Hope Pro5 vs DT Swiss 350 (240 exp)

You are spot on, Hopes are great if you replace the bearings every 4 months otherwise you will be walking out

Still, these hubs have a lot of resistance because of ratchet mechanism. I'd like to get a hub from Onyx or Box Components. No sound, almost no resistance, almost zero degrees of engagement.

Excellent mechanic with solid info. DT Swiss are bombproof with replacement bearings available everywhere.

Don’t see how dt is any harder to maintain. You need a $10 tool and a vice to remove the inner drive ring for a full bearing service, but you can use skf fag or nsk bearings which are far better quality than enduro

I'm only using DT hubs. Never had to replace even a bearing. Absolutely bulletproof. Great products.

Years( decades ) ago had set wheels with grease port s the Engineer in me loved idea just remembered had pedals with the I would like the hubs again not pedal as the pedals of today are excellent what’s your fave pedals I ve stopped using Spd gone to flat mtb on my road bike have help my old knees climbing Devon s hills

thank you for the video 👍

Have to say, this vid made me appreciate my XT cup and cone hubs more.

the 350 with non stainless bearings last so long and are so cheap that I don't see any reason to buy the 240. But I rode Hope rs4 for 17k and still have some hope pro4 and they work very well. the rs4 got sold and the pro4 is just getting relaced to new rims for the third time.
in my experience the hope needs less service. try to clean the ratched rings and pawls and go ride. check the grease after few rides and the hope is still red and clean but the dt is grey and dirty. so the green hope seal is amazing!

After running hopes for years (1996 was my first one) my pro 5 has driven me mad. Even with fortnightly maintenance it still slips and cracks on the freehub.

I’ve just ordered a set of reserve alloy wheels with the dt units.

Hopes were always so robust. It seems they have gone for engagement over all with these new ones. Not here for it.

Well i done 4k miles on pro 4 hubs still perfect from outside no play no wobble

I could waste money on ratchet gun that will fail or just use a breaker bar. That will last a lifetime.

I've had pro 3 from 2004 till 2023 brilliant hub. Only changed the bearings. It went through a decade plus of Norfolk winters and the previous decade in Oxfordshire.

I'm building a new wheelset that I would use for ironman 70.3 next year and local fun crit races. Would you recommend Dt Swiss 350 or 240 hubs and should I go with 36t or 54t?

on emtb it seems only the new Hope Pro 5 e-bike if you want a bit more engagement. Just motor is self has so much slack that with a 21 or 24 ratchet the engagment is just awfull. Hope pro 5 e-bike got 54 vs normal 108.

The last time I experienced kickback the seat tube & chainstays on my Norco hardtail were caving in...
As a eastern canadian hope hubs point of sale and service are almost a mirage. Too bad since my son watched Sam Pilgrim he absolutely wants hope hubs 😅

bro got the f1 tyre

I don't understand engagement. With respect to the Hope Hub for instance, how can it have 108 points of engagement if it only has 6 pawls? With 6 pawls, wouldn't that mean a maximum of 6 pawls could engage at any one time, resulting in 6 (not 108) points of engagement?

Insightful and invaluable.

A DT fanboy right here. The bearings last forever so a full strip down is hardly ever necessary. 54t (6 degrees of engagement) is all you need IMO, any less and whether you feel kickback or not, you are compromising the function of the rear suspension. I have 8 sets of wheels, running a mix of 350 & 240 across 5 bikes and hot swap them out depending on the conditions and type of ride I'm doing. dropping the free hub off and cleaning takes seconds and is a rare necessity.

Looks wise hope always takes the win

Mate, thanks for the excellent comparison. I am very interested in these new DT 350 road hubs. Can I ask what are the bearings used for both the front and rear hubs please? I can't find any information on them apart for 6902 as a spare on the manufacturer's site

I have a dt swiss 350 that was installed on a set of 26 inch sun single 32 spokes that I have used for over 25 thousand miles going across the US from Vancouver WA to Portland Maine and down to NYC and had no issues, same hubs have ridden from San Francisco to Mexico and also from Maine to Florida in all kinds of weather and no issues. Those other hubs look nice but I will stay with the Swiss which is also a nice cheese on a sandwich.

Interesting. My pro 4 has a rubber seal that goes on before the end cap on the non drive side...hopes sealing is bad, especially the freehubs. I'm lucky to get a season before they get notchy.

On my third set of Hopes (Pro II, Pro II Evo, Pro 4) and never did anything for maintenance. All of them are still in use and are running perfectly.

It’s personal preference, I have always ridden Hope hubs and they have never let me down so I’ll stay with them but always good to know what else is out there 👍

Good Day. What spoke length/nipples did you use for the Hope pro 5/DT Swiss EX511 build. Thank You! Cant seem to find proper hub spec dimensions anywhere.

Um, those are the old and discontinued 350s.

Skf, Fag, NTN are aftermarket bearings?! 😲🤔

Great demonstration, thank you. However DT Swiss all the way, always. DT Swiss has kept the old tradition of high end, long lasting manufacturing of products no matter what, unlike others that purposely design their products so it would have controlled life span and durability. DT Swiss from past and still today, Shimano from past are excellent examples of my point. Hope and others don not really need to impress buyers the country of origin when their products lack of durability, instead should try to improve their long lastingness as well as design. I found you a man of honor with your words and review these products very very honest and beautifully. I have great respect for you.

Do DT have different colour hubs😊❤

So its Bontrager rapid drive 108 hub 10 years later😮

I’ve still a pair of hope pro 2 evo wheels never had any issue with rear axle bearings even on pro4. Must not ride hard enough

Great Video i was deciding between the Dt and Hope and ended up going with XTR just for the silence, And you keep them running well for me so no maintenance 😛

I've got a set of Hope 20five wheels with Pro 4 hubs - ZERO issues. Beautiful sounding. Stable and reliable. Big props for European manufacturing, something I highly value.

the primary issue for a mountain bike is how well the hub/freehub is sealed..........not degrees of engagement. If they stay clean despite riding in mud and water etc, they need very little maintenance. I use DT Swiss 350 hybrid on both my EMTBS. I strip them occasionally because I feel I should but they never need anything more than a wipe over and some fresh "special " grease. No way i want a poorly sealed hub using pawls!!

Hydra 🔥

You can always upgrade the DT to 64 engagement points.

Nice to see someone not being a paid actor, as i see it these days most blogs and yt channels just get some stuff free take like 2 laps and state their great opinion on the internet, not even considering manitnance, easyness of service and availability of stuff like bearings. Nice and honest video Man i’ll go for swiss

Nice review mate. Appreciate the unbiased and knowledgeable review of these components. Im a bit disapponted with Hope Pro 5. Seems like it is not as "weatherproof" as some have claimed.

I chose the dt350 over the hopes simply because dt swiss parts are so much easier to get in SEA

Hope all day long been using them since the pro 2, my pro4 hasnt been serviced for 3 years and still perfect in the worst uk conditions. Defo going for the pro5 as i will benefit a lot from the increased engagement

im just about to build my first wheel and have a pro 5 enroute. i understand spoke length but what gauge spoke is best to use on 2.6 holes at hub? i was thinking 14, but need you advice...thanks rusty

Excellent summary. I agree that Hopes generally need more servicing (Pro2, Pro2EVO and 4) but they are easy to fully strip and replace all the bearings. DT last longer between services but are a more involved job. Hopes are also very good for spares and end caps and moving between bikes, even converting non-boost to boost.

Full tool kit and DT hubs on everything I could ,with road being dura ace hubs. Both designed to last. DT also have the lowest temperature rating for fat bike hubs. This is a real consideration as I ride below -20 a bit during races

got hope pro 4 and dt swiss 350, maintenance wise, 350 is better, its hard to find replacement bearings for hope..using 60t aftermarket ratchet on my 350 as the 54t original ratchet is expensive.

got 350 hubs on all 3 of my mtbs, can't go wrong

I’ve got a DT Swiss 350 rear hub. Once a year I go only as far as the lockring removal to expose the bearings’ seals bc the bearings are in great shape. I lift the seals, flush bearings and degrease/repackage all wo removing the axle. My only worry is that I’m getting degreaser between the axle and lower bearing face. Is this ok given that the axle receives leftover melted grease until I replace bearings?

Just ordered a set of pro 5s !