Bear Island knows no king but the King in the North, whose name is STARK

Jon refusing Stannis made him want his service even more. He saw that Jon had that northern loyality that made it possible for Starks to control such a large kingdom for so long.

Stanas wanted a son like Jon Snow!! He sees potential!!

This scene gives me the chills - perhaps even more now than it did when I first saw it.

As much as i love show Stannis (except for buring shireen but i blame D&D for that, book version would never do that), book Stannis feels a lot more cunning when he's in the North. He liberated and led the attack on Deepwood Motte when it was under Asha Greyjoys occupation to get the Glovers on his side, and Wyman Manderly is probably going to align himself with Stannis. He also didn't kill Mance Rayder, he burned rattleshirt (lord of bones) instead and let Mance infiltrate Winterfell with some wildling women to rescue fake Arya (Jeyne Poole) from the Boltons. He also isn't planning to march on Winterfell because he knows that he can't beat them in a siege with his inferior numbers but he plans to draw them out and use the envoirment to defeat them such as a frozen lake.

After it cut to black, there is a deleted scene where Jon says "I don't want it, you are muh king."

quite the interesting loophole....can basically void your oath by being legitimized? you would think the nights watch would have considered that...but i guess....how often does that happen?

He really should’ve taken this offer.

If jon had accepted this, they would have won against the boltons, jon ruling the north, stannis would have an upper hand in the war to come.

The king who cared ...

Made quite the tempting offer.

"I apologize your grace...northerners can be a bit like the free folk - loyal to their own" - Jon is not just talking about the northerners outside of himself - he is including himself amongst them.

Jon Stark, Lord of Winterfell. daaaaaaaaaaamn. thats what Jon has been dreaming since childhood EVERY FREACKING day. this scene is so epic

"Do you know this wreched girl" I laughed so hard 😅

I never understood why he needs to pledge to Stannis, so he will announce him as Jon Stark and he will no longer be a bastard. He's the fucking King in the North, he could have done this himself this whole time lol

The way Stannis the Mannis says "Jon Stark, Lord of Winterfell" sends shivers

Imagine the rush of affection Jon must have felt for Lyanna in that moment. His famliy's gone and the world thinks they're traitors. He's grieving and feels alone, and probably can't stop thinking about them. And then, suddenly, along comes a reminder that the North remembers them too.

“Do You know this Reched Girl?? Lyana Stark?”😂😂😂✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿

"That amuses you?"

"It does, and I'm tired of pretending it doesn't."

When I first saw this listing on TV guide I thought it was a new game show patterned after musical chairs only using toilets (thrones).

Very underrated scene. Like how pragmatic and to the point Stannis is.

You burned them alive just like Waco and the FBI

I forgot Stannis offered to make Snow a Stark. Manwhat temptation. He always wanted that but still turned it down. Thats honor.

Although is was the beginning of the fall, specially on dialogue quality, Season 5 had its moments

I almost wish he did it.

The thing is, and this goes back to Robb naming Jon his heir, is he not forbidden from taking lands and titles as a sworn brother? He hasn't died yet in this scene, he doesn't have the out he will later on thanks to Thorne and co. Surely even legitimizing him wouldn't work?

he should've done it

Stannis knows to drive a bargain.

Stannis would have made a fine king, he was the best of the bunch.

He'd have burned Jon Snow instead of Shireen...

Everything destroyed by a useless ending by some crackheads

I never wanted it!

I wish they could of teamed up.. ugh

This Jon and Season 7,8 Jon are 2 different persons. In the earlier seasons Jon was much confident and had more dialogues.

Just accept it

Damn it just pisses me off for what they did to stannis. He was the legitimate king and highly respected.

Turned down everything he ever wanted to save an ungrateful world.

Luanda Mormont was 10 years old and stood up to one of the most cold blooded killers in the realm

Uhm... no Jon Snow wouldn't kneel to you, he is Aegon Targaryen the rightful heir of the irone throne, he has more claim to the bloody whole 7 kingdoms than you do.

Tell them that Lyanna is the little girl that told you to fuck off,

These so called kings and queens throw around names like it means nothing!

Jon never wanted anything but he still gets everything..... No one can simply become deserter for nights watch and join wildlings, then again join nights watch and become the lord commander

Based lyanna mormont vs virgin stannis baratheon

The dialogue here was such gold! Miss this game of thrones

I would have liked to see Stannis as the king, he seemed level headed

The writers:
Jon is honourable he won't leave the night's watch.
Also the writers:
My watch has ended.
Still the writers:
We kinda forgot.

Let's face it, they hated Stannis because they did not understand his character at all. So they could not give Jon to help him (because he would have won easily). So they put up this canard and had Jon refuse. Then they later made Jon get out of the vow with a technicality that does not make sense to anyone with a double digit IQ or higher. "It shall not end until my death." Um sweetie, the vow goes "I pledge my life and honour to the Night's watch." Not to mention it is an age-old power of kings to release people from their vows whatsoever they may be.

In the book Jon had a legitimate reason to not become Jon Stark under Stannis. Stannis specifically required Jon to burn the weirwood and the godswood in Winterfell and basically annihilate the Old Gods from the North. No northerner would follow him after that. Even if they were unbelievers, destroying such a central symbol of the North's separateness from the rest of Westeros would not fly. Also in the book Jon was already the Lord Commander when the offer was made. His brothers had chosen him so he could not abandon them now to another contentious election.

Those two morons ruined a great story. Im still pissed about how they wrote it and what they did to GOT

in the book, didnt robb legitimize jon?

I remember wanting Jon to say yes so much at the time, in hindsight he would’ve been killed alongside Stannis’s army if he had.

Stan is should have been king