How to listen to contemporary classical music | Ksenia Anufrieva | TEDxKulibinPark

the thing with bottles is just sound, the thing with the audience is called a happening. most of so called new music could easily be done by AI and probably better.

Wow the comments did not pass the test 😂

It’s more just sound effects to me .. I can’t even compare it to music.. 🤷‍♂️

Academic music takes itself too seriously and is obsolete: not because it is a genre (which is an awful barrier concept that is the residual of an old millenium where human inequality was widely endorsed), but because it is an audience, the audience of academia. There is definitively a barrier between entitlement and not-entitlement, not to mention the old ideas of the pre-internet world when knowledge was pretty much an exclusive niche for the affluent. So far, since the birth of mass production and technological mass production, academic music attempted desperately to widen the gap with the "proletarian" audience that had existed since countless centuries. When literacy and technological advancement and music affordability became widespread, academic music basically sought to keep this distance simply by "reducing" its "accessibility" in a desperate attempt at preserving its snob status, therefore the perceived "weirdness" of much vanguarde, but do not get fooled: most avantgarde is as uninspired as the commercial music heard outside the academia, and often penned and produced by major graduates from the most prestigious colleges around the world, in a sublime act of hypocrisy.
Moreover, most of this academic snobbery is pretty much confined to Europe: a lot of world traditions (possibly, most world traditions) do not even have "composers" to begin with, even though it is art music.
Therefore, it is not a surprise that a lot of the current contemporary "art" world is overstressing "inclusivity" themes to dispel the notion of undemocraticness (eg: lots of music seminars and events are unreasonably priced, the "art world" is NOT open to anyone), but do not get fooled, pretty much all high culture is desperately seeking to maintain its hierarchy by alienating its potential fans, self-enclosing in a gerontocratic veil of "superiority". The avantgarde is long dead: future generations, rather than "understanding it", will understand it as a precise historical period where composers were either geniouses alienated by the horrors of WW2 seeking to distance itself from the hipocrisy of the music world (eg: Stockhausen) or, in the worst of cases, were "second-wave" pretentious academics following those footsteps without quite feeling from inside that kind of music of their predecessors.
Most contemporary music, whether academic or not, is insincere in that very aspect.
One for all: most musical revolutions of the last century, from the record to noise to sound masses and so forth, were born OUTSIDE the academia, or were even anti-academic and possibly obstacled. Such a far cry from the contemporary art scene where every rehearsal is a work of genious art as long as it is entitled by itself and its circuit to be so. Early modernists were not even concerned with that and did not expect that.
The more academia reinforce the fact that vitality can come out only of its entitled niche or from corporational tyranny the more we are far from witnessing art. The facts that academia refuses to recognize un-academic music as art and the fact that a lot of conservatory graduates still think of the Beatles as art is the demonstration of how far is all of that stuff from being art. At most, it is business.

i studied this s*** because i love to compose. no one in the class could compose, and certainly not the professor. and they didnt know how to play jazz

Well, that was awkward...

Good music doesn't need a "strategy to listen" to.

I did not understand a singel thing, I guess im uncultured

That cello thing was awful

It is difficult to say where exactly something transitions from being a musical performance and sound-based performance art. But I suspect that there is a great deal of contemporary classical music that doesn't make one wonder whether or not they're listening to music. Consider Arvo Part's 4th symphony ("Los Angeles"), which certainly doesn't contain much (if any) rhythm or motive or chord progression, and is dramatically different from any of Beethoven or Tchaikovsky's work, but is still unmistakably musical. Surely that is more what we ought to consider "contemporary classical music" and not "modern performance art" like holding cello strings attached to plastic bottles and scratching a bow across them.
Of course, I am not a musicologist. So maybe my perspective is flawed.

in other words, everything but music. I totally see the water jar piece being the equivalent of Beethoven's 9th in 200 years from now . sadness

wow. that was unconvincing.

I came for the 0-3-5

It's easy -- just listen to it. If you like it, great. If you don't, move on.

One more musicologistwho dont understand nothing in music ....

Horrible ideas, woman.

That was awful.

contemporary classical music is just collection of different sounds, mostly annoying sounds.

My mummy says that reminded her of her bizarre experience of hearing Morgen und Abend at the ROH in 2015! I am glad my ears are cloth!

It’s fascinating how scared some people are of new or different things. We see this in contemporary art too. Partly it’s because of the mainstream media of course, always choosing extreme examples and presenting them as if average. If you are open to the idea of any sound potentially being music your life becomes more joyous.

Anyone know where the first song she played on the piano is from?

This is exactly the discussion that I searched for during my train when a thought came to my mind that the classics can't be where that branch of music ended