups use to be so honky and mid focused? In mine I had to change them for 59 Seymour Duncan's and the change was dramatic. Cleaner and with more treble and bass than the usual we heard around there...And in the middle position, they are really VERY good...

Ask Monty what bridge pickup he put into Dan's (TPS) Red Telecaster...

Get Dave Simpson back on to give them a Blast 💥😆🙏❤️🌞⭐️👍🏻

In the words of Rob Chapman i must say it sounds like a castrated Les Paul 😛

I'll comment every time I see it: tobacco burst is the best LP color.

The most most most mostes of the most most faithful Peter green starting to sound like Gibson on there les Paul’s

Love your channel bought stuff online from the shop but captain could have learned some Peter green licks for the demo :/

I didn’t hear the signature quacky out of phase sound once

Can make a Pickup based on Bernie Marsden " The Beast" Les Paul.

This guy makes some nice pickups…..

I really like Pete’s R9…very toneful open airy