Why I no longer use 464 Soy

I have this soy wax and I am thinking about changing it for kerasoy or for coconut wax, because my wax when pouring the consistency is grainy

I needed to hear this because I thought I was crazy. I was about to close my business!

I would like to know what kind of deco is on top of your mistletoe candle wax? It is so pretty. I have been tempted to try cut glass, will that be okay to use to sprinkle a little on the top?

I have been making candles since 2005. I strictly make them for myself, and periodically give them away. I am always testing new things and am currently playing with 4636 and 6006. I still play with my original blended wax, 415 and beeswax. Sometimes I add a little coconut oil in it. But the 415 and beeswax has always given me a nice soy candle with smooth tops and good throw.

Did you ever try Virginia candle supply? I actually use their 464 for wax melts! I mix with a little palm blend. Get phenomenal results.

Hi Allen, thanks so much for sharing your experience honestly! Not sure of you've answered this question before, but have you tried using freedom soy wax, because i heard it's comparable to gw464. can it also be blended it with beeswax?

Thank you for the honesty of saying that is not realistic to test every scent in you candle line every time you make candles! So true!

Hi im planning om getting 444 soy, wpuld you recommend it?

For candles per 1lb of wax, I have been using 464 at 10 0z. And glass palm at 6 oz. For a pound of wax

Hi Allen, I am using your blend. My husband is a beekeeper and we have an abundance of beeswax. The blend helps me tie in with our hive products. I have had a few issues with hot throw recently. What soy do you recommend to try in its place of the blend? Thank you 😍

Finally someone that is using common sense. I find it so costly to have to constantly test a dozen candles EVERY time. If something works I want to have fun making them over again without assuming future problems and wasting wax, wicks and vessels every time. I agree here and there. Everyone who constantly says test test test ... You scared me enough that I didnt want to even try. Thank you.

I thought you were going to say you switched to soy 10. 😂😂😂

I wonder why you wouldnt just use coconut soy wax instead of blending your own?

Congratulations on your sales up. May God continue to bless your business ❤

Hi Alan - curious about your experience with GB 454?

Thank you for sharing your experience. Initially, I believed the issue lied with me, but you accurately pinpointed it. The 464 wax lacks consistency 🫢 as I found myself continuously testing whenever I crafted a candle. I mistakenly attributed the problem to the fragrance oil (FO). Interestingly, even when using the same fragrance oil for different batches, the resulting candles varied in terms of the strength of their hot throw.

Would love you to do a review on Natures gardens joy wax it's a mix basket 🧺 of reviews ! ❤

I believe if 464 Soy Wax didn't have soy additives like the 444 Soy Wax excludes, you would get better results dependent upon your method. Also, the wood wicks are also inconsistent. I have had cotton wicks fail, wood wicks fail, it really depends on the batch and the source they manufactured from.

I wonder what happened. AAK acquired the company over 10 years ago. I guess like everything else companies sourced the ingredients from a cheaper manufacturer. Btw I love science as well. I’m that person the works in the college science labs running around telling everyone to put their goggles on. 😂 well the students in the core science classes anyway.

I just found your 464 and beeswax recipe and now I'm here lol dang

I tried your formual but didnt realize until after it was made that i used pure beeswax and regular cooking coconut oil. I am not sure if this changes it alot. I checked the links and noticed you used refined beeswax and some other kind of coconut oil.

Slowly switching to C3. Found the cold and hot throw is fantastic plus 12 hour cure time is a bounce is a major bounce in Crunch. Testing, wicking, and replacing one scent at time so I don't get overwhelmed.

Hey Allen I wanna try and make a candle just for my home but don’t have the money to keep playing with wax’s but what one would you say to try for a beginner

I've given up 464 as well after 2 years. currently seeking my perfect wax. I tried mixing 464 with another wax and the results looked amazing however when I went to burn it, there was this weird build up in the center of the candle surrounding the wick. looked exactly like cottage cheese. once the candle cooled the smooth wax would form around the edges of the candle and the cottage cheese would form surrounding the wick. it literally appeared as of the two separated.. but the initial pour was smooth and fantastic...

Allen, first I just want to say I LOVE your channel, you are so open and honest and your reviews are incredibly intuitive and insightful. I do have a question however, can you please describe specifically some of the inconsistencies you're experiencing with 464? I'm new to candlemaking and I'm wondering if some of the occasional issues I'm having are me, or the wax. Thank you!

hey allen so i started to use american soy bead wax. try it out

I was obsessively waiting for this video after I saw your post about not using it anymore! That opening statement did not disappoint! I was like "ohhhh we getting the tea today!" 😆🍵🐸

FREEDOM SOY WAX ❤

I did use your wax blend and I like it

Thank you for this!!!

I use 464, but you definitely have to mix it with another wax. I mix with coconut soy 454.

Hello Allen , loved your video, Ty for info. I’m trying rite now joy wax from natures garden it works really great and ht is good. Just in case you want to try it. Love you

I did have issues with 464 and ended up switching because of continuing to use additives and then I was like - wait, I can do better.

Can’t wait for the wax testing videos! I got a 5lbs of #7 from 16/17 and that was great, but the shipping to the east coast is too much.

I use several waxes: Soy 10, Coconut 83 blended with 487, Maksey’s Virgin Coconut Soy. My favorite is coconut 83 blend.

I love ceda serica! I’ve tested other waxes but I always go back to coconut apricot wax.

The intro!!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂

Im just curious with 464 at what temperature were you adding the fragrance? and yes Im still watching your video so maybe you said it. I have heard hardcore 464 users say to put the fragrance in at a little below 160 bc at 180 ish the fragrance is burning off.

What are your thoughts on soy 10 when u tested?

My favorite wax is the Luxe Soy from Sozo. I have been using it for a little over a year. I get smooth tops and almost no frosting, so far. I love your videos and want to thank you for making them. They are truly helpful.

I’m surprised it took u this long to realize that 464 if pure trashhhh 😂

Thanks!

I’m so glad you did this video! I keep trying to make 464 work for me but I’ve had the same inconsistency issues for a while now. I just make candles for friends and family but I want them to be as good as I can make them. I’ve learned so much from you ! Love your videos! Personally, I use #7, #3 and coco apricot crème with great results!❤

Hi Allen I've been using the B/W brand (Blended Wax) from Aztec, so far I like it

Wow I'm shocked! I don't make the volume you do but 464 has been very consistent with me . I get mine from Candle Science... I've also used Ceda Serica from Midwest and that is very nice and also consitent but $$

You are so beautiful ❤

Hi Allen, just wondering so which soy wax you are replacing 464 soy with? Also if you are considering Soybliss or Makesy's soy wax to replace the 464, what is your opinion on the paraffin content they have? I try to stay away from anything paraffin, even if they say "food-grade" which is just a marketing term anyways, it's still not natural. Thanks!

Soy bliss is from 16/17 right ?

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