Wait, does torque ACTUALLY exist in SnowRunner?

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It has been changed, low- did not do anything like this earlier, the actual best gear was Low+ and High. To get away from the auto-shifting craziness. High would just fly over most things, and Low+ would give controlled speeds in mud and let you kind-of-crawl. The previous iteration of this you would just be standing there, you can find old videos linked on reddit from 2 years ago showing this.
Right now it kind of works, however it's not realistic in any way. Diff-locks do not lock anything and the automatic clutch works like a super super strong traction control - it will not allow you to stall the truck when not in high, and the tires have way too much grip. In real life this truck would do one of; 1. break drivetrain or 2. pull the load or 3. spin all drive tires.

have you ever considered doing multiplayer content?

There is no direct physical dependency between torque and rotation speed. Thus, the faster the rotation, the more torque is simply wrong. The faster something rotates with the same torque, the more power is output.

Funny. Not much played yet, and even less driven off-road, though my impression of lack of realism was directed to the other way. You can do stuff in SR I would not expect to be able to do IRL.

One word for Torque: TUZ!!!

We need the creators to gear this video and start getting on it

You're all ignore the key factor: INERTIA.

Google it. Have fun.

It did at one time. Ill be completely honest though I feel like every truck in the game has somehow become weaker than it was back at launch.

Engine size doesnt really matter

Get a run at it, dude any trucker knows speed plus torque = pully pully lol come on my guy

Yep thats what low gear is for doesn't take a expert to know this lmao 😂

Would be cool if they cooperated with the engine simulator dude. Don't remember what the video was called atm but he seemed to know his way around pretty much all aspects of both physics, chemistry and sound.

huh, the low+, low ,low- is something i'll have to investigate in my own playthrough. i may have been using some of my trucks entirely wrong when loaded to the max.

I know I'm late to commenting on this, but tire size also affects this. Try the same test you used in this video but with smaller tires vs bigger tires. The smaller tires rightfully can apply MORE torque to the ground and will be easier to pull things vs the big tires.

Is this available for iphone or is it a pc game?

Never heard of this before, would love to play it

You should test the High gear. Feels like a power increase. My truck can be shifting into 3rd and immediately bogging down and dropping to 1st, or I can go into High, moving faster than in 3rd, and not get stuck at all. Note that in some trucks this applies to their top gear instead, with High gear being both faster and getting bogged down way more rarely.

if you have much wheel spin, you don't have traction, this game show this beautifuly... low gears allow the wheels to pulse and gain traction.

My biggest problem with this game is two fold- no full manual gear shifting and the traction/friction on paved road surfaces is actually absurd- feels like you are driving on ice even with highway tires on supposedly dry surfaces

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I mean, it's literally done this since the spin tires rebuild that landed the original dev the funds to fully produce and market it... it was literally one of the selling points

This channel has more subtitle options than a Netflix special... Impressive.

One thing that's important to note which I've noticed is: It seems like tire grip (or more accurately, tire grip loss) scales with wheelspeed. When I tested a while ago, Low gear wasn't a shorter gear than 1st, it was just a speed limiter. Because of that, you could just the exact same effect as Low by just mashing the gas pedal on and off in Auto, often letting you go even faster than you would've been able to otherwise.

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So I made a post explaining how there was only 1 low gear and +/- were just ranges of that gear. I explained how it was legacy code copy/pasted from spintyres to mudrunner and mudrunner to snowrunner. I showed how you could go back and test it on the earlier games. It was because of that that + had more torque then did - leading people to think tire spin was key over torque. You video shows that it has finally been recoded so that they are 3 different gears. For some reason, you deleted my post. Why?

Just drive a stock f 750 around
If you're not in low u don't move uphill

never played snow runner, is there only a semi auto? or is there a full manual gearbox?

SnowRunner logic:
Speed: 0, Gas in the floor: Fuel consumption: Gear 1H: 10L/minute Gear LowLow: 23L/minute xD

Didn't realize this was even a question... Torque has been a working mechanic since at least Mudrunner if not the original Spintires

It is terrible. Truly shithouse.


Where is the propper clutch at, engine revs do not work as they should.

It still feels off though. I feel like that truck should get that load rolling at least a little bit up the hill easily in lowest gear. Maybe they need to tweak it more

I noticed that when i barely pressed the throttle in mud or an hill climb it would pull through vs have the throttle maxed out, with very low throttle i can go anywhere i point it

The physics of this game make no sense to me. The truck should struggle when it moves the trailer up the steep hill, not whe it drives over it itself.

Snowrunner physics is like the Cars movies--the more you think about it, the less it makes sense.

Anyway to import the steering wheel settings from Mudrunner to snowrunner, Mudrunner has native wheel support while snow runner does not

BeamNG drive and Snowrunner teams should team up!

You also have even more control over torque/traction when using a controller with trigger for accel with varying amounts of throttle applied unlike a keyboard w key being just an on off switch I can get movement out of a buried truck in low minus just barley activating the trigger that I can not get any movment out of with a keyboard

One thing i feel like you dont understand is the balance between traction, torque and weight distribution. Too much traction will stop the wheels turning. Combine that with weight distribution and the result is that 8x8 works best. It’s physics. Because of this, the tayga 6436 works better with 6x6, rather than 10x10. The 10x10 has way too much traction and weight distribution is very unbalanced. Try it.

I will echo what others have said, realistic torque mechanics are NEW. I did my own very limited testing shortly after release and several times since then and low+ always seemed to do what I expect from low- on steep inclines with heavy loads etc.
I think it's a welcome change!! Glad to see things getting more realistic!

The problem is that the game lacks a realistic relationship between torque, rpm and hp, not to mention tire grip physics (this is where tire size, contact patch & pattern plus weight matters). Hence why the medium trucks often tend to outpull the heavy ones in Snowrunner.

american learns about manual transmissions...

Lmao he learned about lower gears and acts like he invented hot water

did you guys notice a diff lock on front wheels failing to turn at the same time?

No need a hero to investigate into how diff lock works. At this point a am convinced that diff lock only have effect in low gears as in Auto vehicles work as if diff lock is always engaged anyway and even when diff lock is engaged in low, wheels still can rotate at different speeds, which is also stupid. Get your shit together, saber interactive.

Oh..opening America again..

Most of the time you would a truck torque to one side when moving a heavy load maybe that is why alot of people think rhere is no torque in the game

Love your videos, mate. Always good for a thought, and a laugh 💯

I have over 2.5k hours in snowrunner, but know very little about gaming, in general. I do know a bit about cars, and physics.

Torque is an engine specification that varies with RPM and is mainly affected by the rotational mass and geometry of the engine's moving parts (to oversimplify).

Everyone focuses on horsepower, but torque is what you feel, or the net result of what the engine does with that HP. Both are measured by manufacturers at the crank shaft, and do not take into account the parasitic drag of the drivetrain. Maximum engine torque always occurs at a given RPM, and is expressed as xxxHP, producing xxxlb/ftTorque@xxxRPM.

The transmission simply regulates the levels of torque that reach the drive wheels, based on load, and traction. If you see water/mud/snow being pulled over the tire tops, shift down (reducing wheel speed/torque) until you can see the tires at full throttle. You will gain traction and save fuel. 👍

Many factors affect traction, but without it, all the power, torque, and gearing in the world are useless. Tire diameter also affects torque and rolling resistance at the wheel (smaller diameter = more torque/acceleration, but more rolling resistance), while tire width has a greater impact on traction.

For this reason, I almost always run the biggest tires, but spend most my time in the low range, occasionally shifting to H, with the off-road or snowrunner transmissions. 👍

All that said, it probably wouldn't be too difficult to approximate the factory torque curves, which leaves gearing, traction, and rolling resistance as primary variables. 🤔

This is NEW within the last 2 phases. I've done this test MULTIPLE times with vanilla and mod trucks. Trucks have never had torque like this. I was one of the original people to bring this up and put it to the test, basically on day 1. Glad to see they are actually trying to improve the game..... Now all they need to do is fix steering/turning circles/ wheel tracking. Ya know, the whole dog wagging its tail thing when you turn the steering wheel, cause major understeer and weird wheel tracking.