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Jon refusing Stannis made him want his service even more. He saw that Jon had that northern loyality that made it possible for Starks to control such a large kingdom for so long.
ОтветитьStanas wanted a son like Jon Snow!! He sees potential!!
ОтветитьThis scene gives me the chills - perhaps even more now than it did when I first saw it.
ОтветитьAs much as i love show Stannis (except for buring shireen but i blame D&D for that, book version would never do that), book Stannis feels a lot more cunning when he's in the North. He liberated and led the attack on Deepwood Motte when it was under Asha Greyjoys occupation to get the Glovers on his side, and Wyman Manderly is probably going to align himself with Stannis. He also didn't kill Mance Rayder, he burned rattleshirt (lord of bones) instead and let Mance infiltrate Winterfell with some wildling women to rescue fake Arya (Jeyne Poole) from the Boltons. He also isn't planning to march on Winterfell because he knows that he can't beat them in a siege with his inferior numbers but he plans to draw them out and use the envoirment to defeat them such as a frozen lake.
ОтветитьAfter it cut to black, there is a deleted scene where Jon says "I don't want it, you are muh king."
Ответитьquite the interesting loophole....can basically void your oath by being legitimized? you would think the nights watch would have considered that...but i guess....how often does that happen?
ОтветитьHe really should’ve taken this offer.
ОтветитьIf jon had accepted this, they would have won against the boltons, jon ruling the north, stannis would have an upper hand in the war to come.
ОтветитьThe king who cared ...
ОтветитьMade quite the tempting offer.
Ответить"I apologize your grace...northerners can be a bit like the free folk - loyal to their own" - Jon is not just talking about the northerners outside of himself - he is including himself amongst them.
ОтветитьJon Stark, Lord of Winterfell. daaaaaaaaaaamn. thats what Jon has been dreaming since childhood EVERY FREACKING day. this scene is so epic
Ответить"Do you know this wreched girl" I laughed so hard 😅
ОтветитьI never understood why he needs to pledge to Stannis, so he will announce him as Jon Stark and he will no longer be a bastard. He's the fucking King in the North, he could have done this himself this whole time lol
ОтветитьThe way Stannis the Mannis says "Jon Stark, Lord of Winterfell" sends shivers
ОтветитьImagine the rush of affection Jon must have felt for Lyanna in that moment. His famliy's gone and the world thinks they're traitors. He's grieving and feels alone, and probably can't stop thinking about them. And then, suddenly, along comes a reminder that the North remembers them too.
Ответить“Do You know this Reched Girl?? Lyana Stark?”😂😂😂✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿
Ответить"That amuses you?"
"It does, and I'm tired of pretending it doesn't."
When I first saw this listing on TV guide I thought it was a new game show patterned after musical chairs only using toilets (thrones).
ОтветитьVery underrated scene. Like how pragmatic and to the point Stannis is.
ОтветитьYou burned them alive just like Waco and the FBI
ОтветитьI forgot Stannis offered to make Snow a Stark. Manwhat temptation. He always wanted that but still turned it down. Thats honor.
ОтветитьAlthough is was the beginning of the fall, specially on dialogue quality, Season 5 had its moments
ОтветитьI almost wish he did it.
ОтветитьThe thing is, and this goes back to Robb naming Jon his heir, is he not forbidden from taking lands and titles as a sworn brother? He hasn't died yet in this scene, he doesn't have the out he will later on thanks to Thorne and co. Surely even legitimizing him wouldn't work?
Ответитьhe should've done it
ОтветитьStannis knows to drive a bargain.
ОтветитьStannis would have made a fine king, he was the best of the bunch.
ОтветитьHe'd have burned Jon Snow instead of Shireen...
ОтветитьEverything destroyed by a useless ending by some crackheads
ОтветитьI never wanted it!
ОтветитьI wish they could of teamed up.. ugh
ОтветитьThis Jon and Season 7,8 Jon are 2 different persons. In the earlier seasons Jon was much confident and had more dialogues.
ОтветитьJust accept it
ОтветитьDamn it just pisses me off for what they did to stannis. He was the legitimate king and highly respected.
ОтветитьTurned down everything he ever wanted to save an ungrateful world.
ОтветитьLuanda Mormont was 10 years old and stood up to one of the most cold blooded killers in the realm
ОтветитьUhm... no Jon Snow wouldn't kneel to you, he is Aegon Targaryen the rightful heir of the irone throne, he has more claim to the bloody whole 7 kingdoms than you do.
ОтветитьTell them that Lyanna is the little girl that told you to fuck off,
ОтветитьThese so called kings and queens throw around names like it means nothing!
ОтветитьJon never wanted anything but he still gets everything..... No one can simply become deserter for nights watch and join wildlings, then again join nights watch and become the lord commander
ОтветитьBased lyanna mormont vs virgin stannis baratheon
ОтветитьThe dialogue here was such gold! Miss this game of thrones
ОтветитьI would have liked to see Stannis as the king, he seemed level headed
ОтветитьThe writers:
Jon is honourable he won't leave the night's watch.
Also the writers:
My watch has ended.
Still the writers:
We kinda forgot.
Let's face it, they hated Stannis because they did not understand his character at all. So they could not give Jon to help him (because he would have won easily). So they put up this canard and had Jon refuse. Then they later made Jon get out of the vow with a technicality that does not make sense to anyone with a double digit IQ or higher. "It shall not end until my death." Um sweetie, the vow goes "I pledge my life and honour to the Night's watch." Not to mention it is an age-old power of kings to release people from their vows whatsoever they may be.
In the book Jon had a legitimate reason to not become Jon Stark under Stannis. Stannis specifically required Jon to burn the weirwood and the godswood in Winterfell and basically annihilate the Old Gods from the North. No northerner would follow him after that. Even if they were unbelievers, destroying such a central symbol of the North's separateness from the rest of Westeros would not fly. Also in the book Jon was already the Lord Commander when the offer was made. His brothers had chosen him so he could not abandon them now to another contentious election.
Those two morons ruined a great story. Im still pissed about how they wrote it and what they did to GOT
Ответитьin the book, didnt robb legitimize jon?
ОтветитьI remember wanting Jon to say yes so much at the time, in hindsight he would’ve been killed alongside Stannis’s army if he had.
ОтветитьStan is should have been king
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