Checkpoint VS Fortinet!

This video was based on the 2018 NSS Labs Report. A viewer has alerted me that the check point device suffered a bug that caused it to fail miserably in the security effectiveness testing. I will release a new video once I am able to get my hands on a 2020 NSS labs and Gartner report. Remember ladies and gents, always do your own discovery and research before purchasing anything. Even if the Fortinet is the best decision, you need to come to those terms yourself based on facts you are able to gather.

I used to be checkpoint but now moving to fortigate. Pricing and support is ridiculous now.

Yeah until then you just let your video mislead everyone. Good job man, good job

At least checkpoint doesn’t have conserve mode issues that fortigate notorious with

You should speak for yourself, don’t infiltrate people’s interest

Brou, it seems you were able to issue only theses, where are the facts and arguments?

Dude, I like Forti and I've worked with Check Point and Fortigate firewalls for over 10 years. It's not just a matter of price. It's the quality of the development of the whole solution what takes the price up to 13usd per mb as you said. So as an honest recommendation, next time, instead of doing some weird faces and making pauses while talking/dramatizing about how awful and out of the picture a brand is, try to excel on the content of the video so it's informative for thousands of people watching you and tell the complete whole story! It's more than a price to performance comparison. Just a few ones.. How about vulnerabilities detected on each platform over the past years? I think that chapter was missing, how about the response times for those vulnerabilities? Let's not talk about that one either! But just don't forget that the main task of a firewall is to secure your internal network and protect it from external threats.
I'm not a Check Point employee, nor check enthusiast.. in fact, I've been using Forti at home since FGT??Cs (currently FGT60E). I like your channel man and I use to watch your content every time I have to quickly refresh something in Forti, but like others said, Forti is great for SMB.

From what I see Checkpoint only have market share from historical installed bases, these bases have such a lot of it it would be a massive cost to move away. Checkpoint were the market leader for a long time, before Fortinet/Palo were on the scene it was Checkpoint and Cisco with a few others picking up the pieces. Regarding support, Checkpoint use to be good but software is so buggy now unless your ticket is with Israel the level of knowledge is poor.

Sounds like a sales video. Came in with an open mind and left at the beginning laughing at how much bias there was.

it's Check Point : )

Fortinet is good for small business. Checkpoint and Palo are the big boys. Go back to your sandbox Forti

I worked with several firewalls, but most of the time I work with Check Point and Fortinet because I am an expert on both.
Fortinet is much better for campus network the web and ssl filter system is much better.
Check Point is better for data center network, the IPS and geoprotection modules are superior to Fortinet.
The open server platform is very good.
Now when you need to troubleshoot you cannot compare a Check Point to Fortinet. I often do not find the logs I need in Fortigate or FortiAnalyser.
Check Point support is superior, but Fortinet's documentation with the cookbook is superb.
In cost benefit, nothing compares to Fortinet.

Great channel. Love your candid perspectives. Much appreciated. Is the 2020 NSS Labs firewall report out yet? Have you heard anything? Thx amigo!

Also, why didn't you used the NGFW 2019 report (again you should use the BPS report, but in case you still want to use a basic report, why didn't you used 2019 if this is a 2020 video?) in 2019 NGFW Check Point had a Security Effectiveness of 97.4% and fortinet just 93%. You are making a Fotinet vs Check Point comparison and taking as reference a basic and old report where check point doesn't looks good? very convenient.

Why don't you use a real test like BPS? NGFW is to basic and today none deploys just a NGFW but a more advanced device that includes prevention against know and unknown threats.

How about Fortinet vs Watchguard? Can you make a quick video? Thanks!

What i hate mostly about Check Point, is that you have to log into the devices to create static routes. Dunno if it's still the case, but i used to do this double on a HA configuration.

someone could get this NSS Labs Reports on products evaluated ? i m interested about those on Fortinet, Palo Alto and Checkpoint

I would run Linksys before choosing Checkpoint......... ugh bah......

I've worked with Checkpoint, Cisco, Juniper and Fortinet. I must say after only working in the CLI with ASA's it was a learning curve with Fortinet. The fact you don't have to pay for those VPN licenses with FortiGate sold me!! Plus I've learned to use the GUI with FG, so I give the lead to FG.

You need to do a video on your opinion of Sonicwall and Sophos ;-)

Love that T-shirt! Did you make it yourself?

oh boy, my beloved Check Point colleagues ain't gonna like this

Can you please share your sources about security effectiveness rating? The NSS Labs report for 2019 I found rates Fortinet with 93% security effectiveness, whereas Checkpoint is rated with 97.4%. Also, you are right about your review being biased but I don't want to start debating which vendor is better because I know each one is different. I just want to shed some light upon your presented data. P.S. I deploy appliances from both vendors ;)
Edit: you forgot to mention the wide security vulnerabilities Fortinet is exposing its customers to, not to mention how long it takes to get the patches for them. Also, when you present that huge price gap between them, are you referring to list prices? Because if so, then you are not doing the right comparison. CP has a different business model than Fortinet, but at the end of the day, I had similar pricing quotes from both vendors. It all comes down to the deal you're making.

Thanks Mike.

I love Checkpoint.I've used the 5200,5600 and 5800 models and the old 2900.

Hey, how did you get your fortinet training?not related to video though!

😂Checkpoint down checkpoint down!!! We have checkpoint down!!! 🤣
Cisco vs fortinet should definitely be next!!!

I'm reluctant to blindly trust the NSS ratings, especially because Fortinet only seems to reference them in regards to external ratings. Makes me weary to only look at that rating.

P.S. Go Fortinet!