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Firemaple is a knockoff of JetBoil or is it the other way around?
ОтветитьI have found with Hex the more you used the more heat thus a quicker boil.
A substitute using the same stand is petroleum jelly (Vaseline) soaked cotton wool balls.
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Yes, that's exactly how it is. I confirm about 3 stoves. Great video, lots of information here 👍
ОтветитьIf you’re trying to be stealthy, that first gasifier stove is NOT a good choice. Either a Dakota hole fire - or way better yet- an alcohol stove. I would not be concerned with boil times if being stealthy is critical. That is like worrying about the ants in the middle of an elephant stampede.
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I believe it's worth noting that all of the current Firebox models will support use of Trangia or alcohol burner. You can also use solid fuel tablets. Some of them may require an accessory add on to do so. My Firebox Nano will boil a liter of water in under 10 minutes with wood and still have burn time left, if I load it right. Steve has a bunch of videos on You Tube showing the different methods for loading your Firebox stove. Great Video! Thanks for sharing.........
ОтветитьNice video but you forgot to mention one advantage of the wood gas stove: more efficient and less smoke than a traditional fire box. 😊 In addition I wouldn’t suggest to heat tuna in its can, cans release nasty toxins from the inner coating…
ОтветитьOne thing I've noticed about wood gas stove is that a good gust of wind can blow out the flame , and you are left with a smoke signalling device , can also be challenging to get flame going again
ОтветитьDiameter of pot makes a difference too. Smaller quicker boil. I boiled 400ml on a hex using fire dragon no wind 7 minutes
Ответитьif your worried about flames being seen, pack a stainless or titanium flat pack wind guard that's high enough to be higher than the stove. might need 2
Ответитьwhy would one need to stealth camp? What is the point? Can someone explain to me?
ОтветитьDakota fire hole is the lightest ,Swiss volcano includes a water carrier,love my old pocket rocket
ОтветитьAs an europeaan I absolutely recommend trangia stoves.
ОтветитьNever found any problems with my old issued hexi stove or the firedragon one.
ОтветитьWho are you hiding from?
And who cares about just boiling water!?
Junior littlbug for me. Works as a wood stove or windshield for meths burner. Very light too, about 170 grams including bag. I would like to try a gasifier stove but they all seem to be relatively heavy and not as flexible.
ОтветитьDoes anyone actually care whether they heat up their water in 5 minutes or 3, when they're out in the woods?
ОтветитьTrue stealth is cold foods
Pack your wrappers out. Recycle.
Excellent video, highlighting the best options. All have their pros & cons. I like to combine the trangia with the firebox. The firebox has a special configuration where you can use the trangia in it. This gives me the choice of creating an easy, fast and stealthy fire with the trangia, or use the infinite resources of wood, depending on the situation.
ОтветитьIt changes radically for solid fuel when you use a windscreen.
ОтветитьExcellently presented....... simple concise and to the point 🙂
ОтветитьIs this an excuse to watch you cook 5 meals or is this just talk about stoves?
ОтветитьHe amine is too toxic, don't use it ever
ОтветитьThanks a lot for the presentation and evaluation. I very much like the way you present the facts. Since I got a bushy 500m² piece of land for use I am also interested in ways to shape this land for my feathered friends. I got the tip of you how to lay mainly cut hazels for creating a hedge. I will try this - thanks for this also. Take care. 😊 Ralf
ОтветитьWould be interesting to also do a time to boil time comparison but start timing from the unpacking of the stove.
ОтветитьThose alcohol based tablets are kind of lame. I tried them only once &gave up. They don't burn hot enough, they turn into a puddle & they're expensive. Hexamine burns at 1300 degrees & if you don't use an entire tablet you can blow it out & save it. I really like the esbit system for emergency use. Also, with any kind of wind screen it has never taken me even close to 10 minutes to boil a pint of water.
ОтветитьSo, we used nothing but hexi stoves (we called them a "kocher") in basic training and they were brilliant; cooks water quick enough to enjoy a cuppa during a quick 10-minute break (I had water always boil in around 5mins) and they're small enough to warm up a pup tent😁
ОтветитьThank you 🌲🙏🌲
Ответитьis stealth camping like some weird sport or something
ОтветитьYour awesome and awesome video
ОтветитьGas isn't the one for me ,too expensive, when it's gone it's gone ,looking at a small wood burner instead already have a load of wood ,I'm going make one out of a metal mop bucket ,hope it works
ОтветитьFirebox is the best way to go. You don't need any fuel, you have an almost endless supply of branches in the forest which is a heavy advantage! Combine it with a Dakota Firehole and enjoy.
Ответитьthanks for sharing this👍
ОтветитьI really like this channel, however, this video isn't that good. Why? First, because NO camping stove is stealth. The only really stealth stove isn't a.... stove. It's what we call a Dakota fire.
Second, the first stove Silverfire Scout is heavy, too bulky, and has way too many components. The best stove in that class, is the famous Bushbuddy made in Alaska by a small company.
Third, there is actually a Titanium version of the Firebox 5 inches. And this, since many years. The stainless steel version is 907g (1.207kg if the combo version) and the Titanium one is 496g (822g if the combo version).
Fourth, the BCB kit is less visible, but it'll be like a star in the sky at night. Also, you have to be really careful with this fuel since the flame is barely visible during the day. More than one burned themselves or started an unwanted fire because of that. So be careful if you go for that system. It also take ages to cook/boil (as demonstrated in the video) and you need to carry fuel , where you don't have to when using a twig stove. So less weight and cost less to use a twig stove.
The HEXI stove is just a knock-off of the NESBIT. But it works equally well. So buy whatever is the cheapest, it'll perfom the same (bad). There's a major problem with those tablets: it STINKS even when not lit.
Other than that, the editing and narration are amazing, just like always!
I have a stove similar to the silver fire scout. The most efficient fire for the stove is similar to a top down fire. In short fill the stove up with twigs, add the tender and ignition at the top and let the stove burn. I can get a 1 hour worth of fire and 1 hour worth of coals out of the stove with this method.
The method you used was the constant feed method, which as the name suggest you need to feed the stove constantly.
I’m stunned you didn’t include the Trail Designs Ti-tri sidewinder system. Not only is it super lightweight (it’s titanium) but it’s based on the caldera cone design, so it almost completely hides its flame.
ОтветитьFor backpacking/camping - Pocket Rocket 2 w/ a titanium pot large enough to nest the unit and canister. Obscenely light. There's a reason it's the choice of many thru backpackers out for weeks or months at a time. If you're into bushcraft, survival, or prepping.....Always go with a wood burner. Your canister will run out, burnable resources won't.
ОтветитьThe trangia stove will fit inside the wood gasifier stove making it two stoves instead of just a wood burning stove. That model did not come with a solid fuel plate so you cannot burn one inside. I use a meetsu stove that has a solid fuel plate but added a spirit burner as well. This way I can use the three options combined in one stove. And it acts like the perfect wind block for concentrating heat towards the top except for the solid fuel. You have to invert the burner chamber to raise it higher, but pretty much boils about the same time you tested yours. You might want to find a burner plate to add to the stove and using your trangia…, maybe not the big version but one will fit inside and all can be stored when collapsed. So the options are then combined for stealth and warmth depending on the situation to avoid bad people.
SEMPER FI
Hexi for the size. I use an alcohol Puck Stove rather than Dragon Fuel. Seems a bit quicker to reach a boil.
Other than that, for warmth and cooking/boiling water on an overnighter, I use my Ti Bushbox XL. I also have a Lixada folding stove (£19.00) and a Wild Camping International Titanium twig stove too which are both amazing and you can use an alcohol puck stove in them.
Best for stealth camping? No. Way to loud. Esbit for stealth camping. (Hexi)
ОтветитьYou put the firemaple as expensive in disadvantages while the BPS system and the firebox cost more than most all fire maples but didn’t mention them as expensive and they’re $100 each. Can get a firemaple x2 for $69.
ОтветитьBoth of my FireBox stoves work well with the Trangia burner and Hexamine solid fuel. They are made for these adaptations. The tiny Nano is pretty light weight while still being bulletproof. Great video as usual.
Ответитьthe firebox nano is my preferred stove, I use it with twigs and sticks, a trangia burner or a gas canister depending on the circumstances.
ОтветитьIf you’re concerned about stealth , why not us a camouflage tarp to create a wall around most of your fire? Yes, smoke could be an issue during the day, but the firebox doesn’t emit that much smoke.
ОтветитьKelly kettle with a hobbo stove.
ОтветитьMy son and I used one of these when his scout troop went to Philmont here in the states.
ОтветитьFor the most discreet, a Dakota fire hole is best
ОтветитьHey Mike!
My name is Dominic and I'm 11 years old. I really enjoy watching your bushcraft videos! You were kind of like an inspiration for me. In my woods,
I have created what I call 7 Acres. It is a village of forts. So far I have built four freestanding forts, three lean to's, and two a- frames. I also just built my first Fire with flint and steel!
I would really appriciate a response and some more bushcraft tips.
- Dominic
Loved this episode!
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